Anti - tank Gb - STARTS NOW!!!

How about a saddle charge?

     It doesn't destroy the tank downright, but it destroies the main gun on a tank, which would knock it out of action. It's basically 2 blocks of military explosive, joined by some rope. It was then placed over the cannon, right up agenst the turret or close to it. The explosion would cut the barrel off of the tank, and cause some damage to the internal workings of the gun, preventing any more shells from being loaded. Simple yet offective.

Also, how about an anti-tank mine?

You may need to better clarify what an anti-tank weapon is.....since one could consider helicopters(like the Apache) and aircraft (like the A-10 Thunderbolt II) anti-tank weapons.

mg.mikael

You may need to better clarify what an anti-tank weapon is.....since one could consider helicopters(like the Apache) and aircraft (like the A-10 Thunderbolt II) anti-tank weapons.

Your right. Ok so no air, arty or infantry support tanks, but anything ground based that aided troops fight off tanks like for example troops with bazookas, anti tank rifles,  even cannons,  and lets not forget, tank destroyers like the Marder III. Is this good enough?

Alright, so ground-based only. no conventional tanks or artillary. I got that much. But how about my saddle charge or an anti-tank mine? Also, would a pole-charge (simaller to a saddle charge, only it's placed inside the barrel) be fine,too?

Yes, I'm a nut for unconventional war and fighting tactics ( that explains why I love 1980's action shows like the A-Team)

Thats ironic I just watched the new A-team. As for the saddle charge, I guess you can it's just, is there any product for that in the first place?

Was the new A-Team movie as good as the original 80's shows? from the commertials, I think so.

Any way, with the saddle-charge, I will admit, I don't think there are any kits out there for it (or for the pole-charge) so I'll eather have to kitbash it or scratchbuild it.

It shouldn't be all that hard. a saddle-sharge is 2 bundles of explosive (like C-4 plastique or sticks of TNT) tied together with rope, with det-cord for  the fuse. It is then placed on the barrel, and lit. When it goes boom, the barrel is cut off, rendering the tank useless.

 A shape-charge is 1 bundle of explosives (as above) small enough to fit inside the barrel of a tank. It is attached to a fairly long pole or branch, which is tied to another branch (to form an "L" shape) Then, the fuse is strung down to the bottom of the handle. The soldier (who has to be very brave to even think about this) runs up to the tank, sticks the charge in the barrel, and lights the fuse. When the charge goes off, the barrel bannana-peels and is rendered useless.

With both methoods, they are sort of a last resort (like if a squad is caught without an anti-tank wepon)

I can prove that these exist, because they were mentioned (and shown in diograms) in a U.S.military manual on anti-tank warfare I got from my local surplus store.

So, if scratchbuilding is good for this build, then I'll build the charges. I have been needing an excuse to build a wepon like the saddle-charge. I may do it in 1/6 scale, since I can come-up with wepons like that in 1/6 scale easier. Not that a saddle-charge is small,  I just want to try it in 1/6 scale so I can load it up with detail, short of using real explosives

I've got Academy's M10 TD in the stash, I could be in with that.

good, as soon as i have at least 5 or 6 people then i can start the GB

How about "sticky bombs" like in Pvt Ryan ? Do they count ? 

Seriously,if it's next year,I will get in with a Jagdpanther.

If you are OK with cross-builds I am in with Marder III Ausf M. I'll build it as part of my 38(t) GB.

Cheers...

castelnuovo

If you are OK with cross-builds I am in with Marder III Ausf M. I'll build it as part of my 38(t) GB.

Cheers...

Fine by me.

How many in? I'm getting antsy to start the M10......

I'm in, as long as it gets off the ground. I've got 2 sets of German infantry sporting those mean lookin' panzerfausts so I'll prolly make some sort of small diorama for this....time permitting of course.

total american patriot

Thats ironic I just watched the new A-team. As for the saddle charge, I guess you can it's just, is there any product for that in the first place?

 

I don't know about that specifically but there are some AT figures, I've got some Soviet soldiers with AT grenades, AT rifle, AT mine (posed tossing it under a tread ) etc, and I've seen similar sets with Germans and Americans using Bazookas, Panzerfausts etc. If there isn't a set out there with some improvised weapons it certainly wouldn't be hard to alter a figure throwing a grenade into a guy tossing a malotov, sticky bomb etc.  

I've got a couple of AT kits that would work, and have also had my eye on Academy's new Ontos kit. I've got several GBs to get out of the way but as long as the end date is far enough out (like December) for me to get enough bench space cleared then I'd join in.

Ok thats about 55 people. This GB will be from July to Christmas(so that Aaronw can join). I think I explained enough what is buildable in the GB. Myself I have dragons US anti tank  infantry part of  a four figure set. and whatever comes into my stash

Could you create a list so that we can see who is in and with what?

total american patriot

Ok thats about 55 people.

Yikes! 55 peope? Eather that's a typo, or  there is a lot of interest in knocking-out tanks. Man, that's a lot.

Oh, I'm going to chance my subject (if it doesn't cause too much troubble) I found an AMT/Eartl LAV-AT in my stash a few days ago, that I have been itching to build. (My first armored anything.)

