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1/48 Tamiya Bf-109 E-7 Trop JG27 "Werner Schroer" (Finished)

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1/48 Tamiya Bf-109 E-7 Trop JG27 "Werner Schroer" (Finished)
Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, July 30, 2020 3:00 AM

I'm building the Tamiya Emil in conjunction with the Eduard kit.  Me and the Tamiya Emil are old friends, but it's been many years since I've built it. I'm curious to see how this twenty plus year old kit stacks up to the newer Eduard one.  Let's find out.

I'll be doing a desert tropical scheme, a first for me with the 109 (I did a Storch a few years ago...yikes!).  Decals for Trop versions are scarce, so I'm going with the in-box option of JG 27 Werner Schroer's "Black 8", a fairly well known subject out of Lybia in 1941.  Schroer's final score was 114 enemy aircraft.  I always liked this photo which is in every 109 book I have ever seen.

A pretty nice profile pic here.

As I said, me and this kit are old friends. Their E-3 was one of the first kits I built when I returned to the hobby and it was fairly new tooling then. I remember it being easy to build and affirmed that I could competently glue together a plastic model. The true shake and bake model kit. 

Like the Eduard kit, the pit is average at best.  I sprayed it XF-24 Dark Grey with some black added to simulate RLM 66.  I gave it "the business" then added a PE instrument panel and seat belts.  

The pit is simple, but looks busy enough when fitted inside the fuselage. I'm gonna have to give the edge to the Tamiya kit here.

I was here in about two seconds flat. As I recalled, this kit is stupid easy to assemble.  In other news, I forgot this was a trop version and accidentally added the "normal" intake.  After I peeled myself off the ceiling I was able to drill it out and break it out of it's hole with an old Exacto before the glue set fully.  I then added the correct trop filter.  Crisis averted.

Tamiya unfortunately did not add the cool wing rivet detail present on the Eduard kit. Their recent 1/48 G-6 does not have it either. Perhaps Tamiya only offers that in their 1/32 scale stuff as they may feel it should only be seen in the larger scale. A valid point I suppose.  I however prefer them.  Score one point Eduard in this department.

....and no, I'm not adding rivet detail. As Dirty Harry said, a man should know his limitations.  

  

After the preshading, I sprayed the insignias then added Montex masks. I also sprayed the white fuselage band and taped that off.  The Luftwaffe used a scheme of RLM 79 over 78 in the desert.  This plane then got splotches of RLM 80, probably field applied as they look crude in the picture.  I started with the RLM 78.  I was not buying AK Real Colors for this turkey, so I mixed Tamiya paints per kit recommendations.  truthfully I pefer Tamiya paints, but I have trouble with their RLM colors.  Anyways, for the RLM 78, I went with the recommended XF-23 Light Blue mixed with a bit of XF-50 Field Blue until it looked ok to my eye.  It's my understanding RLM 78 is just a slightly darker version of RLM 65.  I marbled and faded it with XF-2 White.  

 

 

Next I fired down the RLM 79.  I used the recommended XF-59 Desert yellow with a touch of XF-64 Red Brown.  I used the same marbling by adding XF-2 white, but went heavier as these took a beating from the sun.

I used XF-58 Olive Green to simulate the RLM 80 splotches.  This was a challenge and time consuming, but I free handed them in there.  Very close with low pressure.  I faded them out slightly with some XF-57 Buff added. The Montex masks worked great.I forgot to fade out the insignias with diluted flat white, but will do so later.   

It will get some gloss coat soon.  I pray the Tamiya Black 8 cooperates.          

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, July 30, 2020 3:10 AM

Looks great!  The photo you included sure indicates where the Trop camo came from.  

Thanks,

John

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, July 30, 2020 4:15 AM

keavdog

Looks great!  The photo you included sure indicates where the Trop camo came from.  

 

Thanks John.  Indeed, they blended right it.  There's one out there somewhere, maybe this plane, where you can only see the crosses because it blended perfectly. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:25 AM

Very nice. Definately my fave 109 scheme.

BK

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On Deck: Alot more !

 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:35 AM

Looking good so far, Joe! What was this, two or three hours' worth of work for you?Wink

I like that even the Germans painted their planes' tires with white walls. Very classy!

Also, I'm sure you know this, but the Japanese manufacturers' decals require a little warmer water to activate. Try using hot (140 degrees) water and let them set in there a bit longer than you normally would. That should help the 8 work out for you.

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Thursday, July 30, 2020 8:04 PM

Hands-down, still one of the finest 109 kits in this scale.  Black eight in tropical livery has always been my favorite 109. Great choice LD!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/144 Revell Snowberry

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya Fw 190A4

In the hole: 1/48 Hasegawa Fw 190A4

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:16 PM

Your Emil is looking great so far.

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Posted by bvallot on Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:36 PM

Very cool Joe! I remeber years ago when I first got started I came across this very picture of Black 8 and wondered if I'd ever learn some tricks of how to mottle a paint scheme. One day I'll get around to some of these. You make a beautiful plane even if it wasn't an Eduard with fine recessed rivets. LOL. I love rivets!

Waiting for the finish line. =]

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Tamiya P-51D  William Shomo

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 31, 2020 12:51 AM

BrandonK

Very nice. Definately my fave 109 scheme.

