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MIG Killers II Group Build 11/08-11/09

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MIG Killers II Group Build 11/08-11/09
Posted by Air Master Modeler on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:13 PM

Here we go!!

Rules are as before with the exception that all Mig Killers from all countries are allowed.

Modern Combat Aircraft only, NO LIMITS on aftermarket products, any scale aircraft model. WWII Combat Aircraft used in the Korean War are allowed.

Participants may not build same type aircraft with identical markings; example... two F-4J's built as Showtime 100 will not be allowed. Cross-over's from other GB are allowed but aircraft presented must be a MIG Killer.

Korean war to present day fighters and attack aircraft that have comfirmed Mig kills.

Mig kill markings are optional and only need to present the aircraft as it appeared when it got a MIG kill.

I need ten participants to get this started. Sign up !!!!!

Show me the MIG KILLERS!!!

1. Rand aka Air Master... Revell 1/48 F/A-18C, VFA-81  ODS Mig Killer. Finished. 

Next Project...Monogram 1/48 F-4J VMFA-333 Shamrocks AA201 BuNo 155526. Only Marines Phantom to score a Mig Kill shooting down a MiG-21 Fishbed. 1972.

2. Trexx... 1/48 Dassult Mirage IIIC (IAF Mig Killer)

3. Big Smitty... 1/72 Trumpeter Sea Fury FB.11, 802 Sqn Mig-15 Killer

4. Lewbud... 1/72 F-86F, Capt. Lonnie R. Moore, 335th FIS 4th FIW.

5. Big Mike... 1/32 Hasagawa F-86,  SAAF Korean Mig Killer

6. WarHammer... 1/48 Revell F-4C Phantom II

7. Simon L... 1/48 Classic Air Meteor RAAF Mig Killer A77-851 ( Mig-15 Kill)

8. Mist86... 1/48th F-14A, VF-32 Swordman, Libyan MiG-23 Killer 

9. btp2k2... Revell 1:32nd F-15C, Eglin Gorilla's Mig Killer

10. constructor... Revell 1:48 F-4C Phantom

11. dupes... Hobby Craft A-4C Skyhawk

12. stikpusher... Monogram 1/48 F-8 Crusader  VF-162 10/9/66 MiG Killer F-8E BuNo 149159. Flown by Cdr. Richard Bellinger U.S. Navy's First Mig Kill.  

Rand

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WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:54 PM

I'm new to group builds and don't know the rules, but I'm moderately interested.

Recently I purchased a my first Hobby Boss kit. A 1/48 scale Dasault Mirage IIIC.

It doesn't come with Israeli markings, but if I can find some I'd like to give it a go for the GB since the IAF clobbered many Migs with this type.

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:11 PM
 trexx wrote:

I'm new to group builds and don't know the rules, but I'm moderately interested.

Recently I purchased a my first Hobby Boss kit. A 1/48 scale Dasault Mirage IIIC.

It doesn't come with Israeli markings, but if I can find some I'd like to give it a go for the GB since the IAF clobbered many Migs with this type.

Trexx,

The only real valid rule here is that the model be of a modern combat or attack aircraft that has a confirmed Mig Kill. I beleive Zotz Decals makes decals for Isreali Mig Killers check them out. Be glad to have ya aboard. Let me know.

Rand

Rand

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WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by BigSmitty on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:21 PM
 trexx wrote:

I'm new to group builds and don't know the rules, but I'm moderately interested.

Recently I purchased a my first Hobby Boss kit. A 1/48 scale Dasault Mirage IIIC.

It doesn't come with Israeli markings, but if I can find some I'd like to give it a go for the GB since the IAF clobbered many Migs with this type.

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_268.shtml

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_270.shtml

That should help you narrow it down, Trexx.  Additionally, look at http://www.isradecal.com/ for the markings, etc. 

I'm looking at joining this, but would like to clarify one thing.  Does a Sea Fury classify as "modern combat aircraft"?  Or an A-1H Skyraider?  If not, I've got a myriad of other choices for this.

Matt - IPMS #46275

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 9:38 PM
Is this air to air only or air to ground as well?

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Big Mike on Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:59 AM

Good day

I am new to group builds but would like to join, does a SAAF Korean F-86 sabre count for this build?

Mike

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:21 AM

Good Morning,

Smitty, I did a bit of research and YES, the Sea Fury does count.. it has a comfirmed kill over a Mig-15 in Korea and also the Skyraider accounted for a Mig kill during Viet Nam.

