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Very old REVELL B52 WIP

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  • Member since
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  • From: Plano (Dallas), Texas
Very old REVELL B52 WIP
Posted by mmthrax on Sunday, January 07, 2018 6:08 PM

Hello all,

This is the next, and second aircraft I have attempted.  It is dated 1967 on the instructions, and 1970 on the box.  It is 1:144.  It is intended to accompany the C135 I have built previously.  My dad was at Walker AFB with the B52s and C135s and hopefully this build will start his memory machine. Smile

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Posted by mmthrax on Sunday, January 07, 2018 6:15 PM

This is what comes in the box.  

I thought it was complete, but I discovered that the rear canopy (correct terminology?) is missing.  Any ideas?  I have some .015  acetate sheets.  I wonder.  

Also, I have no military paint at all.  I want to do this plane in a military grey.  Can anyone suggest the "correct" paint for this vintage?  Also, if the top of the plane is grey, would the bottom also be grey, or be a lighter shade?  

Any help is appreciated.

Mark

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Posted by Jay Jay on Sunday, January 07, 2018 6:41 PM

As far as the colors  pattern ,you'll have to decide which era B-52 you want to build. My suggestion is that you research on google B-52 images and the specific AFB and go from there.

there are many after market parts you can get online for the rear canopies. I suggest ebay for a start or many online hobby shops ( google that too )

I hope this helps. At least it will give you a start in the wonderful world of model research.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, January 07, 2018 8:48 PM

I don’t believe that the tall tail B-52’s served into the gray scheme era. Only the later short tail versions did. They either were in the original bare metal over white scheme, or the later SAC camo colors over black scheme. As far as the gunners rear canopy goes, you could use a piece of clear sprue cut and sanded to shape, then polished to make a replacement plug. 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, January 07, 2018 9:34 PM

Nicely done, I’m looking forward to more of your WIP.

Your friend, Toshi

 

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Posted by mmthrax on Monday, January 08, 2018 11:44 AM

Thanks for the responses Jay Jay, stikpusher, and Toshi.

Based on some research, your responses, and trying to 

jar dad's memory, I will be going with a natural metal over white.

Thanks for your help.  I now have a positive direction for this build.

I appreciate your input and assistance.  As far as the rear canopy goes, I'm still working on that...

Off we go...

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Posted by Jay Jay on Monday, January 08, 2018 2:21 PM

You're very welcome Mate. We're modelers, it's what we do

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 3:21 AM

Very nice B-52.  You just don’t see kits like this anymore.  As you progress or dive in, I’ll be following closely to see the progression of this build.

You friend, Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

On the Bench:

Mrs. Toshi just purchased for me a Tamiya 1/48 Ki-61.  Thanks to M.Brindos and Model Maniac for the heads up and the inspiration in obtaining  this kit for my next build.

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Posted by kensar on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:24 AM

I'll be watching this project.  My dad was a SAC B-52 and B-47 pilot in the late 1950's and early 1960's.

One of these days I want to tackle the Hasegawa B-47.

Kensar

 

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Posted by mmthrax on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 10:57 AM

 

 

Thanks for looking guys.  I have moved forward a bit and learned a few things. 

First off, this model is NOT 1:144.  It is probably "box scale".  Who knows?  I assumed it was 144 because the C135 I built actually was 144, (stated on box) and this model was in the same size box and from the same Jet Commando series.  Anyway, as it started to come together I noticed just how small this model actually is.  The B52 is bigger than the C135 in real life and this model is SMALLER than the C135 model I did previously.  Lesson learned:  If the scale is not stated, you don't know what it is.  

Next, I noticed that there is a notch on the INSIDE of the wing that you cut out so you can mount the fuel tanks.  Simple enough.  Small issue.  I noticed this AFTER I had already glued one of the wings.  Hilarious.  Thats OK.  There was a faint outline on the outside that I could go by.  I got my caliper out and measured the exposed slot and was able to get the slot cut correctly.  Lesson learned:  PAY ATTENTION to the directions.

This will do...

 

Next I noticed that the fuselage had some detail along the top.

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Posted by mmthrax on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:34 AM

Once the two halves were glued, I noticed a high side and a low side.  

This is where it went south.  I decided to lose the detail on the top and try to even the two halves.  The main objective is the paint scheme, so the model looks like something dad remembers.  Then it hit me that the kit only gave me the decals for the tops of the wings.  I guess they want you to paint it camo like the box.  If I don't do that where will I get correct decals since I don't know the scale?  Ruminate.  Vacillate.  Perseverate.  Aaaahh the madness!!  I decided I'm going forward as planned.  I'll figure out how to print the US Air Force decals for the side of the fuselage in the right scale later.  So I leveled out the top, losing the detail.  Lesson learned:  Don't worry about it too much.  It's just a model and you'll figure it out as you go.  Just keep picking away at it.

