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1/48 Douglas TBD-1 Devastator (VT-2 Lexington)

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  • From: Sunny So. Cal... The OC
Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 03, 2019 10:15 AM

 

Marine SB2U in the overall light gray burning at MCAS Ewa after the Pearl Harbor Attack.

Both the Army and Navy/Marine Corps were trying to get aircraft repainted into War colors but had not completely dome so in both Hawaii and the Phillipines when the war started for US forces.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, June 03, 2019 8:09 AM
Very interesting,like it a lot.

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, June 03, 2019 5:23 AM

stikpusher

 

 
Shipwreck

 

 
lawdog114
stikpusher
the Baron

That's a great finish!

I can't help thinking, though, that the poor plane captain is going to get a chewing-out for the state of that TBD Wink

 I agree wholeheartedly with the above. A beautiful artistic finish, but not so realistic. Pre war TBDs in most every photo look to be very well maintained and cleaned. The peacetime Navy op tempo allowed for such niceties. 

One critique that I would add is that the tail color for the Lexinton’s Air Group was Lemon Yellow, a lighter and distinctly different shade than the wing top Chrome Yellow.

Thanks Stik. I‘ll go ahead and disagree about the dirty part. Just because there are no pictures of them dirty doesn’t necessarily mean it never happened on occasion. These tend to look like toys without weathering so I sought to avoid this. 

Thanks for the info about the tail. I never even thought of it. This turkey was way out of my comfort zone. 

 

 

 

Stik and Joe,  Regarding the camouflage/weathering question; I think you are both right. It just depends. For example, how many pre war marked aircraft turned blue on December 7th? It had to take time to repaint the entire fleet of aircraft. From what I understand, the war disrupted many things. It seems perfectly reasonable to me if a pretty pre war marked plan were to get dirty before it got blue! Just a thought.

 

 

 

Oh the run up to the war disrupted many things. Op tempo increased. Alerts and patrols as the war clouds gathered. But there was another paint scheme worn between the Yellow Wings scheme, and the Blue Gray over Gray, overall Light Gray, which began to be applied in early 1941. The Blue Gray over Gray did not take effect until October of 1941 and priority went to shipboard Aircraft. There are photos showing land based USN/USMC aircraft in the overall light gray at Pearl Harbor and on Oahu immediately after the attack.

 

Great discussion!  I do recall the light grey scheme from when I built the SBD-1 back when I first got back into the hobby. It was the second kit I built when I return and I used model master light gull grey if I remember correctly. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, June 02, 2019 5:30 PM

Shipwreck

 

 
lawdog114
stikpusher
the Baron

That's a great finish!

I can't help thinking, though, that the poor plane captain is going to get a chewing-out for the state of that TBD Wink

 I agree wholeheartedly with the above. A beautiful artistic finish, but not so realistic. Pre war TBDs in most every photo look to be very well maintained and cleaned. The peacetime Navy op tempo allowed for such niceties. 

One critique that I would add is that the tail color for the Lexinton’s Air Group was Lemon Yellow, a lighter and distinctly different shade than the wing top Chrome Yellow.

Thanks Stik. I‘ll go ahead and disagree about the dirty part. Just because there are no pictures of them dirty doesn’t necessarily mean it never happened on occasion. These tend to look like toys without weathering so I sought to avoid this. 

Thanks for the info about the tail. I never even thought of it. This turkey was way out of my comfort zone. 

 

 

 

Stik and Joe,  Regarding the camouflage/weathering question; I think you are both right. It just depends. For example, how many pre war marked aircraft turned blue on December 7th? It had to take time to repaint the entire fleet of aircraft. From what I understand, the war disrupted many things. It seems perfectly reasonable to me if a pretty pre war marked plan were to get dirty before it got blue! Just a thought.

 

Oh the run up to the war disrupted many things. Op tempo increased. Alerts and patrols as the war clouds gathered. But there was another paint scheme worn between the Yellow Wings scheme, and the Blue Gray over Gray, overall Light Gray, which began to be applied in early 1941. The Blue Gray over Gray did not take effect until October of 1941 and priority went to shipboard Aircraft. There are photos showing land based USN/USMC aircraft in the overall light gray at Pearl Harbor and on Oahu immediately after the attack.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:24 PM

Shipwreck

 

 
lawdog114
stikpusher
the Baron

That's a great finish!

