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Monogram 3 Fighting Planes of the Thirties - F4B-4, F11C-2, and P-6E 1/72

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  • From: Katy, TX
Monogram 3 Fighting Planes of the Thirties - F4B-4, F11C-2, and P-6E 1/72
Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 4:38 PM

My latest completed builds are a trio of U.S. biplanes from the 1930s - Boeing's F4B-4 Navy fighter, Curtiss' F11C-2 Goshawk Navy fighter, and Curtiss' P-6E Hawk Army fighter. Monogram kitted these in 72nd scale in 1968, and sold them separately as well as a multi-kit set.  When I set out to acquire all those old Monogram kits that came out in the '60s in the baby blue boxes, I set my sights on the multi-kit set.

I built each of these when I was a kid, and more recently had built Hasegawa's 1/32 F4B-4.  Over recent years, I've attempted a few biplane kits, and have always run into problems with upper wing alignment and getting the cabanes lined up properly.  That experience makes me appreciate the manufacturers that mold their biplanes with the cabanes already in position rather than as separate parts.  Each of these builds went together smoothly in terms of construction, and even the rigging proved to be easy to complete.

I painted mostly with Vallejo colors - chrome yellow, aluminum, olive drab, red, and light grey.  I used fine EZ Line for the rigging.  Decals - given the age of these kits, I presumed they would be bad so I acquired aftermarket sets from Starfighter Decals (only for the F4B-4 and P-6E).  I sprayed decal setting solution on the kit sheets, and was surprised that the instrument panel decals (a Monogram staple when these were first manufactured) as well as the Top Hatters logo on the F11C-2 worked just fine; all the others either refused to detached from the sheet or crumbled after being in water for a bit.  The Goshawk is complete fiction - the wing chevron and airplane code came from the F4B-4 sheet.

F4B-4 (VF-33 U.S.S. Langley, 1934)

F11C-2 (fictional markings)

P-6E (17th Pursuit Squadron, Selfridge Field, Michigan - Snow Owls)

Group Shots

The box these kits came in is bigger than some of Monogram's 1/48 offerings, so I was a bit surprised at just how small these warbirds are given how much space is in that box.  I took some photos with a rule showing wingspan.

For the most part, these were a lot of fun.  The first part of that sentence refers to issues I had with the decals, particularly for the Goshawk, and to the upper wing on the P-6E paint job.  I had used Stynylrez for a prime coat, then put down a coat of Vallejo white as one should do when painting yellows.  When I got around to masking for the red stripes, large sections of the yellow paint lifted away.  Grrrr.  I stripped the wing and re-did, and after the red stripes were down, more yellow lifted away.  I attempted to brush paint the impacted areas with Vallejo yellow, but that paint is a bit too liquidy to go on and fully cover.  I ended up using some Model Master Enamel chrome yellow, but it is noticably darker than the Vallejo.  Given all the issues I had with masking, I used a piece of cardboard held in place with clamps to re-paint most of the top wing - but this is easily the worst looking paint job of all these kits.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 5:34 PM

That is quite the colorful trio! I'd be proud to have those in my collection and I think you did an amazing job with all three of them. 

Dang. Those are beautiful.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 5:45 PM

Those are great. I bought that kit a while back for one of the Monogram Mafia GB's, from oldmodelkits or one of those types of sites.

They build up nicely, if tiny.

 

Bill

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 7:40 PM

Lovely!

John

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 10:31 PM

Those are great!   So bright and colorful.  I have to take on biplanes at some point.  Well done

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 11:31 AM

M. Brindos

That is quite the colorful trio! I'd be proud to have those in my collection and I think you did an amazing job with all three of them. 

Dang. Those are beautiful.

 

Thank you Mike for your kind words!

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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 11:33 AM

GMorrison

Those are great. I bought that kit a while back for one of the Monogram Mafia GB's, from oldmodelkits or one of those types of sites.

They build up nicely, if tiny.

 

Bill

 

Bill, thank you for your kind words!

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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 11:33 AM

jeaton01

Lovely!

 

Thank you John!

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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 11:34 AM

keavdog

Those are great!   So bright and colorful.  I have to take on biplanes at some point.  Well done

 

Thank you John!  

If you're going to tackle a biplane, I'd recommend any that has the cabanes molded into position.  If not, be sure you get or make a biplane jig and wear a good-fitting patience hat.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 11:42 AM

Aggieman

 

 
keavdog

Those are great!   So bright and colorful.  I have to take on biplanes at some point.  Well done

 

 

 

Thank you John!  

