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1/48 Eduard FW 190D-13, Yellow 10, JG 26, Franz Goetz (Complete!)

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Posted by Hoss WA on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 11:25 PM

Thanks for the comments Treyzx, Mike and RadMax! Much appreciated and very motivational. Thanks again. 

 

 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 12:27 PM

Absolutely nailed it. Very impressive. As for your first foray into the world of aftermarket resin goodies, good luck to your wallet! It's a sickness many of us in the modeling community are afflicted with. 

Can't wait to see what you've got lined up next. 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, October 23, 2019 12:26 AM

That is one gorgeous maternal copulator!

Be proud of that one!!

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:09 PM

Very nicely done Sir! Thats a stunning looking build , would be proud to have that on my shelf!!!

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Posted by Hoss WA on Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:17 PM
Yellow 10 is now complete! This is by far the biggest modeling project I've undertaken so far, and though it was much more work than I anticipated, I'm happy with the outcome. 

To summarize, I used the base Eduard FW 190D-13 Profipak kit with the following additions: Quickboost supercharger intake and exhaust, Master cannons and pitot, Eduard detail kit, Eduard wooden landing flaps, Montex masks for main markings, Eagle decals, AK Real Color paints for RLM 02, 66, 70, 75, 76, 81, and 82. Model Master paint for RLM 25 (spinner). 

Since the last update, I did a Flory panel line wash and picked out some of the rivet detail. Then I oversprayed the entire plane with a thinned buff-gray mix to tone down the solid white and black areas. The exhaust and gun smoke was a combination of thinned black-brown paint plus some pastels. The spinner was weathered to reflect oil leaks in the hub. I gave it two coats of Model Master Flat Clear Lacquer for the final finish. The antenna was stretched sprue to get the right sag. 

This was a very challenging build for me but I think it looks good in the end. I probably went overboard with the aftermarket add-ons (this was my first time using them). I would recommend the cannons, intake, exhaust and actually the cowl flaps. Maybe the landing flaps. The extras in the wheel bay don't add much value. 

I really enjoyed the paint challenge. I'll be using AK Real Color paints more in the future for sure. 
 
This was a fun project overall. Seeing the actual plane as the spark was a great way to kick things off. I learned a tremendous amount about the history of the plane and its restoration. My focus was to depict it during its last month of operation in April 1945. Since it was delivered to JG 26 in late March or early April, it was fairly new, so weathering was light. Apparently it was delivered in a standard RLM 75/76 paint job. It's interesting to speculate how the field unit came up with the non-traditional camo scheme.  It's clear that it was heavily focused on local area ground cover since surviving the relentless allied raids on luftwaffe airfields was key at that time. The rarity of the plane, unique camo scheme, interesting history and challenging build made Franz Götz's Yellow 10 a rewarding project. 

Thanks for following along and enjoy the photos. 
 
Here's one of Franz Götz himself and a few of the plane after it was captured and had its markings painted over. 
 
 
And here's the completed model...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted by Hoss WA on Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:37 PM

Thanks Mike, Treyzx and Lawdog for the comments!

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, October 21, 2019 8:17 PM

Fantastic again, Hoss.

Beautiful work.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Monday, October 21, 2019 8:04 PM

Looking great Hoss , all the extra detailing is paying off big time! My hats off to you for tackling the cowl flaps, been there and its a huge pita! Worth it tho it, really makes the subject pop. Looking forward to the next update!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, October 21, 2019 5:31 PM

Hoss WA

 

 
Compressorman

 

 
lawdog114

beaut!  Good choice on not preshading. It wouldn't have looked right. I have switched to AK myself. I have yet to find a better performing paint. FYI, you can mix Tamiya paints with them if you want to do fading. I did that on my 109 recently and had no issues. I look forward to the finish. 

 

 

 

Thread highjacking in progress:

I have never used these AK paints, I am assuming that they are not water-based acrylics? I am a mission models guy because I like the lower toxicity of water based paints

Chris

 

 

 

Thanks Lawdog!  Thanks also for the tip on mixing Tamiya with AK -- good to know. 

@Compressorman - The AK Real Colors are unfortunately not water-based. The odor is similar to Tamiya acrylics - noticable but not overpowering. I like Mission Models for the same reason you do. However, I think the AK Real Colors spray much better and they make a pretty good case for superb color accuracy. Looks like they've done their homework. 