I can't help thinking, though, that the poor plane captain is going to get a chewing-out for the state of that TBD Wink

 I agree wholeheartedly with the above. A beautiful artistic finish, but not so realistic. Pre war TBDs in most every photo look to be very well maintained and cleaned. The peacetime Navy op tempo allowed for such niceties. 

One critique that I would add is that the tail color for the Lexinton’s Air Group was Lemon Yellow, a lighter and distinctly different shade than the wing top Chrome Yellow.

Thanks Stik. I‘ll go ahead and disagree about the dirty part. Just because there are no pictures of them dirty doesn’t necessarily mean it never happened on occasion. These tend to look like toys without weathering so I sought to avoid this. 

Thanks for the info about the tail. I never even thought of it. This turkey was way out of my comfort zone. 

 

 

 

Stik and Joe,  Regarding the camouflage/weathering question; I think you are both right. It just depends. For example, how many pre war marked aircraft turned blue on December 7th? It had to take time to repaint the entire fleet of aircraft. From what I understand, the war disrupted many things. It seems perfectly reasonable to me if a pretty pre war marked plan were to get dirty before it got blue! Just a thought.

 

Excellent point. All passes still revoked!

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:22 PM

Tickmagnet

Very nice build.

 

Thanks Tick

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:21 PM

Tom Hering

Excellent. I really like pre-war colors and markings.

 

Thanks Tom

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  • From: Irmo, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:12 PM

lawdog114
stikpusher
the Baron

That's a great finish!

I can't help thinking, though, that the poor plane captain is going to get a chewing-out for the state of that TBD Wink

 I agree wholeheartedly with the above. A beautiful artistic finish, but not so realistic. Pre war TBDs in most every photo look to be very well maintained and cleaned. The peacetime Navy op tempo allowed for such niceties. 

One critique that I would add is that the tail color for the Lexinton’s Air Group was Lemon Yellow, a lighter and distinctly different shade than the wing top Chrome Yellow.

Thanks Stik. I‘ll go ahead and disagree about the dirty part. Just because there are no pictures of them dirty doesn’t necessarily mean it never happened on occasion. These tend to look like toys without weathering so I sought to avoid this. 

Thanks for the info about the tail. I never even thought of it. This turkey was way out of my comfort zone. 

 

Stik and Joe,  Regarding the camouflage/weathering question; I think you are both right. It just depends. For example, how many pre war marked aircraft turned blue on December 7th? It had to take time to repaint the entire fleet of aircraft. From what I understand, the war disrupted many things. It seems perfectly reasonable to me if a pretty pre war marked plan were to get dirty before it got blue! Just a thought.

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Posted by Tickmagnet on Sunday, June 02, 2019 8:12 AM

Very nice build.

 

 

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  • From: Stevens Point, Wisconsin, USA
Posted by Tom Hering on Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:23 AM

Excellent. I really like pre-war colors and markings.

"A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success" - Elbert Hubbard

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, June 02, 2019 5:55 AM

Greg

Zowie. That is really eye-catching, Joe.

 

 

Thanks Greg

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, June 02, 2019 5:54 AM

stikpusher

 

 
the Baron

That's a great finish!

I can't help thinking, though, that the poor plane captain is going to get a chewing-out for the state of that TBD Wink

 

 

 

I agree wholeheartedly with the above. A beautiful artistic finish, but not so realistic. Pre war TBDs in most every photo look to be very well maintained and cleaned. The peacetime Navy op tempo allowed for such niceties. 

One critique that I would add is that the tail color for the Lexinton’s Air Group was Lemon Yellow, a lighter and distinctly different shade than the wing top Chrome Yellow.

 

Thanks Stik. I‘ll go ahead and disagree about the dirty part. Just because there are no pictures of them dirty doesn’t necessarily mean it never happened on occasion. These tend to look like toys without weathering so I sought to avoid this. 

Thanks for the info about the tail. I never even thought of it. This turkey was way out of my comfort zone. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, June 01, 2019 2:58 PM

Zowie. That is really eye-catching, Joe.