 

If you're going to tackle a biplane, I'd recommend any that has the cabanes molded into position.  If not, be sure you get or make a biplane jig and wear a good-fitting patience hat.

 

Cabanes being the struts between the fuselage and the upper wing.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 11:47 AM

Great job Aggie. I built that Goshawk a few years back and it still sits prominently on my shelf. Nice kit.

I love those mid war fighters.

Steve

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 5:38 PM
Great looking trio. Nice to see some old kits being built

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, February 4, 2021 7:51 AM

GMorrison

 

 
Aggieman

 

 
keavdog

Those are great!   So bright and colorful.  I have to take on biplanes at some point.  Well done

 

 

 

Thank you John!  

 

If you're going to tackle a biplane, I'd recommend any that has the cabanes molded into position.  If not, be sure you get or make a biplane jig and wear a good-fitting patience hat.

 

 

 

Cabanes being the struts between the fuselage and the upper wing.

 

 

Thanks for the assist!

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, February 4, 2021 7:54 AM

modelcrazy

Great job Aggie. I built that Goshawk a few years back and it still sits prominently on my shelf. Nice kit.

I love those mid war fighters.

 

Steve, thanks for your kind words.

At about 6 years old, my mom took me to an old theater in Bellaire, Texas (the theater no longer exists) to see the 1933 version of King Kong.  I fell in love with those inter-war biplanes that are shown in that movie.  I'm not sure what airplane those were, but they were similar to the Goshawk.  I love the yellow wings with the colorful tails and the big chevrons across the upper wing.

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, February 4, 2021 7:57 AM

tempestjohnny
Great looking trio. Nice to see some old kits being built
 

Thank you Johnny for your kind words!  

A few years ago, I bought just about all of the old Monogram kits in these baby blue boxes.  Purely nostalgia, as these were the boxes that I remember from way back then when I started building (built my first with an assist from my dad at age 3).  I'm keeping the boxes after I build these old kits; eventually I'm going to find a way to display them in my work area.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, February 4, 2021 9:58 AM

That is a lovely trio of Monogram Yellow Wings biplanes. Man those sure bring back some fond memories and put a smile on my face. You did a very fine job of building and painting, and even rigged them up!  Very sweet! 

 

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Posted by WillysMB on Thursday, February 4, 2021 12:15 PM

Ah - the memories...

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, February 4, 2021 12:23 PM

You've got some beautiful little builds, Aggieman!  And I congratulate you on rigging them.  In 1/72, you can often just skip it, but it's great to see you included it.

 

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Posted by Back to the bench on Thursday, February 4, 2021 12:52 PM

Wow, very nicely done! Just goes to show even old kits that are crude by todays standards can look awesome.

Gil

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, February 4, 2021 2:41 PM

stikpusher

That is a lovely trio of Monogram Yellow Wings biplanes. Man those sure bring back some fond memories and put a smile on my face. You did a very fine job of building and painting, and even rigged them up!  Very sweet! 

 

Time for another Monogram Mafia GB?

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, February 4, 2021 3:39 PM

In memory of Hammer!

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, February 4, 2021 8:32 PM

stikpusher

That is a lovely trio of Monogram Yellow Wings biplanes. Man those sure bring back some fond memories and put a smile on my face. You did a very fine job of building and painting, and even rigged them up!  Very sweet! 

 

Stik, thank you for your kind words.  These old Monogram kits are great memories for me, and just seeing the boxes brings me back to my childhood.

There was no way I was not going to rig these tiny little planes.

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, February 4, 2021 8:33 PM

WillysMB

Ah - the memories...

 

Agreed.

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, February 4, 2021 8:35 PM

the Baron

You've got some beautiful little builds, Aggieman!  And I congratulate you on rigging them.  In 1/72, you can often just skip it, but it's great to see you included it.

 

 

Baron, thank you for the kind words!  Like I told Stik, there was no way I was not going to rig these.  I used the fine EZ Line, which per their web site scales well to 1/72.  It really wasn't difficult, just a little time consuming as I would run EZ Line through small holes I drilled through the wings and then use clamps to tighten the lines while the glue dried.

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Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, February 4, 2021 8:37 PM

Back to the bench

Wow, very nicely done! Just goes to show even old kits that are crude by todays standards can look awesome.

 

Gil, thank you for your kind words!  These kits feature absolutely no internal detail - no cockpits, for instance, other than a decal instrument panel, but the surface detail is actually quite well done.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, February 4, 2021 11:06 PM

In the spirit of "finish your homework before dinner", I painted my set with Testors square bottles only.

Their silver is still one of the best around, and the Insignia R/B/Y is as real as one needs for the era.

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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