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1:24 Airfix Grumman F6F-5 Hellcat - Finished

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1:24 Airfix Grumman F6F-5 Hellcat - Finished
Posted by Tubosteve on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 6:07 AM

So, my latest adventure into the wonderful hobby of model building.

The new Airfix 1:24 F6F-5 Hellcat:

 

Going to be doing it in the "Operation SUNFISH" scheme, just because I think the other schemes look less interesting, just being blue Wink

 

As usual, I just dived straight in without thought of photos and have only now thought to take any!  This is being built OTB with the exception of the guns. Bought a replacement brass set (tho can't remember who from!)

The cockpit, fuse and wings went together without many problems. Only issue I faced was when I joined the fuse and wings together and found the fuse was slightly larger than the gap in the wings! No doubt an oversight on my part, but nothing some sanding couldn't fix. 

 Bit of overspray in the cockpit where I got carried away with the rattle can :)

 

Have now just finished up the engine, added the extra detail with 0.7mm copper wire as suggested in the intructions..............question, what colour should the copper hoses be? Black??  Thinking I might leave it copper colour to give a bit of 'character'.

 

Thats it for now.............more to come..............thinking I have lots of 'free time' due to the current corona situation

Stay safe out there.

 

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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Posted by mississippivol on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 6:33 AM
Man, that's looking really good!
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Posted by Tubosteve on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 6:45 PM

So, another day spent on the engine, finally got all the exhausts on. This is really fiddly, especially since the ignition wires have been added (I think if these had not been added the exhausts would have been much easier). By trial and error I found the easiest way was to fit each 'pack' of exhausts in pieces and then glue together once I got them in place. The first 'set' I assembled the pieces together (some of the exhausts are 2 piece) and then had a devil of a time to get them in place!

Anyways, here's how she looks just now...........

 

 

 

 

 

 

As always, comments and critique welcome.

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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Posted by Wingman_kz on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:40 PM
That's looking good. You're doing some nice work. I'm stuck on the starboard wing. It's amazing how so many parts can fit together so precisely in one half of an assembly and the other half doesn't want to fit at all. Lol. On the bright side, the port wing fits fairly well. Like you, I have some extra time now.

            

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Posted by Tubosteve on Saturday, March 21, 2020 4:30 PM

More progress today, got the engine and other related parts fitted, outer panels to follow after dirtying the engine up a bit more. Undecided on whether to leave some or all of the panels off else I'm gonna end up covering a beautiful (in my opinion) engine.

Comments / critique always welcome...........it's how we improve.

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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Posted by Tubosteve on Monday, March 23, 2020 6:33 AM
Can anyone suggest the best glue (type) to enable me to 'temporarily glue' the engine panels in place for paining, but be able to remove some/all the panels afterwards without damaging the underlying paint. Thanks

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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Posted by Wingman_kz on Monday, March 23, 2020 8:53 AM
I've used Microscale Liquitape before. It was ok but not perfect. You apply it to one side and allow it to dry then put the parts together. Sometimes it was too sticky and made it difficult to get the parts apart and sometimes the little blob of glue would transfer to the other part. I seem to remember it leaving a residue and being difficult to remove if you didn't want to use it anymore. It's been a long time since I used it though and I may not have used it correctly.

            

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Posted by Tubosteve on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 1:27 PM

So, I finally took the plunge with this model and have tried pre-shading.

For those brave souls who have gone before me could I please have a little feedback on how it's looking..........I think it looks ok (but the wife thinks it doesn't....but what does she know...lol) If figure if it's not so good then I can just go heavier and cover it all up!

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 1:34 PM

Generally it looks good.

I would not have treated the control surfaces that way, as they were all fabric covered except for the short flaps on the stub wings. Or maybe go the other way and post shade the spaces in between the ribs.

 

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Posted by Tubosteve on Sunday, March 29, 2020 11:06 AM

So, I have continued some more in my first ever attempt at pre-shading. Following on from advise in a nother thread I have sprayed the grey, and with great care in masking, started on the second color. Think it looks reasonably OK..........what do you guys think?

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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Posted by Wingman_kz on Sunday, March 29, 2020 2:13 PM
Looks pretty darn good to me. I'd never know it's your first try at this if you hadn't said so. I like this camo. Good choice.

            

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, March 30, 2020 11:45 AM

Love the engine! Agree with you I wouldn't want to cover it up.

