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Londo's Folly 1:48 B-29 Completed

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  • Member since
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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Londo's Folly 1:48 B-29 Completed
Posted by Greatmaker on Monday, September 03, 2018 6:00 PM

Well this is the last of my big bombers. From now on it's Tamiya fighers and Strike aircraft all the way.  So far the build hasn't been too bad except for the crappy interior painting instructions.  I found an older version of the instructions that had better info plus I did a lot of research...still..I took some creative license with the interior painting.  Evertything was going swimmingly until it came to gluing on the bombs.  As istructed it's nearly impossible to get them aligned correctly.....for me impossible.. Even gluing to the bomb rack before putting that on the fuselage was an exercise in frustration.  Why you ask would I put all this internal detail in when I making it all closed up.....My only answer is I"M AN IDIOT.  As you can see I cheated on the engines.  I figured I'd reached my limit of aggravation so I painted them.  Don't think they turned out too bad though.  Just cemented the fuselage halves together.. They were slightly warped so a great deal of Tamiya thin, hand clamping, and cussing were involved.  Lets just say that I have a great deal of putty work to do.  Haven't started the wings and I have some nasty injector marks to putty.  What's the best liquid to smooth squadren putty?  I tried some acetone on some small parts and it melted the pastic.  Anyhoo here is the folly so far

 IMG_2346 by Robert Pederson, on Flickr

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  • From: Casa Grande, Az.
Posted by DesertRat on Monday, September 03, 2018 8:47 PM

She looks pretty fantastic so far! 

 

Built that hat back when I was 16. First time I tried a NMF; I didn’t realize you couldn’t dry brush it. Still, an impressive size and a lot of fun. 

 

Bought it again a few months ago. I still have to relearn some of the basics. But I want to learn Alclad just for That kit. Perhaps I’ll work up the nerve to try in the next few years.

Warmest regards,

Roger

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, September 03, 2018 9:19 PM

Very nice work.

Where will you put the finished kit? I only ask because, although I'm retired and single (two ex wives - no third strike here! Wink), I live in a condo and don't have much room for model display. So I'm curious about what you're going to do with it when it's done.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Monday, September 03, 2018 10:02 PM

I’ve never used alclad. I have model master metalizer paints. I’ll use rattle cans for the overall finish and airbrush over the mistakes. As for displaying I plan on putting it on top of my large display case. I don’t plan on adding weights as I’ve read that can put a lot of pressure on the gear. 

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 03, 2018 10:15 PM

Yeah the interior and engines look pretty darn good to me. And the bombs look right as far as I can tell in the photos.

I've always used just plain rubbing alcohol on Squadron putty. Only issue with it is it will strip acrylic paint.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, September 04, 2018 10:26 PM

The wings on that model are warped and can ruin the appearance of the model. I recently built that model and I have a soultion. If you would like I can share my solution.

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Posted by Davja on Tuesday, September 04, 2018 11:08 PM

JohnnyK

The wings on that model are warped and can ruin the appearance of the model. I recently built that model and I have a soultion. If you would like I can share my solution.

 

 

I'd love to hear your solution, I've had one of these in the stash forever.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, September 04, 2018 11:19 PM

That model has a few  gotchas that can ruin the final product.  It's getting a little late. I'll share my solutions tomorrow.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, September 05, 2018 11:08 AM

I didn't want to add my photos to your post, so I made a post with some solutions to the problems that you will need to address regarding your B-29 build. 

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/179912.aspx

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    May, 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:15 PM

Nice work so far.

Wow, that thing must be going to be huge. (good sentence, I know....)

-Greg

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  • From: Irmo, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Wednesday, September 05, 2018 12:18 PM
Greatmaker, that Revell B-29 builds into a fine model and your build is certainly doing it justice. Keep on and show us the finished product.

