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  • Member since
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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Question On Testors gloss and dullcoat
Posted by Greatmaker on Thursday, March 31, 2016 4:15 PM

Has anyone else noticed that these two seem to change the color of the paint they are sprayed over?  It seems like they darken the colors quite a bit.  I like to use them because to me they are extremely durable and the protect the decals very well.  I tried just using testors acrylic matt clearcoat over decals once and I had some of the decals split and crack. I have tried using the acrylic clearcoat before using the glosscoat but it doesn't seem to make a difference.  I use only Model master acrylic paint.  Future has never worked real well for me.  The only thing I use that for is dipping canopys and covering dials.  Thanks

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:48 PM

I think that all dull coats tend to darken the underling paint, but IMHO the difference is not very noticable. I have used Testors lacquer rattle can dull coat and it worked fine for me. . I have never used the acrylic paint. 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, April 1, 2016 9:21 AM

I have never noticed a change in color when first applied.  A long time ago both products would yellow with age, but they seem to have fixed that problem quite some time ago, and have had no yellowing with either for a long time.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Friday, April 1, 2016 9:44 AM

I haven

Don Stauffer

I have never noticed a change in color when first applied.  A long time ago both products would yellow with age, but they seem to have fixed that problem quite some time ago, and have had no yellowing with either for a long time.

 I haven't noticed any yellowing but to me it seems to darken the paint quite a bit.  I used Russsian armor green on a Japanese Jack and before glosscoat I thought it matched the box cover art very well.  After it looks a lot darker to me

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, April 1, 2016 9:30 PM
Try thinning it with lacquer thinner. Dries quickly too. I still prefer Testors DC as my final Coat. For Decaling, I prefer Alclad gloss. Dries rock hard in hours and the fumes are tolerable. My two pennies.

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Friday, April 1, 2016 9:53 PM

lawdog114
Try thinning it with lacquer thinner. Dries quickly too. I still prefer Testors DC as my final Coat. For Decaling, I prefer Alclad gloss. Dries rock hard in hours and the fumes are tolerable. My two pennies.
 

I'm assuming your decanting the dullcoat and using an airbrush?  I have a tendancy to either get to close or too far away and spray too much with the rattle cans.  Fortuneately I've discovered if it's too bad I can remove most of it with alcohol and re-spray or I can "fix" it by using the matt acrylic clear coat to even out the finish if it't not too bad

 

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  • From: Lancaster, South Carolina
Posted by Devil Dawg on Saturday, April 2, 2016 9:18 PM

lawdog114
Try thinning it with lacquer thinner. Dries quickly too. I still prefer Testors DC as my final Coat. For Decaling, I prefer Alclad gloss. Dries rock hard in hours and the fumes are tolerable. My two pennies.
 

I just started using the Alclad "Gloss Clear Kote", and it is MUCH, MUCH better than Future or Testors' products. Dries very quickly, too.

Devil Dawg

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Posted by seasick on Saturday, April 2, 2016 10:51 PM

I tried Future through my air brush. My kitchen floor never looked better.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, April 3, 2016 12:04 PM

Don Stauffer

I have never noticed a change in color when first applied.  A long time ago both products would yellow with age, but they seem to have fixed that problem quite some time ago, and have had no yellowing with either for a long time.

 

 

I have a couple of bottles that are 20+ years old and they have turned amber in color. I had a couple of older builds where the white base coat slightly yellowed from the flat coat so I hope they took care of that problem.

One Thing I have noticed when using Testors flat acrylic clear over dark colors, it tends to produce a faded/dusty finish specially over black.

As for the old Future, works wonders from making canopies crystal clear, attaching certain pe parts, getting rid of steps on thick decals, and producing a super hard glossy finish ideal for applying decals  and solvent type washes just to name a few uses. So it's not for just floors. We as modelers adapt tools to our need that are meant for other uses around the house. 

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Posted by Greatmaker on Sunday, April 3, 2016 1:10 PM

I've noticed the white dusty look with the flat acrylic clear coat as well. I thought it was operator error.

 

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Posted by panzer948 on Monday, April 4, 2016 4:30 PM

Greatmaker

I've noticed the white dusty look with the flat acrylic clear coat as well. I thought it was operator error.

 

I had the same problem spraying the MM Gloss Acrylic Clear thru my airbrush.  I did come to the same conclusion of operator error (I think I sprayed it at to high a PSI and to close to the model).  However, I haven't used it since to find out for sure.... I actually instead went with the old standy of Model Master/Testors Lacquer based clear products out of a rattle can and the Future Floor Polish stuff. Both worked with no problems.

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Posted by Silver on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:18 AM

you can use alclad gloss which dries but stays a little tacky.Also, you can use non-spar varnish w/ over night drying.What may appear to the eye in changing color is that the product has a tint spar in the mix.Testors is famous for that.Tamiya clear coate do the same in a worse effect.Future works well but also stays tacky.

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