 

-Greg

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  • From: Sunny So. Cal... The OC
Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, June 01, 2019 2:17 PM

the Baron

That's a great finish!

I can't help thinking, though, that the poor plane captain is going to get a chewing-out for the state of that TBD Wink

 

I agree wholeheartedly with the above. A beautiful artistic finish, but not so realistic. Pre war TBDs in most every photo look to be very well maintained and cleaned. The peacetime Navy op tempo allowed for such niceties. 

One critique that I would add is that the tail color for the Lexinton’s Air Group was Lemon Yellow, a lighter and distinctly different shade than the wing top Chrome Yellow.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    February, 2012
  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, June 01, 2019 5:12 AM

the Baron

That's a great finish!

I can't help thinking, though, that the poor plane captain is going to get a chewing-out for the state of that TBD Wink

 

Thanks! Indeed. Pass revoked!

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Friday, May 31, 2019 3:31 PM

That's a great finish!

I can't help thinking, though, that the poor plane captain is going to get a chewing-out for the state of that TBD Wink

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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    February, 2012
  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, May 31, 2019 5:34 AM

RadMax8

Hi Joe,

Great work. I can imagine the masks not settling down gets annoying. Have you thought about cutting your own masks with kabuki tape (basically sheets of Tamiya tape)? I’ve heard those craft cutters make quick work of making masks.

This is a great build, thanks for sharing. Any interest in doing more yellow wings in the future?

 

Thanks Max. I do cut Japanese meatballs out of Tamiya tape, not sure I have the desire to try anything more complicated. Montex normally works great sans the corrugated surface.

...and no, likely my last one.  

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, May 31, 2019 5:30 AM

1943Mike

Fabulous scale model work Joe!

 

Thanks Mike

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, May 31, 2019 5:29 AM

Shipwreck

Well Joe, I would say that you deserve a double WOW; one for each TBD. The pre-war color scheme is just pretty! Thanks for sharing you art work.

 

 

Thanks Ship, and your welcome.  

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  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by RadMax8 on Thursday, May 30, 2019 10:30 AM

Hi Joe,

Great work. I can imagine the masks not settling down gets annoying. Have you thought about cutting your own masks with kabuki tape (basically sheets of Tamiya tape)? I’ve heard those craft cutters make quick work of making masks.

This is a great build, thanks for sharing. Any interest in doing more yellow wings in the future?

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Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, May 28, 2019 3:04 PM

Fabulous scale model work Joe!

Mike

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  • From: Irmo, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, May 28, 2019 8:31 AM

Well Joe, I would say that you deserve a double WOW; one for each TBD. The pre-war color scheme is just pretty! Thanks for sharing you art work.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, May 24, 2019 11:52 PM

Greatmaker

Really like the weathered yellow and NMF look. I didn’t think I would like the pre-war version but I have to admit yours raises the bar

 

Thanks Robert! I didn’t think I was gonna like it either, but it grew on me. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, May 24, 2019 11:51 PM

philo426

Yes sir!Classic Monogram kit!

 

Nice! Mine is actually the subject on the box art of that old kit. The guy I built it for built that one as a kid. He’s feelin‘ nostalgic!

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Posted by Greatmaker on Friday, May 24, 2019 11:14 PM

Really like the weathered yellow and NMF look. I didn’t think I would like the pre-war version but I have to admit yours raises the bar

 

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, May 24, 2019 4:12 PM

Yes sir!Classic Monogram kit!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, May 24, 2019 3:55 PM

philo426

 

Nice! Is that bare metal foil? 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, May 24, 2019 3:54 PM

Reasoned

I must say, you've made the pre-war scheme of yellow wings etc. look better than acceptable, it really is attractive. I think your weathering has, as you said, made it look less toy-like. Very nice Joe.

 

Thanks Reasoned. It was actually more challenging than you would think. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, May 24, 2019 3:53 PM

BrandonK

Wow, Joe. That looks fantastic. Now that I've see you do both schemes I don't know which one I like better for mine. I thought I loved the blue scheme, but this yellow wing is amazing looking. Hmm, may have to flip a coin. Well done, again.

BK

 

Thanks Brandon

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