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O1/L-19 Cessna Bird Dog- painted

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
O1/L-19 Cessna Bird Dog- painted
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 4:27 PM

I'm ready to start the Roden 1:32 Bird Dog.  The instructions call for the Air Force version to have a natural metal finish.  All of the pictures I see of AF planes show the plane as light gray, with the only NMF plane a foreign air force.  Anyone know if USAF O1s were ever natural aluminum?  I am planning to do it in the light gray unless there were a lot of them natural.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by jmoran426 on Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:50 AM
The US Air Force inherited most of it's L-19s from the US Army and a few from the US Marines. Probably all of them had been previously painted in some shade of green. When repainting a metal airplane, it was common to strip off the old paint and start with a clean surface. In the case of the USAF L-19s, most were repainted in the light camouflage grey overall, with black anti-glare surfaces in front of the windshield.

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Posted by Jay Jay on Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:09 AM

I was looking at this kit just yesterday.  I'll be following along for sure to see how this one builds in your capable hands.

 

 

 

 

 

 I'm finally retired. Now time I got, money I don't.

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Posted by fotofrank on Wednesday, October 2, 2019 9:18 AM

There's a fellow in our club whose father flew O-1s in Vietnam. He's building five of these kits for family members! He says it's not at easy build, but he's pressing on to complete the builds. He says the biggest issue is that if there are alignment pins, they don't match up. Looking forward to your build, Don. All of your work is excellent.

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Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, October 2, 2019 1:25 PM

I went to Google and looked at "images" of this plane. The only plane with a NMF looks like it is in a museum. The Air Force versions seem to be painted a light gray.

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Posted by seastallion53 on Thursday, October 3, 2019 8:38 AM

The landing gear is very weak,get some AM metal gear if not already aquired.

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Posted by rangerj on Friday, October 4, 2019 10:06 AM

Look into ADC grey FS16473

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, October 4, 2019 2:25 PM

The engine is a little gem. 

I still need to put plug wiring, and some plumbing, on.

 

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:30 PM

Got a little more on the engine done- not quite finished though.

 

 

 

 

The pedestal that the front seat sits on is quite a structure, but it went together fine.

Working on the instrument panel.  I drilled out the instrument holes, then scanned the back of the panel and created a graphic with some instrument images I collected awhile ago online.  Put the graphics located behind the holes, printed it out and glued to back of panel.  Put some of that window glaze stuff over the instrument holes from the front.  Have some paint glitches I am working on.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:07 AM

Was test fitting the wing top to the fuselage and found a problem.  There are ribs at the inboard edge of each wing.  They extend a slight bit further aft than a locating post.  That slight extension prevents proper fit.  I have cut those areas back to the locating post to get the fit right.

If you have the kit, be sure to check the fit in this area before trying to glue the wing in place.

The kit instructions say to glue the bottom pieces on before gluing the wing on.  I am glad I checked the fit of the top piece on before gluing together the bottom wing sections. It would be very difficult to trim that rib if the bottom panels were in place.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, October 10, 2019 11:23 AM

Nice looking engine.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, October 11, 2019 12:57 PM

JohnnyK

Nice looking engine.

 

I'm going to glue one cowl panel in the open position so it can be seen.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:24 AM

Got the fuselage together, and the rest of the belts.

Got the wing glued on last night, but don't know how well it turned out.  Photos maybe tomorrow.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by fotofrank on Sunday, October 13, 2019 3:32 PM

Don, did you mask the windows before you glued them in?

Are you using an aftermarket mask?

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Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, October 14, 2019 8:41 AM

fotofrank

Don, did you mask the windows before you glued them in?

Are you using an aftermarket mask?

 

On the side and top windows, yes, I taped them before they were glued in, both inside and out.  I then removed the inside masking before I glued the fuselage together.  The windows have nice framing indentations molded in, so it is easy to cut the masking tape to good shape.  I don't know if precut masks are even available.

I may mask the windshield and rear window after I glue them in.  At that point the fuselage will be sealed, and I don't need to mask the inside and there is no framing or rear window and only a simple single strip in the middle of the windshield.

BTW, I am not gluing the door and door window before I paint.  I want to have the door open when finished, so the door and door window are now held in by thin strips of masking tape.  When I am done painting a believe I can just push in on those parts to take them off when I am  finished.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, October 14, 2019 4:13 PM

Here is the assembly with wing mounted.

 

I'll be putting on the windshield and rear window tomorrow.adding ailerons and flaps today. Instructions call for adding the hinges to the flaps before gluing the flaps in place.  I found it very hard to mount the hinges in excatly the perfect angle.  I found it easier to glue the flaps on with slow CA and check the alignment as the glue hardens, and then glue the hinges on.  The dimple on the hinges does not hold it at the right angle very well.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:10 AM

Got the wing and tail surfaces on, and did some prime and seam/gap filling.  Fuselage seem did not take too much effort.  But there were major sink marks/lines at the trailing edges of both wings.  This photo is after the first application of putty, sanding and priming.  These sinks were pretty deep.  Did more putty, sanding and priming last night.  Hope it looks better this morning.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by fotofrank on Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:34 PM

That Bondo is good stuff. Wet sands really nice.

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Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, October 28, 2019 12:14 PM

Got the final coat- I hope- of the gray paint done.  Sorry the shot is so dark and lacks depth of field.  Camera is goofing up.  I usually shoot models aperture priority but it turned out really dark.  Tried general settings (completely auto).  Was lighter, but of course the area being dark, it opened aperture way up.  Maybe something wrong with my flash unit.

 

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, November 1, 2019 9:08 AM

I started applying the decals.  Problematic.  The ink seems to be lifting off the decals when they are wet- the decal film does not break (although a bit of that too), but if you touch the printing/graphics with any tool the ink flakes off.  I am having to touch only the carrier film surrounding the printing/graphics

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, November 1, 2019 9:32 AM
Looks great Don

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