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Wednesday, September 05, 2018 1:44 PM

Thanks guys. Have to take a weeks hiatus. Heading out to North Dakota to  help my daughter usher in my grandson. As far as the wings go. Mine are relatively straight. Not sure about the engines though the butt joint has me worried. I’m thinking about gluing some sprues in the top open area to give the engines something to sit on

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 05, 2018 8:31 PM

This wasn't another of Lord Refa's brilliant plans was it????

All joking aside have a great trip, stepping away from this is a really good idea.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 1:52 AM
Looks great! Congrats on the new addition to your family my friend!..

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Friday, September 14, 2018 11:17 AM

lawdog114
Looks great! Congrats on the new addition to your family my friend!..
 

Thanks Joe Everything went great 9 lb 6 oz bouncing baby boy. Back home now so looking forward to hitting the bench again

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 14, 2018 11:29 AM

Greatmaker

 

 
lawdog114
Looks great! Congrats on the new addition to your family my friend!..
 

 

 

Thanks Joe Everything went great 9 lb 6 oz bouncing baby boy. Back home now so looking forward to hitting the bench again

 

Congratulations!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:59 AM

Well the best I can say about this one is that it is finished.  Numerous fit issues especially the engines and the bomb bay doors.  I tried creating some supports for the engines but that didn't work because the engines had to be slightly rotated and my "fix" didn't allow that.  I used the clear support instead of front weights and you'd think it would be the correct length...nope had to shorten. My main lesson for me on this one is that I don't work well with model master metalizer paints.  The finish is way too fragile and easily dinged.  I stripped the paint off of this one at least 4 times.  Of course I managed to get alcohol around the canopy and it bled silver under the masks.  I't created a scuzzy surface which I was unable to polish out despite multiple attempts to do so.  I covered with some pledge and called it good.  Also it seems like the metalizer dissolves putty.  I puttied the dropouts on the wings but as soon as I hit them with the paint it looked like I didn't fill in a thing. Removed the paint used a differnt putty and it still dissolved it.  Also did the same on the bottom seam.  I spent many hours sanding and adding putty all for naught. I waited until the end to glue on the antenna's with superglue.  Too bad that didn't play nice with metalizer either.  It melts the finish and doesn't harden....see the antenna pic with the big mar around it.  Also managed to break off the back cannon...that's a Lancaster replacement.  Bottom line my metalizer is out the door and Alclad here I come.  Sorry no pics of the bottom. Too many breakables. Thanks for looking at my exercise in frustration.  It's the last of my bombers and now onto a nice easy Tamiya kit

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:58 PM

She looks pretty darn good to me. I'm blowing up your photos and the NM finish looks perfect from here. Frankly I tried the MM Metalizer and hated the the stuff, even looking at it cross-eyed would cause it to lift. Alclad II is much, much, easier to work with. You can even mask it with Tamiya and Frog type low-tack tape without it lifting.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:09 PM

Thanks Gamera, I’ve used the metalizer paint on a couple of fighters and I didn’t have to superglue any parts. I didn’t have near the trouble with those but I’m definitely ordering some alclad to do any future NMF’s

 

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:04 PM

Dunno Robert, looks pretty darn good to me too.  That finish looks fine. Treat yourself to something easy no, maybe a Tamiya Jug. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:34 PM

Even without the hassle it gave you it looks just fine - no, excellent to me. Given the problems you mentioned, you did a marvelous job on the kit.

The top of your display case must have a lot of real estate Smile.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:58 PM

1943Mike

Even without the hassle it gave you it looks just fine - no, excellent to me. Given the problems you mentioned, you did a marvelous job on the kit.

The top of your display case must have a lot of real estate Smile.

 

Thanks guys I think I need a bigger boat

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Posted by Greatmaker on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:59 PM

lawdog114

Dunno Robert, looks pretty darn good to me too.  That finish looks fine. Treat yourself to something easy no, maybe a Tamiya Jug. 

 

Nope Tamiya trop 109 for me

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:13 PM

Good job on your B-29, even with all the issues you experienced. I also have quit using Metalizers for such paint jobs; I do still use those for detail painting. For exterior surfaces, I have been using Alclads but I also have started using AK Interactive as well.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:33 PM

That is a really nice looking model. Revell's B-29 is not an easy model to build. You did a great job!!!

