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Endgame 1946 GB - 1/1/09-12/31/09

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Endgame 1946 GB - 1/1/09-12/31/09
Posted by WarHammer25 on Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:53 PM

This is the official thread for the "Endgame 1946" GB. The group build will run from 1/1/09-12/31/09. (But may be extended if necessary)

This GB is based on the question: What if the war hadn't ended until 1946? So the builds that are allowed must be of late-WWII or was a prototype/paper-project during the war. i.e.-"paper-panzers" and luft '46 aircraft. This is a great time to bust out an E-100, Meteor, or try some crazy, late-war, paint job.

Anybody is welcome to join. Airplanes, armor, ships; they are all allowed.

     Rules

  • Build must be of a late-war or prototype/proposed subject. In other words, it must have been in service during or after the crossing of the Rhine and Oder in Europe and the Invasion of Okinawa in the Pacific.
  • If it is an early-war project, such as the Dicker Max, it must be brought up to date by replacing early-war parts with late-war parts and such.
  • Developements right after the war are allowed like the F-84 Thunderjet and such.
  • Kits must be minimally started or unstarted.
  • AM, PE, and Scratchbuilding are welcome.
  • Any scale.
  • Crossovers are allowed as long as they are not started until January 1.
  • Multiple entries are also allowed and encouraged.
  • Any what-ifs are allowed if approved by me first.
  • The most important one: Have Fun!Smile [:)]

Here is a brief list of appropriate armor and aircraft I have compiled. I probably have missed something, so if something is not on the list, feel free to let me know. Also, I am not real familiar with late-war ships/submarines, therefore, if building a ship, let me know and I will do research to find if it is appropriate.

     Armor

  • M4 Sherman (M4A3E8, M4A1E8, M4A3E2, M4A3, M4A2, M4A1, Firefly)
  • M5 Stuart (M5, M5A1, M8, M8A1)
  • M24 Chaffee
  • M26 Pershing (T26E4, T26E3, M26, M45)
  • M10 Tank Destroyer (Achilles)
  • M18 Hellcat
  • M36 Jackson
  • M3 Halftrack
  • M8/M20 Greyhound
  • M7 Priest
  • M40 Big Shot
  • Churchill
  • Cromwell
  • Comet
  • Centurion
  • T-34/85
  • IS-2/3
  • ISU/SU series
  • Sturmgeschutz III/IV
  • Tiger (I, King Tiger, Sturm Tiger, Jagdtiger, Japanese Tiger)
  • Panzer IV (Jagdpanzer IV, Brummbar, H, J, K)
  • Hetzer
  • Panther (A, D, F, G, II, FlakPanther, Jagdpanther)
  • 251 Halftrack
  • Elefant/Ferdinand
  • Maus
  • Entwicklung Series (E-10, 25, 50, 75, 100)
  • Many Japanese tanks

       Aircraft

  • P-51 Mustang
  • P-82 Twin Mustang
  • P-47 Thunderbolt
  • P-38 Lightning
  • P-40 Warhawk
  • P-63 Kingcobra
  • P-61 Black Widow
  • P-80 Shooting Star
  • P-84 Thunderjet
  • F6F Hellcat
  • F4U Corsair
  • F5U Flying Flapjack
  • F7F Tigercat
  • F8F Bearcat
  • A-1 Skyraider
  • SBD Helldiver
  • TBF Avenger
  • B-17 Flying Fortress
  • B-24 Liberator
  • B-29/50 Super Fortress
  • B-32 Dominator
  • B-26 Marauder
  • B-25 Mitchell
  • Spitfire
  • Tempest
  • Lancaster
  • Mosquito
  • Sea Fury
  • Vampire
  • Meteor
  • Bf-109
  • Fw-190/Ta-152
  • Me-262
  • Ju-88/188
  • He-111
  • Bf-110
  • He-219
  • Go-229
  • Do-335
  • He-162
  • Me-163
  • Ta-183
  • Ar-234
  • Mistel
  • Here is a link for Russian aircraft:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_the_Soviet_Union_and_the_CIS

  • One for experimental:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_experimental_aircraft

  • And one for WWII jets:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_jet_aircraft

  • And one for Japanese:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_Japan

Many planes and protoypes are left out of my list. There are many planes in the lists in the links that will not count.

Remember, it MUST have been in service in 1945 or later. A proposed/prototype plane must have been designed during WWII or just after WWII. A plane designed in 1946 or early 1947 are ok as well.

You can jump in anytime, just as long as it is completed by September 1, 2009. Just leave me a post or message with what you will be building. Feel free to ask any questions or leave comments.

