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1/48 Eduard Bf 109 E-4 II/LG2 "Herbert Ihlefeld" (Finished)

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1/48 Eduard Bf 109 E-4 II/LG2 "Herbert Ihlefeld" (Finished)
Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:39 AM

I figured I'd share what I've been up to for the last few weeks or so.  This is one of two Emils I have been building in 1/48, one Tamiya and the other Eduard.  I figured when I was done I'd offer which of the two I liked better, perhaps the pros and cons of each.  This is the Eduard one.

I have a book that's remanded to my bathroom (where most of my productive reading is done) called "Dogfights".  It outlines, in detail, machines that commonly fought each other, to include profiles of some of aces that flew them.  It's a really cool book that was the direct inspiration for my Bob Doe Spitfire MK. I and Gunter Landt's BF109 K-4 I built recently.  I'm drawing inspiration from the book once again to build Herbert Ihlefeld's Bf 109 E-4 from II/LG 2 during the Battle of Britain.  His striking Emil is here on page 25 from the chapter that pits the Spitfire MK. I against the BF 109 E during the Battle of Britain (also where Doe's savviness in the Spitfire was discussed). Aside from the sweet,eye catching scheme, Ihlefeld was the leading Spitfire killer with 15 downed during the battle. 

Another great rendering of Ihlefeld's "Black 1". 

I've built the Eduard kit before but it's been quite a while (Pips Priller's machine).  I remember the kit was beautifully detailed but the fit was finicky in the cowl area.  I was definitely curious to whether I'd have the same issues.

I started with the pit.  Like their Hellcat, I found it to be somewhat average but the included PE dresses it up quite well.  I sprayed it AK Real Color RLM 02 as per pre November 1941 requirement and gave it "the business". You need to build "some" of the engine even if you don't intend to display the cowl open, presumably because of the exhaust stubs.  The instructions give the proper guidance here.  I kept it simple.

 

I had no issues at all this time around.  Everything fit great. I suspect it was because I assembled the fuselage then slipped the pit up from underneath.  It pretty much clicked in there. Awesome rivet detail here, just like their 110 series.  I preshaded it....

In no time I was here. Ready for Montex.  

After I sprayed all insignias and added the Montex masks, I sprayed that nose.  I used XF-3 Yellow with a touch of XF-7 Red added.  A real quick crude pic...

I taped this area off and fired down the RLM 65, which was half XF-23 Light Blue and half XF-2 White.  I did some serious marbling and fading with the reverse basing technique.  When finished, I went back over the panel lines with straight 65.  I like the effect and less time consuming than black basing.

Next I fired down AK Real Colors RLM 02.  I used the same marbling/fading technique by adding XF-2 white. I'm on the fence with AK's rendition of 02.  It seemed a bit green to me. 

Here's where Ihlefeld's scheme gets a bit tricky.  I couldn't find any real pics of this plane, so I had to trust the profile pic in the book.  I surmised that it originally had the standard RLM 02/71 over 65 splinter camo for Battle of Britain Emils, however, not unlike Pips Priller's machine, it got field modified to difuse the hard splinter wing pattern.  It seems Ihlefeld's got softened in a similar manner too.  I used Blue Tac worms to mask it off to simulate this.  It had more 71 mottling on the fuselage, almost all green with a touch of 65 peeking through.  I used AK Real Colors RLM 71 to do this.  I thought their 71 looked good to my eye, green with a touch of brown.  I added some XF-57 Buff to fade it up a bit.  Here's the results after all masking was removed. The Montex performed great. 

 

I did some post shading with a mix of XF-69 NATO Black and XF-64 Red Brown heavily diluted with alcohol.  More black was added and I fired in the the exhaust stains.

 

I dirtied up the belly too.

I just gloss coated it and should get to decaling soon.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:42 AM

I would say great start, but you're already 80% done!

Like you, I find the yellow nose striking. Great work so far, looking forward to seeing how your comparison fares. 

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, July 30, 2020 11:00 AM

RadMax8
I would say great start, but you're already 80% done!

Ha! +1

I don't recall seeing you build and Eduard anything, let alone a 190. Looking good, thanks for the WIP. Nice paint job. Geez, your look good even before the decals.