- Jim

 

AK is lacquer based. I suspect that's why they go down so smooth. Reference the smell, it reminds me a little bit of aqua net hairspray. Perhaps I'm weird, but I don't mind the smell. 

Hoss, I'm glad you find the X-22/MLT useful. It's like magic. I saw some guy on you tube do it so I gave it a try. I can't take credit....Whistling

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hoss WA on Monday, October 21, 2019 2:06 PM

Finally made some more progress on Yellow 10...Big Smile I had to navigate a few bumps in the road. 

When I took a closer look at the decals supplied with the kit, I was unsatisfied with quality. The black horizontal bars were significantly out of register and the color was off, particularly on the yellow 10 itself (a light lemon yellow vs. RLM04). They were unusable from my standpoint. 

I should have looked more closely at these earlier but I didn't think about it. The reviews of the kit stated that the decals were printed by Cartograf so I was not worried. However, the actual decals in my copy of the kit are not Cartograf. So I went ahead and order the Eagle Cal decals for Yellow 10 and waited a few days. 


The Eagle decals overall were fine but tested my patience with the number of Microsol applications. I needed to cut along some panel lines and touch up a few spots with paint, but they came out alright. 

The spirit of this build is "every step is a major project". Consistent with spirit, the spinner required some major work. First, the spinner called out by the kit for the D-13 is incorrect. It's supposed to have a blast tube for a 20mm cannon and it has a huge hole. So I made a blast tube from spare sprue, drilled a hole in the standard D-9 spinner and glued it in. The next problem was that the D-9 spinner has an extra panel line where the D-13 spinner does not. So Mr. Surfacer 500 came to the rescue along with some careful sanding to remove the panel line. After priming, masking and painting, it's looking acceptable.

 

W. Nr. 836017 is in the final stages now. More photos soon. Thanks for following along. 

 

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Posted by Hoss WA on Monday, October 21, 2019 1:57 PM

Compressorman

 

 
lawdog114

beaut!  Good choice on not preshading. It wouldn't have looked right. I have switched to AK myself. I have yet to find a better performing paint. FYI, you can mix Tamiya paints with them if you want to do fading. I did that on my 109 recently and had no issues. I look forward to the finish. 

 

 

 

Thread highjacking in progress:

I have never used these AK paints, I am assuming that they are not water-based acrylics? I am a mission models guy because I like the lower toxicity of water based paints

Chris

 

Thanks Lawdog!  Thanks also for the tip on mixing Tamiya with AK -- good to know. 

@Compressorman - The AK Real Colors are unfortunately not water-based. The odor is similar to Tamiya acrylics - noticable but not overpowering. I like Mission Models for the same reason you do. However, I think the AK Real Colors spray much better and they make a pretty good case for superb color accuracy. Looks like they've done their homework. 

- Jim

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Posted by Compressorman on Monday, October 21, 2019 10:39 AM

lawdog114

beaut!  Good choice on not preshading. It wouldn't have looked right. I have switched to AK myself. I have yet to find a better performing paint. FYI, you can mix Tamiya paints with them if you want to do fading. I did that on my 109 recently and had no issues. I look forward to the finish. 

 

Thread highjacking in progress:

I have never used these AK paints, I am assuming that they are not water-based acrylics? I am a mission models guy because I like the lower toxicity of water based paints

Chris

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, October 21, 2019 4:38 AM

beaut!  Good choice on not preshading. It wouldn't have looked right. I have switched to AK myself. I have yet to find a better performing paint. FYI, you can mix Tamiya paints with them if you want to do fading. I did that on my 109 recently and had no issues. I look forward to the finish. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hoss WA on Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:48 PM

RadMax8

Wow, very impressive work! This is the kind of paint job I don’t have the guts to try. Way to really jump in with two feet!

 

Thanks RadMax! I really appreciate the comments. 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:08 AM

Wow, very impressive work! This is the kind of paint job I don’t have the guts to try. Way to really jump in with two feet!

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, October 14, 2019 8:15 PM

It all comes round, and we all benefit. I've been soaking up info from here almost daily lol.

I love your results. Just love em.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Hoss WA on Monday, October 14, 2019 5:53 PM

M. Brindos

I think I will have to give the X-22 and Mr Leveling thinner a go. Been struggling with gloss cotes for ages now.