I'm not real sure if that would be good for this build (since it's an LAV with a missle launcher) but I think it's worth asking. Let me know if this would work.

Railfan 233

total american patriot:

Ok thats about 55 people.

 

Yikes! 55 peope? Eather that's a typo, or  there is a lot of interest in knocking-out tanks. Man, that's a lot.

Oh, I'm going to chance my subject (if it doesn't cause too much troubble) I found an AMT/Eartl LAV-AT in my stash a few days ago, that I have been itching to build. (My first armored anything.)

I'm not real sure if that would be good for this build (since it's an LAV with a missle launcher) but I think it's worth asking. Let me know if this would work.

I would think the LAV-AT would be an AT vehicle, it is made to kill tanks. I think the AMT / ERTL armor kits were reboxed Italeri. I built the Italeri LAV-25 and it went together with no problems, it should be a good first armor kit for you.

Speaking of modern vehicles where would armored cars with big guns (90mm, 105mm etc) fit? Some people say thay are wheeled tanks, and some say they are tank destroyers. I'm thinking of things like the Italian Centaro, French AML-90, Cadillac Gage V-150 / 90 etc.

Thanks, Aaronw.

So, I'll definately be doing the LAV-AT for this build.

  If the AMT/Eartl kits are accually Italleri, which one is the better deal? (not to distract from the purpose of this thred, but I have been wondering if it's more expensive to buy a kit that companyA made, or to buy the same kit built by CompanyA, but re-boxed and sold by CompanyB.)

So, I'll be knocking out both this group build, and my first armor build with the LAV-AT. So, from now to Christmas. I'll be cutting it close with school, and my other group-build comitments (acually, it will be just 1, since I'm nearing completion of the No aftermarket GB) I will get it done.

I think the answer to buying the original brand or re-boxed brand depends on the price tag on the box.

Really I don't think it makes any difference unless they offer a different set of markings (which they do at times). Re-boxing for other markets is quite common, so sometimes the rebox is cheaper due to taxation (domestic vs import).

Revell of Germany, Tamiya and Zvesda have exchanges with Italeri. Revell and Revell of Germany share kits, Revell and Hasegawa have exchanged kits. In the 80s AMT, and Testors worked with Italeri, and MPC boxed Airfix and Heller kits. The East European companies get even more confusing when it comes to who made the original kit. 

Oh and as far as the LAV-AT its not my GB, I was just saying I'd think it was ok, but you might want to wait for official approval from TAP.

Alright. So, it appears that the cheeper kits win (re-box or not)

I'll wait on the offitial verdict for the LAV-AT

Ralifan 233 - LAV - AT

RBaer - M10 tank destroyer

castelnovo - marder III ausf. m

oddmanrush with two german anti tank infantry

Aaronw - still undecided , remember, as long as it destroyed tanks it counts

and....     me with US anti tank inf. and maybe a 35th scale M18 (maybe in the future)

oh and the 55 people was a typo!!

O.K., the 55 was a typo. Phew, I thought my E-Mail in-box was going to get flooded with many, many up-dates and comments on up-dates.

[Also, on a side note. I'm still going to do a saddle-charge. Something came up, though, and I wasn't able to get the supplies. I'll post photos when I get around to building it. when I do it, I'll post it under scratchbuilding, and I may do it as a WIP]

Then again, don't say anything about the 55 being a typo, and make others think that this is a wildly popular build (no, scratch that, save it for April Fools)

Railfan 233

O.K., the 55 was a typo. Phew, I thought my E-Mail in-box was going to get flooded with many, many up-dates and comments on up-dates.

[Also, on a side note. I'm still going to do a saddle-charge. Something came up, though, and I wasn't able to get the supplies. I'll post photos when I get around to building it. when I do it, I'll post it under scratchbuilding, and I may do it as a WIP]

Then again, don't say anything about the 55 being a typo, and make others think that this is a wildly popular build (no, scratch that, save it for April Fools)

Damn!!

Well, I got the LAV-AT almost finished. I just need to paint and decal it.

I'll try to post photos ASAP.

That's fast, Railfan!

I'm moving a little more slowly, too many irons in the fire at the moment. So far, basic hull and running gear only. The tracks (DS T48) need two links removed, then on to the basic interior Academy supplies. I've used Dragon return rollers for the better detail, and some old MB Models idlers because they were there......

Hey guys, can I join with a recoiless rifle mounted on a Hummer? It's an actual anti-tank vehicle used by various armies.

I have to finish a 1/72 Wyvern by July 21st and after that I could focus on the Hummer.

Here's my up-date photos on the LAV-AT. I'm suprized by how fast it went together (less than 24 hours) All I need to do with it is paint, and decals, and a little wethering, and I can call it done.

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I'm not sure when I'll be able to get around to painting, but I do plan on a simple cammo scheme, sort of like what I've seen on some military trucks around my town. It out to be interesting, since I've never really used an airbrush before to great extent (I've wethered models with it, but I've never painted an entire model before)

Great start Guys! Gosh with these models youre working on, it makes my dragon anti tank infantry look small!