Did you follow up on your cowl fit comment now that it's installed and I missed it? Mine were finicky on the two I've built so far.

-Greg

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Thursday, July 30, 2020 8:01 PM

Well heck LD, you're already almost there!  You can see the finish line!

Chad

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At the plate: 1/144 Revell Snowberry

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya Fw 190A4

In the hole: 1/48 Hasegawa Fw 190A4

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:21 PM

Love the yellow nosed 109s. Great job so far.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 31, 2020 1:10 AM

RadMax8

I would say great start, but you're already 80% done!

Like you, I find the yellow nose striking. Great work so far, looking forward to seeing how your comparison fares. 

 

Thanks Max.  Yeah, but there's only a 10% chance of that....lol.  I like the yellow nosers too.  There's an F I want to do if I can ever find the decals for it.  I hope your doing well.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 31, 2020 1:21 AM

Greg

 

 
RadMax8
I would say great start, but you're already 80% done!

 

Ha! +1

I don't recall seeing you build and Eduard anything, let alone a 190. Looking good, thanks for the WIP. Nice paint job. Geez, your look good even before the decals.

Did you follow up on your cowl fit comment now that it's installed and I missed it? Mine were finicky on the two I've built so far.

 

Thanks Greg.  I've built several Eduard kits, most recently a Hellcat, two 110s and a 190 A-4.  some are better than others.  110s were tough, but this, the hellcat, and the 190 were quite easy. 

For the cowl fit, don't forget to slice off the gun attachment pieces that stick up and sand down the front of the engine block.  I think I forgot to do that last time.   

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 31, 2020 1:21 AM

Mopar Madness

Well heck LD, you're already almost there!  You can see the finish line!

 

Thanks Chad. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 31, 2020 1:23 AM

Aggieman

Love the yellow nosed 109s. Great job so far.

 

Me too.  Thanks Aggie. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 1:18 AM

Gonna go with done on this turkey.  To recap, it's in the LG2 markings of Herbert Ihlefeld from September of 1940 during the Battle of Britain.  Ihlefeld was the leading Spitfire killer with 15 confirmed during the battle, most of them in this machine. 

As I said, I built this in tandem with the older Tamiya kit and figured I would offer my unbiased comparison.  Both kits are excellent and the Tamiya kit pretty much built itself the engineering was that good.  That said, I'd have to give the overall nod to the Eduard kit, mostly due to the stunning surface detail and their Profipack kits give you just about everything you need right in the box.  The Tamiya kit is somewhat basic and you need to buy extras. 

I must admit, now that it's finshed, the AK RLM colors are ok to my eye.  My only addition to what came in the box were Ultracast Wheels, but only because I had them in the stash. I did pipe the landing gears and added aerial wire by "Uschi Rig That Thing .005", which has made my life much easier in the rigging department lately.  I continue to experiment with the AK enamel washes.  That Eduard rivet detail really came alive under these color specific washes.  I was going for a somewhat used look and wanted the nose a bit dirty, as I figured Ihlefeld had put this turkey to some use.  I think the oils achieve this better than my old Flory.  Thanks about it.  I have their F-2 on the way and I look forward to digging into that one too.     

       

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Posted by Hoss WA on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 2:05 PM

Another beautiful finish. Great subject. Congrats!

I also went back and forth on the AK version of RLM02. It looks fine with this scheme IMO. I'll have to take a crack at the Tamiya kit. 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 2:23 PM

It's a beauty, Joe!

John

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Posted by Tubosteve on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:37 PM

A wonderful job there Lawdog, looks stunning. Love the base it's on, did you make it yourself or is it shop bought?

Stay safe........Steve

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 7:05 PM

My that's a purty Emil.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:15 AM

Hoss WA

Another beautiful finish. Great subject. Congrats!

I also went back and forth on the AK version of RLM02. It looks fine with this scheme IMO. I'll have to take a crack at the Tamiya kit. 

 

Thanks Hoss

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:16 AM

jeaton01

It's a beauty, Joe!

 

Thanks John

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:19 AM

Tubosteve

A wonderful job there Lawdog, looks stunning. Love the base it's on, did you make it yourself or is it shop bought?