Participants:

WarHammer25 -

  • 1/72 Dragon Do-335B-4 Recon *Completed*
    Finished Pics on Page 10
  • 1/32 Hasegawa Bf-109K-4 *Completed* Finished Pics on Page 15
  • 1/35 Dragon King Tiger Henschel converted to King Tiger II

stikpusher  

  • 1/35 Tamiya M4A3E2 Sherman 76mm "Jumbo"

RMC_Birdgunner - 

  • Dragon E-100

RBaer - 

  • 1/35 Tamiya M26 Pershing *Completed*
    Finished Pics on Page 11

Swanny -

  • 1/48 Dragon He-162/Me-262 Mistel converted to Me-262 HG III *Completed* 
    Finished Pics on Page 6

Hartmann352 -

  • 1/48 Tamiya Do-335A-12 Trainer

amilder -

  • 1/72 Secial Hobby Blohm & Voss P.212.03

Racedriver -

  • 1/32 ROG He-162

JMart -

  • 1/35 Tamiya Panther Ausf. G Late

ECS -

  • 1/35 DML Maus

Hellcat man -

  • 1/35 Tamiya Jagdtiger
  • 1/35 Dragon M4A3 105mm HVSS Sherman

Sdkfz 251 -

  • 1/48 AMT F7F Tigercat
  • 1/35 Trumpeter E-25

Higgy -

  • 1/35 Tamiya Panther Ausf. G Late

model geek -

  • 1/48 Tamiya Meteor F.1 *Completed*
    Finished Pics on Page 10

deeve -

  • 1/32 Hasegawa Me-163 Komet

FeldMarSchall Model -

  • 1/48 Monogram Ju-88C-6

MarkDunck -

  • Undecided

atomicrob -

  • 1/35 Dragon Panther F

KJ200 -

  • 1/48 Pegasus Me-262 *Completed*
    Finished Pics on Page 12

dbaumi60 -

  • 1/72 Revell Focke Wulf TL-Jäger "Flitzer"

Bish -

  • 1/72 Dragon He-162/E-377 Mistel 5 *Completed* Finished Pics on Page 15

eptingmike -

  • 1/48 Czech Model Me-309 *Completed* Finished Pics on Page 14

Dre -

  • 1/35 DML SdKfz 234/4 Nachtjäger

C. Alan -

  • 1/48 Tamiya Do-335B-2 *Completed*  Finished Pics on Page 13

carsanab -

  • 1/48 Tamiya Ta-183 *Completed*
    Finished Pics on Page 13

jcheung5150 -

  • 1/35 Trumpeter E-25

-Neu- -

  • 1/72 Academy Tempest V *Completed* Finished Pics on Page 15

Badges are claimable as soon as you join.

Armor:

Alternate Armor:

Aircraft:

Alternate Aircraft:

 

The only easy day was yesterday - U.S. Navy Seals
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Posted by Swanny on Friday, October 24, 2008 8:51 AM

Okay, I'll play but the possible aircraft I'm thinking of don't show up on your list. I am considering one of these four, all in 1/48:

Me-262 HG III

Gotha P-60

Ta.183

Kyushu J7W3

If you get enough interested parties I'll firm up my selection.

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Friday, October 24, 2008 8:59 AM
All of those would be fine. The whole idea of this GB is to build those paper-projects that were designed during the later part of WWII. They are probably under the experimental or WWII jets if at all. Welcome aboard Swanny, just let me know when you decide what kit you will be building.
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Posted by Hartmann352 on Friday, October 24, 2008 8:59 AM

I might be game with a DO-335B-2 or the trainer version. (A-12?) {Both Tamiya 1/48}

Make a Toast [#toast], Dave

"Yesterday is history, Tomorrow a mystery, but Today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present".

 

 

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Friday, October 24, 2008 9:02 AM
That would be great Hartmann352. Welcome
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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:40 PM
WarHammer, I am having trouble tracking down a HVSS/E8 suspension right now... If I can not track one down I have an alternate in mind of a M4A3E2 76mm (upgunned Sherman Jumbo that appeared in spring '45.

 

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:58 PM

stikpusher,

Squadron currently has the AFV Club HVSS set: http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AC35030 It is the only one I could find.

 

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:53 PM
The armor and aircraft badges are up. Any comments are welcome. Also, if anyone wants a badge that displays an Allied fighter instead of the Go-229 for instance, I can make one that has an Allied fighter on it as well. 
The only easy day was yesterday - U.S. Navy Seals
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Posted by amilder on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:18 AM

I'd like to join this GB. I've always had a thing for the late-war Blohm & Voss flying wing designs. I've got a line on a SPecial Hobby 1/72 B&V P.212.03. That fits the theme, right?

From Luft46:

http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvp212.html

If that falls through my fall-back will be a Planet Models 1/72 B&V P.208. 

 Andy

 Edit: uh, replace "flying wing" with "tailless design"Blush [:I]

Andy
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Posted by WarHammer25 on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:56 PM
Sure amilder. I will put you down for a Special Hobby 1/72 B&V P.212.03. I always thought those Blohm & Voss tailless designs are cool. Welcome to the GB!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Swanny on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:55 PM
It was a difficult decision but I am going to do the Me-262 HG III as a conversion to the old Monogram Me-262.
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Posted by WarHammer25 on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:26 PM
Sounds good Swanny. I presume that it is 1/48 scale?
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Posted by WarHammer25 on Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:04 PM

-bump

I have posted alternate aircraft and armor badges as well.

