Dirt Wash Problem

BrynnWryttur

Johnny1000

Or, consider using a more robust clear coat... Aqua Gloss or X22. That way you have a little more flexiblity in your weathering product selection: enamel washes, or oils, or whatever.

X-22, is that Tamiya? I’ve never heard of it. 

It sounds like it, doesn't it?

I checked at Tamiya's website, and it is.  X-22, the clear acrylic gloss:

https://www.tamiyausa.com/search/?q=x-22

plasticjunkie

 

 

Rambo

Spruebrothers stocks them.

 

 

 

 

Mine are a couple of years old and at the time were available only from the UK. I have  Dark Grime and Weathering Grime.  SB only has what looks to be a new color "Light Dirt Wash". The  bottle label is also different so it looks like new packaging.

 

I just looked and you're right. I have three types dark dirt, mud and light dirt they was giving to me by a friend who didn't like them they all have the spruebrothers stocking lable on them so I just assumed they still stocked them. Hope someone in the states starts selling them before I run out.

Mr Clean for a wash mix??????

This stuff is powerful.  I use it only for cleaning enamel out of my airbrush jars and equipment. 

It should never be mixed with anything but water.    

Johnny1000

Or, consider using a more robust clear coat... Aqua Gloss or X22. That way you have a little more flexiblity in your weathering product selection: enamel washes, or oils, or whatever. 

 

X-22, is that Tamiya? I’ve never heard of it. 

ChrisJH666

I know that the modelmaking fraternity over the years has found novel uses for various household products when building models, but when there are far more products from the supermarket shelves than the model shop used to finish a model, I wonder if we are taking things a little too far? 

I think it's more a bit of old-school modeling, going back to the days before there were so many purpose-made products for modeling.  You want putty to sculpt something?  Before there was Aves, there was plumber's putty.  You want to fill seams, and you never heard of Tamiya, or even Squadron?  Automotive filler.  Need a sprue cutter?  Borrow Mom's cuticle cutter.  Sanding?  Sandpaper from Dad's workbench, or emery boards from Mom.  And so on.  A good modeler had to be resourceful.

Mr. Clean contains an alcohol; I suspect that is what attacked the Future.

Here is a list of the ingredients in Mr. Clean:

https://www.pgproductsafety.com/productsafety/ingredients/household_care/cleaners/MrClean/Mr_Clean_Multi_Surfaces_Liquid_Ultimate_Orange.pdf

If you meant to increase the surface tension of your wash, to control its flow, I agree with the others about adding a drop of liquid soap.  It doesn't take much.  I've mixed it in washes using a toothpick to pick up a bit of soap and then to stir it into the wash.

Tojo72

I know a lot of people use different non modeling products,but I try to stick with stuff made for modeling,for washes I use Flory Washes which have performed flawlessly

 

This.....the latest incarnation of Future is pretty much worthless.  Try Alclad's gloss.    

Johnny1000

Or, consider using a more robust clear coat... Aqua Gloss or X22. That way you have a little more flexiblity in your weathering product selection: enamel washes, or oils, or whatever. 

 

I love that Aqua Gloss !!!

Or, consider using a more robust clear coat... Aqua Gloss or X22. That way you have a little more flexiblity in your weathering product selection: enamel washes, or oils, or whatever. 

Rambo

Spruebrothers stocks them.

 

Mine are a couple of years old and at the time were available only from the UK. I have  Dark Grime and Weathering Grime.  SB only has what looks to be a new color "Light Dirt Wash". The  bottle label is also different so it looks like new packaging.

Tojo72

I know a lot of people use different non modeling products,but I try to stick with stuff made for modeling,for washes I use Flory Washes which have performed flawlessly

 

Tojo, where do you buy your Flory Washes? I've only seen the washes available on the guy's website. I'd sure like to find 'em on this side of the pond.

ChrisJH666

I wonder if we are taking things a little too far?

 

Apparently I am, since I wrecked my paint job It seemed like a good idea, transparent liquid soap that doesn’t change the wash color. Nope. 

I know that the modelmaking fraternity over the years has found novel uses for various household products when building models, but when there are far more products from the supermarket shelves than the model shop used to finish a model, I wonder if we are taking things a little too far?

BrynnWryttur

What was my mistake? What did I do wrong?? ............ If it's not obvious, this is one of my first builds.

Re-reading this thread, I'm guessing you read somewhere that a drop of dishwasher detergent can be used with wash. You might have misunderstood the purpose and figured any 'ol cleaner will do. Honest enough mistake.

The reason to use a drop of dishwasher detergent, and by that I mean the stuff in the little plastic bottle by the kitchen sink (Dawn and stuff like that), is that water tends to bead up over a slippery gloss surface like "Future". A drop of detergent breaks up the surface tension forming the bubbles and helps your wash flow evenly.

That's my guess, anyway. Hang on to the Mr Clean for countertops and such, though. Hope you get things stripped.

Windex will remove the Future easily. I also use Flory washes, they are excellent.

plasticjunkie

It strongly believe it did. I don't know if it has ammonia which will dissolve Future.

 

It says there’s no ammonia, but maybe it was a different ingredient. Maybe I should stick to Dawn dish soap. 

I wonder if I can get it off if I clean the Pledge off with windex? Hopefully some other crazy thing won’t happe...

It strongly believe it did. I don't know if it has ammonia which will dissolve Future.

jeaton01

I would suspect the Mr. Clean attacked the Future.

 

I would suspect the Mr. Clean attacked the Future.