Lew, Air to Ground attack aircraft do count since a few do have comfirmed kills over Mig's (see above)

Mike, The F-86 is a great choice and as far as I know many Korean F-86 jockeys did get kills over Migs.

I will be posting the GB badges here later. No need to wait until you complete a build to get one. Grab one and let everyone know your participating in this GB.

We are off to a great start and and I decided this GB will officially begin Saturday, November 1st and will end next year November 30th. This should allow time to get materials and allow others to join us. Most of all guys have fun, share info and dont hesitate to ask for help.

WELCOME ABOARD!

 

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by BigSmitty on Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:48 AM

Rand,

Put me in for the 1/72 Trumpeter Sea Fury FB.11, markings of 802 Sqn. The Trumpeter kit at least has the markings for the right plane that downed the MiG-15 in 1952.

Matt

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:10 AM

Great choice Smitty!

I am pulling my Super Bug from GB because this type A/C have no Mig Kills and I'll need to find another kit for an AC that got a mig kill. I did the F-4J Phantom II "Showtime 100" last time. I am going to have a hard time deciding what plane I'll do now.

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by BigSmitty on Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:00 AM
 Air Master Modeler wrote:

Great choice Smitty!

I am pulling my Super Bug from GB because this type A/C have no Mig Kills and I'll need to find another kit for an AC that got a mig kill. I did the F-4J Phantom II "Showtime 100" last time. I am going to have a hard time deciding what plane I'll do now.

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/cat_index_9.shtml

Has a searchable database of kills from all over the world and should help out matching what you have in the stash with a MiG killer. 

I may end up doing another for this, possibly an IRIAF F-4E with a confirmed MiG kill in 1988 or the A-1H Skyraider with the MiG-17 kill and keep with the "props kill jets" theme.  Then again there's always the Israeli F-15C with it's possibilities, or the Saudi F-15C from Desert Storm...the possiblities are literally endless.

Matt - IPMS #46275

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:00 PM
 BigSmitty wrote:
 Air Master Modeler wrote:

Great choice Smitty!

I am pulling my Super Bug from GB because this type A/C have no Mig Kills and I'll need to find another kit for an AC that got a mig kill. I did the F-4J Phantom II "Showtime 100" last time. I am going to have a hard time deciding what plane I'll do now.

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/cat_index_9.shtml

Has a searchable database of kills from all over the world and should help out matching what you have in the stash with a MiG killer. 

I may end up doing another for this, possibly an IRIAF F-4E with a confirmed MiG kill in 1988 or the A-1H Skyraider with the MiG-17 kill and keep with the "props kill jets" theme.  Then again there's always the Israeli F-15C with it's possibilities, or the Saudi F-15C from Desert Storm...the possiblities are literally endless.

I really want to do an American Mig Killer, so my first 2 choices are either an F-15C or an F/A-18C. I am really leaning toward doing the F/A-18C VFA-81 from ODS. Finding decals for this bug will be a problem.

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by BigSmitty on Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:24 PM
 Air Master Modeler wrote:

I really want to do an American Mig Killer, so my first 2 choices are either an F-15C or an F/A-18C. I am really leaning toward doing the F/A-18C VFA-81 from ODS. Finding decals for this bug will be a problem.

SuperScale sheet 48-417, VFA-81 MiG Killer.

Repli-Scale sheet 48-5032.

Both have markings for the VFA-81 F/A-18C.  Both OOP for a while...

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=CAP48007

It's on sale, has the markings for the Bug you're looking for.  1/48th scale.

Good luck.

Matt - IPMS #46275

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:03 PM
 BigSmitty wrote:
 Air Master Modeler wrote:

I really want to do an American Mig Killer, so my first 2 choices are either an F-15C or an F/A-18C. I am really leaning toward doing the F/A-18C VFA-81 from ODS. Finding decals for this bug will be a problem.

SuperScale sheet 48-417, VFA-81 MiG Killer.

Repli-Scale sheet 48-5032.

Both have markings for the VFA-81 F/A-18C.  Both OOP for a while...

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=CAP48007

It's on sale, has the markings for the Bug you're looking for.  1/48th scale.

Good luck.

Matt,

Thanks for the heads up on the decals. I decided I am definatly going with the F/A-18C, VFA-81 Mig Killer. I only hope the decals will still be there when I am ready to buy them next month. I also need the F/A-18C Bug kit and I am eyeballing buying one off E-vil-bay. Yuck [yuck]@eBay.