Hoss, that scheme is beautifully reproduced. It's certainly an eye opener. Very well done, sir!

Your work continues to seriously impress.

 

 

Thanks Mike! Really appreciate the nice comments. This FSM forum is such a great resource for tips and solutions. I credit lawdog for the X-22 idea (Thanks!).

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, October 14, 2019 2:46 PM

I think I will have to give the X-22 and Mr Leveling thinner a go. Been struggling with gloss cotes for ages now.

Hoss, that scheme is beautifully reproduced. It's certainly an eye opener. Very well done, sir!

Your work continues to seriously impress.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Hoss WA on Monday, October 14, 2019 2:14 PM

Thanks Andy - much appreciated!

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Posted by rooster513 on Monday, October 14, 2019 6:20 AM

Man that is beautiful! Very complicated scheme that you have pulled off wonderfullyYes

-Andy

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Posted by Hoss WA on Monday, October 14, 2019 12:33 AM
Completed main painting and got the gloss coat on this hot rod. I'm happy with the progress so far. 
 
Using AK real colors, I put down RLM 75 and then laid down the complex RLM 82 and RLM 81 (v3) camo pattern. I completed the entire sequence on the wings first then repeated it on the fuselage. I don't trust myself on preventing overspray. I masked out wing walk lines but they are mostly covered by the 81 and 82.
 
 
 
I decided not to preshade panel lines this time, thinking that the complex pattern and color combinations would quickly obscure the shading. There was quite a bit of back and forth between 82 and 81 to clean up the pattern and fix minor issues. Interestingly, this camo pattern consists of interwoven color patches rather than traditional luftwaffe mottles. The pattern called for bold, disruptive shapes and patches rather than the typical faded, fuzzy color clouds.  I followed the Jerry Crandall EagleFiles profile as well as actual 1945 photos as closely as possible. 
 
 
 
The AK real colors spray very nicely. I really like how thin and smooth the layers of paint are. Much more so than Mission Models. I used AK real colors thinner and kept the thinning ratio from 1:1 to 2:1 thinner to paint. My compressor pressure was ~15-18 psi for the base coat layers and 25 psi for the fine line detail to minimize spattering. There were no real issues at all with the AK paints. 
 
 
As for markings so far, I used the Montex mask set intended for the Tamiya D-9. The wing crosses and the HakenKreuz on the tail were fine, but the fuselage cross mask was about 2mm too small. So I used tape to make my own mask for the black fuselage cross. The RV band and white stripe on the tail came out nicely. I used Mission Models paint for these. This was my first time using the Montex masks and I really liked them. This eliminates the entire decal silvering and visible film problems, especially with the broken crosses in the late war luftwaffe planes. I will have to use decals for the maintenance stencils and the yellow 10. 
 
 
 
I also started some of the weathering process by adding some chips and scratches with lightened versions of the base colors. 
 
 
The key command decision was to forego the Mission Models gloss clear and try Tamiya X-22 clear. What a game-changer! I sprayed Tamiya X-22 with 50% Mr. Color leveling thinner and then immediately afterwards laid down a coat of 100% thinner. The result is absolutely amazing - thin, high gloss, dry to touch within 1 hour.  I've been struggling for a while to find the right gloss coat and this is it!  Highly recommended. I was really debating about whether to stick with the Mission models gloss or try X-22 -- it's a no brainer. 
 
 
 
 
Decals are next. Thanks for following along.
 
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Posted by Hoss WA on Monday, October 14, 2019 12:19 AM

Josh_the_painter

Coming along well! How did you find the montex masks to be?

Josh

 

Hi Josh: I used the Montex masks intended for the Tamiya 1/48 D-9 and they worked great. The fuselage crosses were not the correct size so I improvised my own masks for these. I'm a fan of masks, particulary when there's lots of clear decal film, such as on these late war luftwaffe plans. I suppose I can cut the film away, but then there are alignment and thickness issues to deal with. Photos are in the next update coming soon. 

-Jim

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Posted by Josh_the_painter on Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:07 AM

Coming along well! How did you find the montex masks to be?

Josh

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Posted by Hoss WA on Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:35 PM

The warpaint is starting to go on and it's slowly coming to life...

I started with the white patches for the wing cross masks and RV band. 