Testors' Metalizers are really difficult paints and I have never been able to achieve acceptable results. It is important to never use a primer under Metalizer paints. I have stopped using them and I use Bare Metal Foil instead.

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Posted by Keyda81 on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:46 PM

I've heard more than once how much of a pain that kit can be.  Looks great despite all the troubles you had! 

I think metalizer paints are rather finicky.  I've had good results, and not so good results.  I have recently completed an F-101 Voodoo where I used the metalizer paints under the tail.  I did use primer under the paint, and didn't have any ill effects.  I sprayed it with their sealer as well.  I think that makes a difference.  Using plain clear coat doesn't seem to "seal" the metalizer paint.  I thought it would, but it rubbed off my current project as soon as I started to handle it.  I'm by no means an expert, and have only used the metalizer a few times, so don't take my word for it, lol. 

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:02 PM

JohnnyK

That is a really nice looking model. Revell's B-29 is not an easy model to build. You did a great job!!!

Testors' Metalizers are really difficult paints and I have never been able to achieve acceptable results. It is important to never use a primer under Metalizer paints. I have stopped using them and I use Bare Metal Foil instead.

 

Thanks Johnny. Believe me I thought about your foiled one more than once but I just couldn’t imagine doing that.  I didn‘t use a primer and before I painted I wiped the whole plane down with alcohol. 20/20 maybe I should have drank some instead. One neat thing that happened is after my first painting pass followed my my first completed strip down with alcohol, it didn’t take all the paint off and it left kinda a distressed aluminum look. It looked pretty neat but for some reason in certain areas I had shiny aluminum spots so the finish wasn’t even. If not for those I would have left it distressed. Even after the fourth time completely stripping the paint off those shiny spots remained. I tried to replicate that effect on some of the spare parts but it didn’t work

 

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:11 PM

Keyda81

I've heard more than once how much of a pain that kit can be.  Looks great despite all the troubles you had! 

I think metalizer paints are rather finicky.  I've had good results, and not so good results.  I have recently completed an F-101 Voodoo where I used the metalizer paints under the tail.  I did use primer under the paint, and didn't have any ill effects.  I sprayed it with their sealer as well.  I think that makes a difference.  Using plain clear coat doesn't seem to "seal" the metalizer paint.  I thought it would, but it rubbed off my current project as soon as I started to handle it.  I'm by no means an expert, and have only used the metalizer a few times, so don't take my word for it, lol. 

 

Thanks Keyda I’ve used melaizers on some small fighters with not too much problems. On those I sealed them with testors glosscoat. I tried that on this one and it was a disaster. It created a weird mottled effect that looked like I had bubbles all over.  Hence an alcohol strip and the next time I used the metalizer sealer. Unfortunately I was doing some repair painting and I forgot to put the cap on my paint brush. I sloshed some metalizer paint on a wing and it was just like dripping acid on it. It melted off everywhere it hit and I couldn’t patch it So stripped off all the paint again with alcohol. The reaction to the superglue really surprised me. I ended up using a thicker testors liquid cement to glue the breakables on  I would normally put on antennas but not without using superglue

 

 

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:21 PM

Aggieman

Good job on your B-29, even with all the issues you experienced. I also have quit using Metalizers for such paint jobs; I do still use those for detail painting. For exterior surfaces, I have been using Alclads but I also have started using AK Interactive as well.

 

Thanks Aggieman. Alclad is on my to get before my next NMF project. Any pitfalls I need to be aware of? I’ve heard the AK Interactive is good too but Ive heard it has a much longer drying time. That would be problematic in my house. With 6 dogs and 4 cats hair is a problem...despite my no animals allowed modeling room. I’m surprised I didn’t see much on this one. It was too big for my spray booth so down in the basement I went. I had a plastic sheet over a table and one night I forgot to take it off  The next morning I got scolded because all the cats had silver paws.  They weren’t happy when I removed that paint

 

 

 

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