Rand

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WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by Big Mike on Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:23 PM

My F-86 will be a 1/32 hasegawa

Mike

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:01 PM
May I join? I plan on getting the new 1/72 Hasegawa F-4C Phantom II for Christmas and would love to build a Mig killer out of it.
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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:33 PM

WarHammer,

Welcome to the GB, your on the list.

Welcome aboard!

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:41 PM

Here are the badges we are using... pick out one you like best and add to your profile signature.




All particpants may add a badge, you do not need to complete a build to add your badge.

Enjoy!

Rand

30 years experience building plastic models.

WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by Big Mike on Friday, October 24, 2008 1:38 AM

Good day

Here is a pic of a Mirage F-1 that killed a Mig in Angola

Mike

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Posted by Big Mike on Friday, October 24, 2008 10:01 AM

Can i enter more than one build, or is it only one build each

Mike

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Friday, October 24, 2008 1:30 PM

Mike,

There is no limit here, you can build as many as you like. Big Smile [:D]

Rand

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WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by trexx on Friday, October 24, 2008 6:03 PM

Thanks guys for the info and links.

This will be my first "Group Build" and my first Israeli airplane ever!

 

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:40 AM

Trexx, These Group Builds are always fun and a great way to make friends with fellow modlers you have yet to meet here at FSM.

Here is an artists rendition of the VFA-81 Sunliners Mig Killer I plan to build

Aint she sweet! I am eyeballing a Revell F/A-18C on ebay for this build. Hope its still there when I am able to get it.

Rand

Rand

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WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by Simon L on Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:47 PM

Hi Guys

 I'd like to be part of this. I'll be doing either a  1/48 Hasegawa Israeli F-16A , or a 1/48 Classic Air Korean War RAAF Meteor.

 

Edit 1 : OK - it will be the Meteor. out of box, as Royal Australian Air Force Machine A77-851. Flight Sergeant George Hale claimed one Mig 15 kill and one probable in this machine.

Simon

 

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:34 PM
 Simon L wrote:

Hi Guys

 I'd like to be part of this. I'll be doing either a  1/48 Hasegawa Israeli F-16A , or a 1/48 Classic Air Korean War RAAF Meteor.

 

Edit 1 : OK - it will be the Meteor. out of box, as Royal Australian Air Force Machine A77-851. Flight Sergeant George Hale claimed one Mig 15 kill and one probable in this machine.

Simon, Welcome to the Group! Your on the list, go get your badge and let everyone know your participating. Have fun and dont hesitate to ask for help or advice.

Welcome Aboard mate!

Rand

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WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by Simon L on Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:31 PM

OK - I have retrieved the kit from the attic stash ( this was an ordeal - don't go there )

Simon

 

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Posted by Air Master Modeler on Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:40 PM
That Meteor should look pretty good when built up.

Rand

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WIP: Revell F-14B Tomcat, backdating to F-14A VF-32 1989 Gulf Of Sidra MiG-23 Killer "Gypsy 207".

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:03 AM
Put me down for the 1/72 Trumpeter Sea Fury as well.  Was tempted by Glenn's Mig Mad Marine F-86 at the LHS, but I'm trying to thin the stacks a little bit (will probably go back and pick it up on payday).  Can someone explain why a Marine Col. was flying a USAF aircraft in combat?  I also saw the Airfix Sea Fury as well, and it's box takes up a third of the shelf space that the Trumpeter does for the same size kit.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Simon L on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:13 AM

I think that Glenn was on an exchange posting with the USAF

 

( does Google search )

Yep - here it is.....http://www.acepilots.com/korea_glenn.html

Simon

 

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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:45 AM
 Simon L wrote:

I think that Glenn was on an exchange posting with the USAF

 

( does Google search )

Yep - here it is.....http://www.acepilots.com/korea_glenn.html

Thanks Simon.  I've seen that plane several times over the years and I never thought why a USMC Col was flying a USAF aircraft.  Just as it never occurred to me that a Google search would explain this.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Simon L on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:42 AM

Actually, it's quite interesting to look at pilots who got to go on some pretty adventurous operations whils on exchange postings. Flt Lt Dave Morgan is one who springs to mind. He got Kills in the falklands war whilst on exchange from the RAF to the RAN ( no migs though - the Argies had A4's, Mirages, Daggers etc )

 

http://www.thenewscentre.co.uk/falklands/flier.htm

Simon

 

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