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Question to Hasegawa Bf109G-2 1/32 Finnish Airforce

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  • Member since
    April, 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Question to Hasegawa Bf109G-2 1/32 Finnish Airforce
Posted by JohanT on Sunday, May 13, 2018 10:47 AM

Hello,
I have recently picked up on this kit and need  some help.

The kit is engineerd in such a way that the engine cowling has an insert that is supplied as a separate part.

This will leave me with an awkward seem that I think should be completely removed.

You can see the seem here:

The kit has been about for some time so I guess this has been debated before and "best practice" can be shared.

Your advice would be very appreciated!

Best Regards
Johan

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    March, 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, May 13, 2018 11:36 AM

That’s a natural panel line on the real machine. 

 

 

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Sunday, May 13, 2018 10:00 PM

Yeah, I think your good just leaving it as-is.

Chad

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  • Member since
    April, 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, May 14, 2018 4:09 PM

Hello Nathan & Chad,

Thank you for taking your time and offer advice! 

The reason for my question is mainly that the only real machine I have seen did not have this.

Maybe a rivet line but not a panel line. 

So i decided to have a look in the stash and found that :

Tamiya, Hasegawa and Rewell have chosen the same solution with an insert for the center section. 

Eduard have done the same on their 1/48 G6 but not on their 1/48 G2 or 1/32 E.

Trumpeter have chosen to split the cowling along the center line, one option with rivet line, one without.

I also noticed that lawdog114 was asking himself the same question earlier in his Steinhoff build (excellent btw).

Will post some more pictures to show what I mean when back home again. 

Once again, thank you for taking interest! Your advice is greatly appreciated!

 

Very Best Regards

Johan

 

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    December, 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, May 14, 2018 4:13 PM

Johan, which is the machine you have seen. The 109G-2/Trop seems to have a pretty promonant one. I can;t see it having a riveted panel as that panel would need to be removed to acces the engine.

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  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, May 14, 2018 4:30 PM

Hi Bish,

I am talking about the horisontal line you can see in my picture resulting from the center piece covering the MG's. I will post a picture when back from work. 

It is from Flugwerft Schleissheim in Germany, posted them before but down the PB drain...

Thank you for stopping by! And congatulations to your Dio, XLNT! 

Very Best Regards

Johan 

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    April, 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, May 14, 2018 11:11 PM

Hi Again,

Here is the Bf109E on display in Unterschlessheim, Germany:

And here is an attempt to highlight the issue with the insert:



I will post photos of the varioues examples i listed later.

Best Regards
Johan

 

  • Member since
    December, 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:06 AM

Right, with you now. From what  ican see in images, that should be one panel from the hinge running along the top to bottom ending at the exhaust.

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Posted by Trabi on Tuesday, May 15, 2018 3:27 AM

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, May 15, 2018 7:33 AM

Sorry, I was looking at the wrong seam. So yes, fill the seam you have highlighted. And dont use an E for reference. Entirely different cowling. 

 

 

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    February, 2012
  • From: Parma, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, May 17, 2018 12:14 AM

I had same dilemma on my Tamiya 109 G.  Although I decided to leave it, I'm thinking it should be removed. Here's some reference...

No line here...

It's not in this profile picture either..

Pehaps the best evidence...definitely no line. Granted this cowl is a G-6.

 

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  • Member since
    April, 2006
  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Friday, May 18, 2018 12:53 AM

For the G-2 version, yes I would fill in that panel line.

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G-6/AS from 109lair site:

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

It looks like it sort of coincides with later Gustavs, such as the AS high altitude variety.  For this later one, I do recall reading the larger supercharger did not fit underneath the standard cowling, so the engine covers had to be reshaped around it. Thing is the cowl is also bulged, so not sure what either Hasegawa or Tamiya had in mind...

regards,

Jack

 

  • Member since
    April, 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, May 21, 2018 11:59 AM

Hi guys,
Thank you for your postings!

@ Bish,
Thanks, I will get this one up on the "Pride of the LW" as well.

@ Trabi, Have you seen the machine?
Is there anything in particular I should think of?
And does Mercu mean Mercedes or Mercenary :)

@ Nathan, you are right, I was not as clear as you were.
However, the basic design seems to be the same with the cowling split in 2 parts at the center.

@ lawdog114, thank you for your reply, I will share my progress on the Bf109 A6 later, this also uses a centerline panel insert.

@ Jack, thanks - the link was new to me, much appreciated :)

Thank you for your time and taking interest, much appreciated!

Very Best Regards
Johan

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