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How to rescribe rivets??

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    April 2010
How to rescribe rivets??
Posted by Theuns on Monday, April 4, 2016 11:23 PM

What tecnique do you use to replace the fine raised rivet detal on 1/32 planes once sanded off with scribed rivet detail?

I don't know if drilling each one would work good enough

Thanx

 

Theuns

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:05 AM

If you want raised rivets, I'd look into the resin ones that are applied like decals.  You cut the required length as a row of rivets. 

Fine Archer and HGW make them.

Or, if you want engraved rivets, the pounce wheel is popular with some.

regards,

Jack

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    April 2010
Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:18 AM

Thanx Jack, I actually want to sand off all the raised rivets with "scribed" rivgets like o n modern kits. The Sabre I am doing would have had flush rivets anyway but they do give a good look detail wize in 32nd scale so I don't want to omit all the rivet detail.

 

Theuns

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:31 AM

A rivet wheel, from Rosie, Radu, or Trumpeter. Also, a needle in a pin vise works, but you may have to go back and drill each hole out a little with a #80 drill bit. 

 

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 9:12 AM

Is this for a natural metal finish?  As I remember looking at painted planes flush rivets are almost invisible.  For NMF I often just use a sharp toothpick to put down dots of flat aluminum to simulate flush rivets.  After dipping end of toothpick in very thin layer of paint, I touch piece of cardboard first to catch any big daub of paint, then can produce about three or four rivets before repeating.

To get an even thin layer of paint for dipping, I shake the bottle, then set cap down upside down on bench and dip into layer of paint remaining in cap.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    December 2002
Posted by 7474 on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:13 AM

I purchased the trumpeter rivet tool and from some of the youtube videos I've watched, you'll get better results after a the primer is applied. I need to practice again once I get into a place I can start building again.

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    April 2010
Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:42 AM

I want to simulate the rivets like on Trumpeter type models.

I do not have access to that wheel scriber here in SA so will have to come up with another way...

I am not yet sure if it would be NMF or some form of camo. If camo I would just leave the reaised detail on as the airframe would not have to be sanded so smooth anyway.

 

But dang a Sabre looks so good in NMF :-)

 

Thanx for the feedback

 

Theuns

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:52 PM

I use this tool (lower center of photo). It inserts directly into your X-acto knof handle. It comes with four different rivet spacings.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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    August 2013
Posted by Putsie on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:41 PM

Hi !

 

Micromart carries a line of HO scale rivet decals that I've used on 1/72.  They might carry an "O" gauge assortment, I just don't remember....you can check them on line.

I cut these to length and then apply just as I would any decal, let dry, cover with matte, then paint as needed.

Someone else mentioned "ponce wheels"  these work nice for flush riviting and the come with different diameter wheels that simulate other sizes/scales.

Finally, you could drill a series of "small holes" along the panel line and then fill the hole with stretched sprue....let it dry completely and then sand......I've never tried this but after the sprue is glued and set you might be able to "round the head" by bringing a hot pin close to the sprue.......like you do when you use sprue for flying wires and need to bring it taught....

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    September 2009
Posted by Cobra 427 on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:57 PM

Here's a train of thought - We did this when we needed rivets back in the day: try using an aluminum, or brass tube the size of your rivets that you need. Sand the edge to a 45* degree angle so that all you'd have to do is mark where you need your rivet - place the tube over it, and turn it SLOWLY so that it will dig slightly into the plastic so that you'll have a small indentation in the shape of a circle. This will make it easier to replicate this effect. If you need to make the tube easier to handle just glue the next size up to it so that you can insert another tube sideways into the smaller ones so that you can make a handle. I did this when I needed a tire valve core extractor, but didn't have the money to (waste/get) one. You can also do this for other rivets in other sizes for multiple projects.

~ Cobra Chris

Maybe a picture of a squirrel playing a harmonica will make you feel better?

 

 

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