Once I got to the underside, it was the same situation.  Knowing that grinding down half the model is probably not the way to do it, I decided to try to apply some putty to the low side and build it up.  So I moved on with the gluing for now.

 

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Posted by mmthrax on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:40 AM

Once the gluing proceeded I noticed that the vertical stabilizers on the tail don't fit flush.  That's OK.  I'll do some putty.  The wings don't fit perfectly flush into the fuselage.  More putty.  The engine pods are off alignment.  Trimming and putty.  Lesson learned:  Don't sweat it.  Just do it and see what you can learn.  

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Posted by mmthrax on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:01 PM

So this is the progress for now.  I'm actually enjoying myself.  Each task has challenges to overcome and lessons to be learned.  I can either think that "This is a beating and nothing is working", or "Let's see what I can learn today." I am determined to work my way through and learn and improve.  I'll keep you posted.  Thanks for looking.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:13 PM

Cool I remember that kit . when I built it  rushing and brushing pactra paint skills what skills lol thanks for the memories but so far so good !

 

 

 

Nick

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Posted by mmthrax on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:05 PM

Thanks for looking Nick.

Never used putty before, but tonight I will get started and see what I can learn.  Fingers crossed. 

Mark

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:00 PM

This kit is perfect for learning techniques on. You learn more from the hard ones than the easy ones. And if you want a 1/144 B-52 to match your KC-135, Minicraft makes several different versions. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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  • From: western North Carolina
Posted by kensar on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:25 PM

Another lesson to be taken away is:  test fitting before gluing is necessary.  At least you won't be suprised after the parts are together.  Look for mismatched surfaces and details that will need work.  Maybe getting rid of the locating pins is all that is needed.

Anyway, we've all been there and started out like you are right now.  Don't get discouraged.  It takes some time.  Visiting forums like this will shorten the time greatly.

Keep going!

Kensar

 

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Posted by mmthrax on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:16 PM

Thanks for commenting stikpusher.

Yes you're right.  "Smooth seas don't make for skillful sailors."  Need to remember that as the project continues.  I'll check into the Minicraft B52.  Thanks for the tip.  While this plane will serve its intended purpose, it lacks the kick in the pants of a larger one.

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Posted by mmthrax on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:25 PM

Thanks for commenting kensar.  

In hindsight, I think you're exactly right.  Removing the guide pins would have gone a long way.  It's a good thing this model only has a few pieces.Smile  

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Posted by Keyda81 on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:48 PM

This is me on every single model I do, lol.  It can be overwhelming at times, but I usually just walk away for a bit, then come back and figure out a solution.  You will learn a lot along the way.  I know I have, and I'm still learning with each build.  I still have tons of room for improvement, but I'm aslo a long ways from where I started.  I'm learning right now that I hate gloss paint, lol. 

You have a great attitude, keep it going, and you'll have a finished model in no time!

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Posted by mmthrax on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:41 PM

Thanks for the comment Keyda81.  I appreciate it.  

I'm just going to keep picking away at it.  Smile

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Posted by mmthrax on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:16 PM

Managed to do  a little bit before bed.  I'm using Tamiya white putty thinned with acetone per the Barons instructions.  Need to get my respirator out of the package.  Whew.  Strong stuff, those two.  Anyway, I just slapped a little bit on and tried to smooth it a bit.  I tried not to cake it on.  As I understand, there is shrinkage so I will need to reapply.  

I must admit kensars words were going through my head "Maybe getting rid of the locating pins is all that is needed."  Yes sir, for sure. 

No problem.  I'm still having fun.

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Posted by Keyda81 on Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:55 AM

Another putty to try is Perfect Plastic Putty.  It's the easiest stuff to use.  You can smooth it out with water, it sands great, and as far as I know there isn't any shrinkage.  I love the stuff. 

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Posted by mmthrax on Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:13 AM

Hey thanks Keyda81.  I'll check into that right now.  Need to save those braincells.  Don't want to get loopy on putty fumes.  I appreciate the tip.

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:44 AM

That’s the best attitude; “I’m having fun”!  If you’re not having fun, this nor any Hobby is not the Hobby for you.  You’ll do well as you’re moving in the right direction.  There’s  a fantastic support group here for you to assist you in anyway!

Your friend, Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

On the Bench:

Mrs. Toshi just purchased for me a Tamiya 1/48 Ki-61.  Thanks to M.Brindos and Model Maniac for the heads up and the inspiration in obtaining  this kit for my next build.

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