Did you find a way to hold those panels on? I ve used the liquid tape before with similar results, sometimes it sticks too well. I have used blue tack, poster putty before. It works ok if you aren't turning the model upside down. A little risky in that case.

in terms of preshading, my observation has been that the camera doesn't pick up the contrast real well. If that's the case with your pics Iwould think the underside is a tad on the light side. The top looks good to my eye. All said in the interest of sharing opinions. Weathering tends to be not only an eye of the beholder thing in my book, but also dependent on real pictures that you might be using. Sometimes people don't like the look but the modeler did a stellar job of simulating a real plane or ship or car. Hope this helps Smile

In the pattern: Lots in my stash. Can't decide if that 1/350 Enterprise I started a few years ago should be next or not...it is last model on my SOD.

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Posted by Tubosteve on Monday, March 30, 2020 3:35 PM

So, she is finally wearing her colors. Gonna pop her in the airing cupboard for the night, then tomorrow she will get her clear-coat...........Alclad II Klear Kote Gloss ALC-310.

    

 

Looking at photos just reminded me that there is a little more white paintwork to be done on the front cowling............just realised!   Best not forget tomorrow.

@TheMongoose, thanks for the kind words. Pannels have been temp held on with liquid mask, seems to do the trick. As regards using photos, I tend just do things that look about right to my eye. I greatly admire people who use many references to produce 'authentic' models...........but that's just not my thing. Maybe one day Hmm

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 1:44 AM

Outstanding Steve.  I think your preshading looks quite good.  Those MRP paints certainly spray nice, but I hate how glossy they are. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Tubosteve on Thursday, April 2, 2020 6:15 PM

lawdog114

Those MRP paints certainly spray nice, but I hate how glossy they are. 

 

Thanks Lawdog, high praise coming from you, I have been mightily impressed by your work.

I agree with you on the MRP paints, they are too glossy..........but, they most certainly spray well straight out of the bottle (used the MRP for the underside and green top side). I found them to be much more 'controlable' WRT the underlying pre-shade. However, a clear coat seems to have evened things out. Just started this evening on the decals, no photos yet. Another clear coat after decals then a little more weathering and then gonna try my first ever car! Just like many, many others....I find I have a lot of time on my hands just now as we/I am house-bound due to the current situation.

I am pretty happy with how my first attempt at pre-shading went, got a little 'heavy-handed' in a few spots, but hey.....this is a learning process. If you don't try then you will never learn :)

In hindsight, maybe I should have tried this on a cheap model first instead of ths one which ran at about £130 (more like £150 with paint!)

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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Posted by Tubosteve on Friday, April 3, 2020 4:43 PM

So, here she is.....all decaled up and painted. Still needs another clear coat to seal the decals and then some weathering and then the final assembly of flaps, undercarriage, panels etc.

Appreciate any final comments before I seal this up completely.

 

One question, I got carried away in the early steps and drilled the holes for the 5 inch HVAR's (3 per side), but now when I find myself at the end I note that the HVAR's do not seem to appear on the FAA scheme I am doing!  Does any kind soul know if the FAA version would ever have had these HVAR's or am I going to have to fill the holes back up?? Thanksin advance for any info.

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

  • Member since
    January 2015
Posted by TheMongoose on Friday, April 3, 2020 7:26 PM

Oh that looks pretty! Love it.

In the pattern: Lots in my stash. Can't decide if that 1/350 Enterprise I started a few years ago should be next or not...it is last model on my SOD.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, April 4, 2020 2:39 AM

Wow this thing is turning out great.I really have to get me one of these.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Tubosteve on Saturday, April 4, 2020 4:55 AM

TheMongoose

Oh that looks pretty! Love it.

 

 

Thanks Mongoose

lawdog114

Wow this thing is turning out great.I really have to get me one of these.

 

Lawdog...........thanks for your kind words.The kit goes together very nicely and I've only needed a little bit of filler. That said, you do have to follow the instructions carefully......very carefully!  The only real issue I had was making the two fuse halves join, the cockpit was slightly too wide so a little filling was needed to  make it a little 'not-so-wide' 

My kit is OTB with the exception of some brass gun barrels, tho to be honest, now everything is closed up I wish I hadn't bothered and just gone with the kit ones, guess it depends if you want to leave the ammo covers off or not.

 

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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  • From: Hampshire, England, UK
Posted by Tubosteve on Sunday, April 5, 2020 12:05 PM

A fruitful weekend, got this finished up Big Smile

All the 'bits'n'bobs' got added, flaps, undercarriage, ordinance, antennas and pitot (have lean't that they get added very last thing else I always end up snapping them off no matter how careful I try to be!)