BK

 

Thanks Brandon

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 31, 2020 12:58 AM

RadMax8

Looking good so far, Joe! What was this, two or three hours' worth of work for you?Wink

I like that even the Germans painted their planes' tires with white walls. Very classy!

Also, I'm sure you know this, but the Japanese manufacturers' decals require a little warmer water to activate. Try using hot (140 degrees) water and let them set in there a bit longer than you normally would. That should help the 8 work out for you.

 

Thanks Max.....lol.  Nah, I've been working on these two for the past few weeks.  I was actually tossing the idea of stopping WIPs all together and just posting finished photos, but I got bored and decided to post some pics anyways. 

Thanks for the decal tip.  Actually I didn't know that because I avoid them as much as possible.  I'll heat the water up with my candle warmer.  

Yeah, I'm gonna pass on the white walls....lol.  Just don't look right.......

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 31, 2020 1:00 AM

Mopar Madness

Hands-down, still one of the finest 109 kits in this scale.  Black eight in tropical livery has always been my favorite 109. Great choice LD!

 

Agreed......almost built itself.  Thanks Chad, I hope to do it a service. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 31, 2020 1:00 AM

Aggieman

Your Emil is looking great so far.

 

Thanks Aggie

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 31, 2020 1:03 AM

bvallot

Very cool Joe! I remeber years ago when I first got started I came across this very picture of Black 8 and wondered if I'd ever learn some tricks of how to mottle a paint scheme. One day I'll get around to some of these. You make a beautiful plane even if it wasn't an Eduard with fine recessed rivets. LOL. I love rivets!

Waiting for the finish line. =]

 

Thanks Britt.  It wasn't that bad.  With your talent you'll have no trouble. In close with low pressure.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 31, 2020 1:06 AM

lawdog114

 

 
keavdog

Looks great!  The photo you included sure indicates where the Trop camo came from.  

 

 

 

Thanks John.  Indeed, they blended right it.  There's one out there somewhere, maybe this plane, where you can only see the crosses because it blended perfectly. 

 

I found it.....boy they were sneaky!

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 2:09 AM

I went ahead and finished this one up.  To recap, it's in the JG27 markings of Werner Schroer, a 114 kill ace. He flew this plane out of Lybia in 1941. As I said, I was building this Tamiya kit along with the Eduard kit and figured I'd compare the two. Well, here's my 2 cents.  I can certainlysay that this kit is the easier of the two to build, it pretty much builds itself.  The surface detail is somewhat basic, but still quite Tamiya-like in quality.  The Eduard kit has much better surface detail.  I don't think they missed a rivet.  That said, it should be being that it's 25 years newer.  I did find the Eduard kit a but finicky buildwise as they tend to over engineer things.  

This one got some PE in the pit.  I had to make another aerial mast as the original disappeared on me.  I'm sure I'll find it a month from now.  I rigged the brake lines and the aerial wire with "Uschi Rig That Thing .005" line.  This discoveryhas made this normally loathed endeavor much easier.  It's basically the same as EZ line but better.  Paint was a mix of Tamiya and weathering was through AK washes.  The Tamiya decals that I did use performed perfectly with Micro Sol, which was a pleasant surprise. No issues whatsoever.  So my verdict? They are both great kits but if you like rivet detail and like all your extras included, go with the Eduard Profipack.  By no means is the Tamiya kit obsolete and I wouldn't hesitate to do another.  That's about it.

   

         

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Posted by Hoss WA on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 1:55 PM

Wonderful finish. Camo and shading are superb. Congrats. 

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, August 4, 2020 7:06 PM

Excellent work as always.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:08 AM

Hoss WA

Wonderful finish. Camo and shading are superb. Congrats. 

 

Thanks Hoss

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 3:09 AM

Aggieman

Excellent work as always.

 

Thanks Aggie

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:04 PM
Great build as always Joe. I agree it is one of the best E schemes

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:11 PM

Joe, you know what I'm going to say, so just pat yourself on the back for me!

John

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 11:54 PM

Another winner right here.

Chad

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On deck: 1/48 Tamiya Fw 190A4

In the hole: 1/48 Hasegawa Fw 190A4

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, August 6, 2020 8:09 AM

You're really crankin' 'em out.

Another good one. I like your camo job, this one is not the typical 190 mottling, and I sure like that shot of the camo blending into the desert.

I think this may have been the camo I tried to pull off on my first 190. I based it on the box art. It is gawd-awful, unlike yours.

-Greg

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, August 9, 2020 10:38 PM

tempestjohnny
Great build as always Joe. I agree it is one of the best E schemes
 

Thanks Johnny 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, August 9, 2020 10:39 PM

jeaton01

Joe, you know what I'm going to say, so just pat yourself on the back for me!

 

Thanks for the kind words John. 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, August 9, 2020 10:40 PM

Mopar Madness

Another winner right here.

 

Thanks Chad

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, August 9, 2020 10:42 PM

Greg

You're really crankin' 'em out.

Another good one. I like your camo job, this one is not the typical 190 mottling, and I sure like that shot of the camo blending into the desert.

I think this may have been the camo I tried to pull off on my first 190. I based it on the box art. It is gawd-awful, unlike yours.

 


Thanks Greg. It was definitely a fun scheme to do in the green splotches weren't all that hard. I'm surprised more decal companies don't make them for these early desert Emils. They are surprisingly hard to find.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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