 

Thanks Steve.  Actually one of the guys I regularly build for makes them andhe gave it to me.  Indeed they are quite nice.  I need to have him make me more of them.  

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:20 AM

Aggieman

My that's a purty Emil.

 

Thanks Aggie

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 7:22 AM

That turned out well, Joe.

Thanks for getting back to me on my cowl fit question. Was interesting to hear your thoughts comparing the Eduard vs Tamiya as I've often wondered myself.

I'm not surprised at your conclusion. I like Eduard for the nice surface detail and also the complete-ness of the profi-packs too. I was sort of surprised though that you specifically mentioned the two things about Eduard 190's that I like so much specifically, though.

Question: I plan on trying AK enamel washes too. I'm not familiar with the AK paints you used. What are they (lacquer, acrylic, enamel) and did you put down a barrier coat prior to the AK enamel wash and if so, what did you use?

-Greg

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:11 PM
Poof and it's done

 

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 11:53 PM

LD, You're just gonna have to slow down and let the rest of us catch up! I love this 109!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/144 Revell Snowberry

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya Fw 190A4

In the hole: 1/48 Hasegawa Fw 190A4

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, August 9, 2020 10:58 PM

Greg

That turned out well, Joe.

Thanks for getting back to me on my cowl fit question. Was interesting to hear your thoughts comparing the Eduard vs Tamiya as I've often wondered myself.

I'm not surprised at your conclusion. I like Eduard for the nice surface detail and also the complete-ness of the profi-packs too. I was sort of surprised though that you specifically mentioned the two things about Eduard 190's that I like so much specifically, though.

Question: I plan on trying AK enamel washes too. I'm not familiar with the AK paints you used. What are they (lacquer, acrylic, enamel) and did you put down a barrier coat prior to the AK enamel wash and if so, what did you use?

 

No problem Greg. Sorry I haven't gotten back to you until now. I have a new email address and I can't figure out how to update it on this forum, so I don't get notifications when replies are made to the thread. I have to just check in periodically. Anyways, the AK stuff is apparently an acrylic lacquer hybrid.  It goes down nice and smooth and you can use their thinner or alcohol to thin it. I no longer have pebbling issues with this paint as you get sometimes with Tamiya. My gloss coat is acrylic, consisting of X-22 Tamiya gloss clear mixed with Mr. Leveling Thinner, about 50/50. My weathering is a AK paneliners Which are enamel-based.I'm starting to like them more than the Flory stuff. 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, August 10, 2020 7:54 AM

lawdog114
No problem Greg. Sorry I haven't gotten back to you until now. I have a new email address and I can't figure out how to update it on this forum, so I don't get notifications when replies are made to the thread. I have to just check in periodically. Anyways, the AK stuff is apparently an acrylic lacquer hybrid. It goes down nice and smooth and you can use their thinner or alcohol to thin it. I no longer have pebbling issues with this paint as you get sometimes with Tamiya. My gloss coat is acrylic, consisting of X-22 Tamiya gloss clear mixed with Mr. Leveling Thinner, about 50/50. My weathering is a AK paneliners Which are enamel-based.I'm starting to like them more than the Flory stuff.

Awesome feedback. Bow Down

You and I have been Flory wash fans for a lone time. I've been looking for enamal washes, I don't seem to do well making them myself. I am going to try the Flory.

Also, very timely on your clearcoat tips. I just tried X-22 mixed with MLT yesterday for the first time. Went down awful but later it surprised me by smoothing out quite a bit. (maybe that's the 'leveling' in MLT (duh)). But I was way shy of 50/50 so I'm going to try again today. I'm really on the hunt for a reliable acrylic clear. I thought I'd found the answer in Alclad Aqua but not so sure anymore.

Glad you're liking the AK acrylic lacquers. I just started using some MRP acrylic lacquers, I'm liking them.

Thank you, Joe.

-Greg

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Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, August 10, 2020 9:24 AM

Beautifully done 

  

Nick.

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Posted by bvallot on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 4:10 PM

Fantastic as always Joe!

"Uschi Rig That Thing" ??? Could there be anything better than EZ line out there?! What's this stuff all about?

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