Overall, very happy with the way it's turned out. Built up easily with no major fit issues, very little filler was used throughout the build and personnally, I'm very happy with my first pre-shade model.

Enjoy:

 

As always, comments and critique most welcome, it's how we know if what we are doing is good or not (and where to improve)

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, April 5, 2020 12:24 PM

Nicely done.  Have one on the shelf and nice to hear you didn't run into the issues that snapdragon is having.  Don't know yet how much aftermarket to add, as there are still goodies coming out.

Again, nice job.

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, April 5, 2020 12:37 PM

First off, thanks for sharing this WIP with us. I've wondered about this kit and it was very nice to be able to watch a well-done job and learn a little about what the big kit is all about.

Great work! YesYesYes

-Greg

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, April 5, 2020 9:56 PM

That turned out beautiful. Now I have to get this kit. Thank you for taking us along.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Sunday, April 5, 2020 10:17 PM

I love that livery!

Chad

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Monday, April 6, 2020 6:35 AM

very nice job there.

The HVAR rockets were not used on FAA aircraft. instead an adaptation was done so standard UK rockets could be used. Also, the hard points for bombs were adapted so standard UK ordnance up to 1000lb could be carried.

Airfix didn't think that this option(s) would be needed.

Take a look here.

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235046552-faa-hellcat-info-needed/

Most Hellcats seem to be CAP with just the guns. The one I am doing certainly was. Just have to decide about D-Day Stripes or not

 

https://topnotch-success.net/vinyl-masks/insignia/royal-navy/hellcat-i-faa-800-sqn-lt-blythe-ritchie-insignia-masks/

https://topnotch-success.net/vinyl-masks/camouflage/royal-navy/grumman-hellcat-faa-vinyl-camo-mask/

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, April 6, 2020 10:14 AM

Great looking kit, and you should be well proud of your results.  Yes

Was wondering though, was it a deliberate decsion on your part to go with what looks to be an RAF day fighter colour scheme topside, instead of the naval colours of the FAA (Extra Dark Sea Grey and Dark Slate Grey)?

 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Tubosteve on Monday, April 6, 2020 5:33 PM

jgeratic

Great looking kit, and you should be well proud of your results.  Yes

Was wondering though, was it a deliberate decsion on your part to go with what looks to be an RAF day fighter colour scheme topside, instead of the naval colours of the FAA (Extra Dark Sea Grey and Dark Slate Grey)?

 

regards,

Jack

 

 

Thanks for the kind words. 

As regards colors, (based on a seperate question in another post and a reply from Stikpusher) I looked at https://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/urbans-color-reference-charts-part-i/urbans-colour-reference-charts-united-kingdom/ and came up with this:

    

Went with the FS numbers so figured they would be correct Tongue Tied Either way, I'm happy with how it turned out...........even if it may not be historically correct.

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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Posted by Tubosteve on Monday, April 6, 2020 5:34 PM

Mopar Madness

I love that livery!

 

Cheers Mopar, was a fun and reasonably painless build.

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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  • From: Hampshire, England, UK
Posted by Tubosteve on Monday, April 6, 2020 5:35 PM

lawdog114

That turned out beautiful. Now I have to get this kit. Thank you for taking us along.

 

Thanks Lawdog, you really should lay your hands on one. Not a cheap kit to be sure, but a good 'un!

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

  • Member since
    February 2017
  • From: Hampshire, England, UK
Posted by Tubosteve on Monday, April 6, 2020 5:40 PM

snapdragonxxx

very nice job there.

The HVAR rockets were not used on FAA aircraft. instead an adaptation was done so standard UK rockets could be used. Also, the hard points for bombs were adapted so standard UK ordnance up to 1000lb could be carried.

Airfix didn't think that this option(s) would be needed.

Take a look here.

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235046552-faa-hellcat-info-needed/

Most Hellcats seem to be CAP with just the guns. The one I am doing certainly was. Just have to decide about D-Day Stripes or not

 

https://topnotch-success.net/vinyl-masks/insignia/royal-navy/hellcat-i-faa-800-sqn-lt-blythe-ritchie-insignia-masks/

https://topnotch-success.net/vinyl-masks/camouflage/royal-navy/grumman-hellcat-faa-vinyl-camo-mask/

 

 

Thanks for your kind words. 

WRT to the rockets, got this from someone on Britmodeller when they pointed out that the kit rockets were not correct for FAA build.

Steve

It's easy to fly, just jump and miss the floor :)

 

Currently on the bench: Airfix 1:24 Gruman F6F-5 Hellcat (A19004) 

 

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