Then, using the EagleFiles reference, I painted the metal underside with Mission Models aluminum, chrome and silver, with a little cold rolled steel, varying the shades on different panels.

Then I masked the white portion of the RV band (I'll do the black after camo) and placed the Montex masks on wings. As this is the first time using masks for markings, I wasn't sure of the best way to do this: (a) white patch, place mask, paint camo, remove mask; or (b) paint camo, place mask, paint white, remove mask. We'll see how this turns out.

Painted RLM 76 on underside and sides of fuselage using AK real colors.

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Posted by Hoss WA on Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:11 PM

Thanks Madness!

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:04 AM

Lookin great Hoss!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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Posted by Hoss WA on Wednesday, October 9, 2019 12:40 AM

Finally finished this build and now it's ready for painting.  This is definitely the most challenging build I've done to date.  The tricky base kit plus all the AM PE really adds complexity. 

My goal is to faithfully reproduce the plane as it was during combat operations in April 1945. Some of the "above and beyond" items:

  • Adding a better scale blast tube to the spinner. Yellow 10 had a 20mm cannon through the spinner and the kit parts don't look even close to the reference photos. 
  • Attaching the cowl flaps was like marching through hell. What a learning curve. Took me three tries before I got them respectable. 
  • The entire flap installation process is a pain, but the wooden flaps are a standout feature of the aircraft and I thought they were essential. 
  • The tail wheel has a whitewall tire. I used Tamiya flexible masking tape cut into thin strips to achieve the effect. (photos coming)
  • Quickboost resin supercharger intake. Installation turned into a saga since it didn't fit correctly. 
  • Quickboost resin exhaust stacks. No drama here and I think they look much better than the kit parts. 
  • Added a PE ring around the gun camera port since the molded feature looked weak. 

Here's the supercharger intake. The AM part is very different from the kit part and looks much closer to the reference photos. 

The PE cockpit deck is very detailed, fits perfectly and looks great. 

Here's the gun camera port ring. This was a good mini project. I think this could be be a good AM offering and am surprised that Eduard ignores this detail, both in the base kit and as an AM offering. It's very noticable on the real aircraft and looks indistinct as molded. 

Hat's off to all the PE cowl flap veterans. What an ordeal. Gator's Grip Hobby Glue was the gamechanger for me on this. First time I've used this stuff. I couldn't imagine doing this with superglue. Gator's Grip is just tacky enough for the parts to stick, dries quickly, is strong and cleans up with water. Highly recommended. 

Here's the cockpit deck and windscreen with RLM 66 applied.

Priming complete. There was quite a bit of clean up after the first priming session. Many  flaws became evident with all the surgery and PE attachments. Glue blobs around the cowl flaps, sprue gate nubs not completely sanded, panel lines that needed rescribing, standard stuff. 

Several times during the build I wondered whether all the extra AM effort has been worth it. I'm certainly right at the envelope of my building skills. It's sometimes frustrating dealing with an unexpected issue, but at the same time it's really rewarding when I can successfully execute a creative solution. 

Now on to painting...Thanks for following along. 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, October 6, 2019 12:09 AM
Looking great. That's a common issue with Eduard's color PE. The color tends to be way off.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hoss WA on Saturday, October 5, 2019 10:06 PM

Latest update:

I worked through the wings with the extra wheel well detail and the flaps. The Eduard detail kit has panels that line the vertical wheel well surfaces as well as some cable harnesses. I also added the Master cannon kit since the base kit doesn't have the cannon holes opened. After adding the PE panels and whatnot, I think the wheel well detail kit (lots of work) is about on par with the current generation FW 190 Eduard kits. I'm not sure it's worth the effort but it looks OK. There's still some clean up work to do that I'll take care of in future steps. 

As for the flaps, I like the add-on. There's lots of sanding and filing to remove the molded flaps and create space in the wing tops and bottoms, but the flap well and the flaps themselves look good. I've tried to create a natural wood effect and have a few more steps to do.

The wings actually mated with the fuselage very well given all the work on the wings. I needed a little spacer under the cockpit to align the wing roots, but no major gaps. I'm actually impressed how well everything fits together. Lots of dry fitting, sanding, re-checking, etc. with this kit.

With all the extra add-ons, this kit is like hacking through a jungle of thick underbrush with a machete compared to the more refined kits I've done recently. 

Next up is the PE cowl flap assembly -- another photoetch adventure. 

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