The only easy day was yesterday - U.S. Navy Seals
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Posted by Swanny on Friday, October 31, 2008 8:59 PM
Sorry, yeah - that'll be in 1/48.
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Posted by WarHammer25 on Saturday, November 1, 2008 9:34 AM
Got it Swanny.
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Posted by amilder on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:05 PM

Well I now have the kit in my grubby hands - Special Hobby Blohm & Voss P.212.03 Strahljager

It's pretty rough, tons of flash, but with a little TLC, I should be able to make something thats not too embarrasing.

Andy
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Posted by WarHammer25 on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:51 PM

Looks cool amilder. Good luck! Can't wait to see it finished.

Everyone, I just got a greatmodels.com flyer and I saw that Hasegawa is making a jet engined Shinden. That would be awesome to see in this GB if someone is going to get it.

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Posted by Racedriver on Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:16 AM
I am in, I have never been involved in a group build but this one will give me a reason to build my ROG He-162 1/32 scale thats collecting dust in my stash.
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Posted by WarHammer25 on Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:59 PM

Sounds good and welcome to your first group build Racedriver. I will put you on the list and have fun! Smile [:)]

Off topic, with a user name like that and the avatar; Do you go to Williams Grove at all?

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Posted by Swanny on Friday, November 14, 2008 6:50 AM
 WarHammer25 wrote:

Looks cool amilder. Good luck! Can't wait to see it finished.

Everyone, I just got a greatmodels.com flyer and I saw that Hasegawa is making a jet engined Shinden. That would be awesome to see in this GB if someone is going to get it.

I did a 1/48 conversion a few years ago.

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Friday, November 14, 2008 6:55 AM
That looks like it. Very nice I must say. The pic I say of the Hasegawa had German markings on it though for what looked like Heinz Bar. It had a red 13 on the side. Have no idea why the Germans would be flying one but it makes a cool subject.
The only easy day was yesterday - U.S. Navy Seals
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Posted by Racedriver on Friday, November 14, 2008 8:18 AM
 WarHammer25 wrote:

Sounds good and welcome to your first group build Racedriver. I will put you on the list and have fun! Smile [:)]

Off topic, with a user name like that and the avatar; Do you go to Williams Grove at all?

Yes I go to Williams Grove every Friday night.

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Friday, November 14, 2008 12:19 PM
Cool. I am originally from the western part of the state by Butler. Went to Lernerville every Friday night but it has nothing on the Grove.
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Posted by JMart on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:14 PM

Um, I could never start the Panther A for the Big Cats GB... maybe I can build it here?

Tamiya 1/35 Panther A, kit #35065

Is that Panther too early for 1946??

 

 

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:57 AM

That would be fine JMart. I would think that Panther As would have still been used in 1945 until they ran out. Welcome aboard!

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Posted by JMart on Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:09 PM

WH25- thanks, cheers! I did a bit more research, looks like Panther As were still being used 1945:

"Lieutenant Sotnikov's Guard Company. This unit used captured Panthers as late as spring of 1945, when they had 3 Ausf As, while operating in Prague (Praga) - district of Warsaw. Soviets held Panthers in high regard and considered captured Panther to be a prize"

"When the Panther Ausf A was first introduced, it saw service in Russia and Italy. Most of the Panther detachments deployed to meet the Allied invasion of France in mid 1944 were equipped with Panther Ausf A, and many of them were still in service at the end of the war."

Ill follow up down the road with more info... happy Thanksgiving everyone!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:52 PM

That is proof enough for me.

And I hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving! Smile [:)]

The only easy day was yesterday - U.S. Navy Seals
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Posted by WarHammer25 on Monday, December 1, 2008 3:29 PM

Just to let everyone know, there is now 30 days until this GB gets underway. Propeller [8-]Big Smile [:D]

Anyone is always welcome to join. It would be nice to get some more people to sign up. Need some more variety.

Also, I will be sending out warning-orders later on this evening to the participants I have on the current roster just to make sure I have all the info correct and to finalize things.

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, December 1, 2008 7:31 PM

Wow WarHammer, I've love to join but I've got too many GB commitments right now.  Maybe if I can build faster or have more time to build (yeah, right!!).  I've got DML's M4A3E8, T-26E3, and Panther F in the stash, all of which would qualify....just don't know if I'll have the time for them. 

BTW, wouldn't the M24 Chaffee also qualify?  They were deployed in late '44 and saw plenty of action in '45.  It remained the light tank of the U.S. well into the '50s I believe. 

Ernest

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Monday, December 1, 2008 7:39 PM

Yes, you are correct about the M24 Chaffe bufflehead.

It would be really cool if you could join. I would love to see either one of those builds. Just start building faster! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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