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1/48 Hasegawa P-38 J Lightning 20th FG (FINISHED)

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1/48 Hasegawa P-38 J Lightning 20th FG (FINISHED)
Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, June 4, 2016 4:31 AM

I'm going to stay in European Theater mode and build one of my favorites, Der Gableshwantz Teufel, or "fork tailed devil", the P-38 Lightning.  I plan on doing the Hasegawa J in 20th FG Richard Loehnert's "California Cutie" markings.  Loehnert flew 70 combat missions and would claim two Bf-109s on July 7th 1944.  

 

I managed to find an old Superscale sheet with Loehnert's markings.  Wish me luck, they are old..... 

 

The Hasegawa kit is decent (not great), and challenging.  It's an exercise in fitting, sanding, and scribing, but if you take your time it can be dealt with.  Boom alignment can be a problem but I think I solved it on my last P-38 build. Instead of trying to rehash it...please see it in the following thread:

 http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/153830.aspx

 

I plan on going out of the box here (the PE and resin guns are for another project...sorry).   Let's jump in.  I started with the cockpit, which is very basic, but can be painted to look halfway decent.  I did add photoetch seatbelts since the seat is prominently visible. I didn't spend to much time on the dash which is tucked way under a fabric coaming. 

The P-38 is tail heavy and needs some weight in the nose to keep it on its front wheel.  I epoxied some fishing lures up there thusly. It's not pretty but it works.

I got the airframe together.  The worst area is the clamshell fit of the gun bay/cockpit area.  Here I have everything together for a test fit.  Not too shabby.  I will sand the booms and pod separately before they are joined.  It's easier.  Almost time to start sanding......Super Angry

   

That's were I'm at so far......not bad for a night's work.  

 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by GAF on Saturday, June 4, 2016 5:51 AM

Slapping another one together, eh?  Surprise

Not only am I impressed by the attention to detail of your builds, but you're also fast! Perhaps not "Toshie" fast, but PDQ!  Big Smile

Thanks for posting your builds here, lawdog!  They are certainly fun to follow.

Gary

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, June 4, 2016 6:29 AM
If I were Toshi fast I could retire! Thanks Gary....

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, June 4, 2016 7:21 AM

I will really enjoy following along on your P-38 Joe. You've certainly done some fine work so far. The cockpit, per your usual, is aces. Have you tackled on of the Academy P-38's yet? That's what I mostly have in my stash and research tends to favor the Academy kit over the Hasegawa.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, June 4, 2016 7:24 AM

I don't know lawdog114, you did that pretty fast for one sitting and with much better technique and skill than I have sir!  What you have so far built is something I'm trying to and finding hard to achieve.  The skills, techniques, styles, and reader research information are beyond my comprehension.  

I'll be bumbling for a few decades before I can even get at the level many of you talented forum members are at.  Thank you for sharing your build of this magnificent and unique aircraft.

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, June 4, 2016 2:43 PM

Great looking pit dog. Can't wait to see more.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, June 4, 2016 5:57 PM
I'll be keeping a close eye on this one. The P-38 is one of my favorite fighters and I have the same kit in the stash. Hopefully the sanding won't be too bad.

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, June 4, 2016 9:07 PM

Joe, thanks.  The only P-38 I have experience with is this one.  I've built three so far.  I've actually heard the opposite, that this one is better in regards to detail, however, the Academy version is supposed to be an easier build.  The new Eduard boxing of the Academy mold with all the extra goodies has caught my attention though.  I would need that price of 70 bones to come down south of 50 before I were to pounce.  

Toshi, thanks but your better than you think you are.  You have come leaps and bounds from the first models you've shown here and those weren't slouches either.  Please send some of that Toshi magic over to Parma as I have to have an F-86 done and shipped to Texas by July 1st and I have yet to start that turkeyIndifferent  

PJ, thanks for the kind words and glad to have you along.  

Bob,  Thanks, but there will be alot of sanding...lots.  Fortunately I'll have Net Flix to keep me distracted.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 AM
You're right, Netflix will help. After taking a closer look at your pictures I can tell where some of the worst parts are. I'm going to bookmark this thread for when I get around to building mine.

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by 7474 on Sunday, June 5, 2016 1:32 PM

Wow, I'm impresssed on your lightning, can't wait to see the finished product. 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Monday, June 6, 2016 5:36 AM
Great looking pit. I too am a big Lightning fan. Have only y built one but plan on many more.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 6, 2016 7:45 AM

The P-38 was my favorite fighter as a kid and one of my first 'seroius' kits was the old Monogram one. Funny that I've started two of the same Hasegawa ones like yours and not liking where they were going finished neither of them.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Monday, June 6, 2016 8:54 AM

I have this very kit in the stash. I'm glad to see it in the hands of the master. I am certainly watching this one with keen interest.

BK

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Posted by rooster513 on Monday, June 6, 2016 9:26 AM

Another beautiful start lawdog! Can't wait to see that airbrush go to workBig Smile

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Posted by BrandonD on Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:14 PM

Looking excellent as always, Joe. And you seem to be building everything I have in my stash, so thanks for all the inspiration!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, June 27, 2016 11:58 PM

After the F-86 I'm back in the saddle here.  Out came the sandpaper, super glue, silver Sharpie and of course Net Flix to keep my sanity.  The worst fitting area is the gunbay seam clamshell.  Lots of sanding and rescribing.  In my opinion this is one of Hasegawa's worse fitting kits.  Dare I say it's very Monogram-like.  Anyways I muddled through it.  The seams were checked with Alclad primer.

