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Need advice on painting Fw-190 winter scheme

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Need advice on painting Fw-190 winter scheme
Posted by MrStecks on Sunday, January 13, 2019 1:03 PM

I'm working on Eduard's 1/48 Fw-190 A4, and I'm looking for advice on painting the winter scheme.

My original idea was to paint the plane in it's normal summer camo pattern, then overcoat it with the winter whitewash, building up layers to achieve the right effect. 
Or would it be easier to eliminate the summer camo completely and just build up the whitewash over the primer, then layer the faded green on top where it's bleeding through?

Not sure if one way is better than the other.  I think overcoating the summer camo would give a more "authentic" look, but it basically means painting the plane twice.

Here's the shceme:

 

Cheers,
Mark


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Posted by bvallot on Sunday, January 13, 2019 1:26 PM
So here’s a topic I’m comfortable speaking on. =] There’s no straight road here to take you where you want to get. Plenty of ways to go about it. I’d say you could narrow down some of these methods based on your skill set with painting. Personally, I’d say paint the regular scheme first and then apply the winter camo on top. I would even put a light flat coat to seal everything before doing the winter scheme if you were going to do any kind of considerable weathering that would “remove” some of the winter camo. The only thing to be mindful of is getting to thick with all the layers that go down. Painting it in this manner though will absolutely give you the most realism without having to push a color from “underneath” up in a way that it ought to be showing. Whatever shows will show and more simply. The flat coat in between will protect from light sanding if you wanted to rub away excess paint from your winter camo. Whatever happens to be underneath will still be there. Get creative with your tools too. A stiff brush or blunt needle tool can remove fresh paint with varying patterns and thickness of strokes. Just take your time with it. Don’t take off more than you need. Hope that helps.

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Posted by MrStecks on Sunday, January 13, 2019 2:38 PM

Thanks for the input Brit, I hadn't thought about the weathering aspect.  It does make sense to have the regular camo underneath to open up the weathering possibilities of the top layers of paint.
I've become more comfortable with black-basing and layering paint but I'm sure this scheme will be a challenge.  Always good to push the envelope.  That's the path to improvement.  Smile

Cheers,
Mark

 


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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 13, 2019 2:53 PM

I would go with the camo first and then white wash on top. Its the best way to get an authentic look as of course thats how it was done. I know it means painting twice and going over your nice camo scheme, but i think you will get the best result that way.

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, January 13, 2019 7:22 PM
The only thing I can add is when you do the summer camo don't worry about being perfect. It's going to be 90% covered anyway

 

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Posted by MrStecks on Sunday, January 13, 2019 8:10 PM

I've decided to go ahead and do the summer camo, then overcoat with the winter white.  Already laid down the marble and first blend coat on the underside.  Unfortunately, I managed to snap off one of the gun barrels in the process.  D'oh!

Oh well, I have others that can be swapped in.

Thanks for the help guys.

Cheers,
Mark


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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, January 14, 2019 11:37 PM
On my 109 last year I did the normal camo then went back with diluted XF-2 flat white and built it up until I was satisfied. I liked the results. ,

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:16 PM

AMMO MiG of Jimenez has the perfect white for your winter camo scheme. It’s called Washable White Camo. Scalehobbyist has it but is currently backordered.

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Posted by MrStecks on Thursday, January 17, 2019 3:12 PM

Thanks BlackSheep. I found it at MegaHobby, so I will give it a test.
I've done some testing with diluted FX-2 as lawdog mentioned, but still trying different thinner/paint ratios. 

Cheers,
Mark


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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, October 27, 2023 11:28 AM

Thanks Sheep,that looks like good stuff,will try it

 

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