"Four Kills" GB References

Hi bbrowniii,

Check into the career of Gordon Gollob.  I believe he got his start in Bf-110's.

Thanks Hans-Duly noted and correction made.

Dunno why the pic I posted ceased to exist-a hyperlink (that doesn't work..at least for me) in its place.  One of these days I'll get industrious and post it in Photobucket and then link it.

Edit-hmmmm...went into the Wings Palette website, clicked on the pic and all of the sudden, the pic appeared in the original post.  I'm sure that there is a technical reason for this, but I wouldn't understand it anyway....

Major Fred Ohr, USAAF - Probably the only World War II flying ace of Asian descent (Korean)

Major Arthur Chin falls into that category. 

http://www.sinoam.com/ARTHURCHIN2.htm

A little research on Lt. Fred Ohr yielded this:

Major Fred Ohr, USAAF - Probably the only World War II flying ace of AsianKorean descent , Fred F. Ohr overcame widespread distrust of Asian Americans in the United States military to become a fighter squadron commander and a fighter ace with six victories in the Mediterranean Theatre.  Ohr claimed his first victory as a fighter pilot, flying Spitfires over North Africa in 1943.  While in Africa, he joined the famed 2nd Fighter Squadron, called the “American Beagles” and began flying a P-51 Mustang with the 52nd Fighter Group.  When the African campaign ended, Ohr found himself transferred to Italy, flying cover for bombers attacking Italian and Eastern European targets. After becoming squadron commander of the 2nd Fighter Squadron, Ohr and his fighter group were flying cover for the B-24’s making the famous attack on the oil fields at Ploesti, Romania.  While making one final pass to ensure that his squadron was out of harm’s way, Ohr spotted one of his men flying the opposite direction.  As Ohr turned back to retrieve the confused pilot, a German Me 109 appeared and attacked what he thought was a lone Mustang.  Ohr, unseen by the German, came to the pilot’s aid, shooting down the German and escorting the pilot and his damaged plane back to base. By the end of his tour in December of 1944, Ohr had flown 155 missions and shot down a total of six German planes in aerial combat, in addition to destroying 17 planes on the ground. Among the decorations Ohr received are the Silver Star with two Oak Leaf Clusters, the Distinguished Flying Cross with two Oak Leaf Clusters, the Bronze Star, and the Air Medal with 18 Oak Leaf Clusters. 

Just a couple of quick photos of where I,m starting from.  First a nice painting of Buckeye Don in USAAF markings.  Second a photo of Don Gentile with a Spitfire, showing some nice detail.  I'm hoping to find a photo or description of Buckeye Don in British markings.  I do have a piece of artwork with the roundels.   Rick

Just a couple of quick photos of where I,m starting from.  First a nice painting of Buckeye Don in USAAF markings.  Second a photo of Don Gentile with a Spitfire, showing some nice detail.  I'm hoping to find a photo or description of Buckeye Don in British markings.  I do have a piece of artwork with the roundels.   Rick

Hans von Hammer

Does anyone know if there are German Aces who got their start in a Bf-110E?  I know the -110 didn't fare well as a fighter, but that is how it started life, so......?

Might want to look at the Nachtflieger Staffeln...

Hans

Yup, I found a bunch.  Actually, since this is the references thread, here is the link that I used:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_air_aces

It requires a little bit of digging, but it is a pretty nice collection of info.

I am still torn between doing that Bf-110 in Iraq or Pappy Boyington's P-40 from the AVG....

bbrowniii

Hans,

I've got another 'what if' for you?   How about dual aces?  I've got a guy who was a WWI ace, and became an ace a second time around in WWII.   Can I do his WWII bird, or is that ineligible because of WWI?

I'd say that scenario would have to fall outside the scope.. It'd be like doing Gabby's F-86.. You could certainly do his WW1 crate though..

Does anyone know if there are German Aces who got their start in a Bf-110E?  I know the -110 didn't fare well as a fighter, but that is how it started life, so......?

Might want to look at the Nachtflieger Staffeln...

"Before They Were Aces"... Hmm.. Yeah, That'll work...

I love the badge....

Here is a listing of Little Friends Pilots and their mounts of the 8th Airforce. You can also follow what happened to the planes they flew. For instance Lt. Arval Roberson's P-51B was converted to a 2 seater after an accident and transferd to another group. The P-51D he became an ace in was transfered to Charles Weaver, and so on.

http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/357thfg.php?action=list_records&recs=50&sort_order=ASC&order_by=macr&recs=50&next_page=1#tabletop

I also found this site very useful. It  is a listing of all Aces of WWII. It also includes what squadron and group they were in.

http://www.americanfighteraces.org/wwllusaf_k-m.html

I am thinking what I will do is as I find and post referances I will post them to this page so the thread wont get so long and they will be easier to find.

Hans, I posted this in the other thread, obviously I like "Before They Were Aces" too.

Hans,

I've got another 'what if' for you?   How about dual aces?  I've got a guy who was a WWI ace, and became an ace a second time around in WWII.   Can I do his WWII bird, or is that ineligible because of WWI?

Was hoping for a little research assistance - instead of matching a pilot to a plane, I'm trying to do this bass aackwards and match a plane to a pilot (since it is a kit I already have). 

Does anyone know if there are German Aces who got their start in a Bf-110E?  I know the -110 didn't fare well as a fighter, but that is how it started life, so......?

For a GB title, how 'bout "Aces in the Making"

Don

As far as names for this GB, how about "Before They Were Aces"?