  

I intend to depict CC with full invasion stripes right around D-day. At this point I painted everything that needed to be white X-2 Gloss White as I was completely out of their flat. This being a nose ring, the stripes, then the white tail triangle.  

Here I taped off everything that will stay white.

I painted the stripes black, taped the area off, them sprayed the engine fronts XF-3 Flat Yellow with a few drops of XF-7 Flat Red to brighten it up.  

CC was an Olive Drab over Neutral Grey machine.  Next came the XF-53.  I thinned it with Tamiya lacquer thinner which makes their paint spray like silk.  My research showed that the gearbays on the Lightning were Neutral Grey after 1942.  Not having to mask these was welcome surprise!

Now the frame was streaked with lightened XF-53 and the control surfaces lightened as well.  Then it got a postshade of diluted XF-1 Flat Black and XF-64 Red Brown cut with 91% Isoprohyl Alcohol.  It will probably get more later.

Olive Drab time.  I used Blue Tac to mask off the demarcation line. This stuff leaves a nice feathered edge.

Straight Gunze Aqueous Olive Drab.  I have yet to find a better shade to my eye.  I wish Gunze paints weren't so translucent.  It takes alot of paint to get it to the right consistency.

I gave the uppers the same weathering treatment then removed all the tape.  The Tamiya tape performed flawlessly as usual.  I know that the real invasion stripes were slopped on with brushes, but I just can't bring myself around to doing that.  On a side note, I read that the noses on the 20th FG P-38s were left in aluminum and the tips polished to fool the Germans into thinking they were unarmed recon Lightnings.  I simulated this look with Alclad Duraluminum and the tip in Polished Aluminum...

I replicated the supercharger heat and exhaust with XF-57 Buff then some light XF-1 down the center.  I'm pleased with how it turned out.  

I hope to be decaling soon.  Now on to those canopies.......ugh...  

  

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:13 AM

That P-38 is looking awesome dog. The paint shading looks just right.

I read somwhere that OD P-38s had light grey wheel bays and NMF ones were left unpainted. I ran into that info while building an Academy P-38 but can't recall where.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:39 AM

Thanks PJ. It's my understanding that even NMF lightnings could have had either silver lacquer or neutral grey gear bays, depending on the level of corrosion in there when it reached overseas. I guess they didn't use ZC because it was too hard to come by. Neutral grey was apparently readily available.  Apparently the landing gears themselves were neutral grey too which is what I might go with. 

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Posted by rooster513 on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:49 AM

Such a beautiful paint job! I've got to grab a bottle of lacquer thinner next time I'm at the hobby shop and see how it works. Do you always thin the acyrlics with the lacquer thinner? Looking forward to seeing it decaled up!

-Andy

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:33 AM

Looking absolutly stellar. Super nice work.

BK

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Posted by Jay Jay on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:51 AM

Beautiful work so far. Your AB skills are second to none, a level to aspire to.

I have an Academy 1/48 P-38 in the stash and am saving this WIP for future referance.  TY for posting this ,as always, informative and interesting WIP. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:43 AM

Oh my. This is excellent.

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Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:38 PM

Excellent paint and weathering job Joe. Really looks the part of an active P-38.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:46 PM

Jay

The Academy Lightning builds up really nice. Parts fit are good and the details are exceptional. 

Dog

sounds like the NMF Mustangs that had either chromate green or silver wells.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:57 PM
Great paint job! Thanks for the good info on the gear bays, I'd never heard that before.

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 2:02 PM

Yer winnin', yer winnin'.Wink

I built the Academy P-38E some time ago but I still remember some of the fits I had to work on.  But P-38's are never easy.

John

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:36 PM
Thanks all. Andy, only for spraying Tamiya paints and I reserve it to the paint scheme only, which needs to be nice and smooth. Their lacquer thinner is too expensive for everything else so I just use alcohol for that.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:12 AM

Beautiful! 

And interesting about the landing gear bays, I'd been painting them green zinc chromate... Dunce

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 1, 2016 7:54 PM

Thanks Gamera...

I was up late last night and got her done.  Again, I apologize for the lack of in-progress updates but my time has been at a premium lately.  To recap, it's the Hasegawa J kit in the markings of "California Cutie", flown by Richard Loehurt of the 55FS/20th FG right around D-day. I used an ancient set of Superscale decals which fortunately performed well.  Other than a set of PE belts and Quickboost gun barrels, its right out of the box.  

Can't lie, this is a tough kit and not Hasegwa's best work.  It's very old school Monogram-like with copious amounts of sanding, filling and rescribing.  You need patience to build this turkey.  This particular build was worse because the plastic was slightly warped and brittle.  I'm still pleased with how it turned out.  

Thanks for following.......

          

My next build is Eduard's reboxing of the Academy P-38 with all the goodies.  It will be kind of cool to see how these two compare to each other.  I hope to start that one next week.  

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Posted by mississippivol on Friday, July 1, 2016 8:33 PM
Excellent work, sir!
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