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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, February 3, 2011 11:12 AM

Alright, what the heck, I'm on board.

1/32 Wingnut Wings Sopwith Pup RNAS

Trying to decide which scheme...leaning toward 'ANZAC'

Also looking forward to trying out this wood grain technique:

http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=3009&page=1

 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Thursday, February 3, 2011 11:08 AM

Looking good there HvH. One thing tho, you should take a shot at fixing the print. I'm not sure w/what and it'll darken it. I built an italian floater that had these sweet little wooden catwalk duckboards running back and forth over the top of the fuse. So I found some board images on line and printed them, cut out and paste etc. All looked good for a couple of months until the ink faded and turned bile green. Looked like the crew had a bad batch of pasta lol.

Scharnhorst is back ordered, so it looks like the Felixstowe goes first. I have my Windsock Data File, and most of the Lewis guns. This big old busterd had 8! of them, three double mounts and a pair of waist guns. Take that you pesky Hansa Brandenburgs!

I also picked up some nifty looking wood decals. They are just the grain, printed black on clear. I've never used them before, so I'm eager to try.

 

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 3, 2011 10:39 AM

Ah, hell.. I blew the start date, Didn't I?  Sorry... Putting it away for a while...Embarrassed

Got confused for a bit..

 I'll go back to the other 5 or 6 GBs I'm in, lol...

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, February 3, 2011 8:59 AM

Tiger, I would filed that question in the armor forum.  i don't have th answer but someone there sure will.

You guys are right, more may jump on board but 16 guys with 18 builds ain't shabby.

Hans, going for the early, early start eh?

Marc  

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:54 AM

Count me in, something German armorish or something armorish in general , heck I am not even sure whats available...lol

 

Anyone have any leads to WWI armor kits?

On the bench:

1/35th Tamiya Willi's MB

 

 

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:38 AM

Thanks, the paper worked OK I think..

Wish those mask came in 1/32 and 1/28th... I got an Eduard 1/48th Pfalz D III that would benefit from it though.  Been wanting to do it up as Stachel's Pfalz from The Blue Max for a shadow box scene from that movie, where Stachel crash-lands it after saving Von Richtoffen's life... A forced-perspective dio with the Stachel figure in the foreground, in 1/28th scale, the Pfalz in the center in 1/48th, and at the back, MvR's tripe in 1/72...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:27 AM

Actually, the lozenges were printed on the fabric, not painted...  Just rolls of linen, rolling through printing presses like newspaper..

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  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Thursday, February 3, 2011 5:52 AM

Julez72,

You are going to need more than a lozenge after that tedious painting process!Toast

Imagine the poor ground or factory crews that had to paint lozenges on 1/1 scale units for days on end?

...the horror... the horror

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Thursday, February 3, 2011 5:33 AM

Hans, i like the look of the lozenge paper, it does look like fabric. very coolYes

Speaking of Lozenge camo have you fellas seen these masks before, if your like me and cringe(maybe weep) at the thought of useing lozenge decals over an entire wing then this is perfect...

 

 

 

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 3, 2011 3:46 AM

I got started on the Fokker D VII, and began with the cockpit sidewalls.  I found a decent "Lozenge" pattern for the D VII using "Google Image"and printed out a section of an R/C decal for it on my printer.  Since this is a such a big scale, I didn't use decal paper, but regular paper, and just glued it into the cockpit after shaving and sanding off the molded-in details, like the framework and bracing wires, which I made from stretched sprue.. The paper, IMHO, looks more like doped linen than a decal would too, a happy "accident".. Although the "lozenges" are a bit over-sized, it won't matter or be very noticable (IMNSHO) once the fuselage is closed up and the rest of the greeblies are installed, like the throttle, flares and pistol, and document bag...

 Here's the cockpit floorboard.  I added stretched sprue cables for the guns and the stick-mounted auxillary throttle lever, and rebuilt the floor compass...

I test-fitted the cockpit floor here, after finishing up the sidewall details, recovering the seat in medical tape for a "leather" look, and added light grey canvas "lacing" for it..  The panel was painted with "wood" color of my own, and kit decals used for the instrument faces.  They're quite accuarte, at least according to the pics in my Refs...

 I also added a scratch-built manual fuel pump, made form stretched sprue.. The aux throttle on the stick was also carefully bent to the "closed" position.  You can see that rebuilt the hand-pump, after deciding the first one (shown at the top) was too small in diameter..

Next step is to tackle that pretty BMW engine... It's OK by itself, especially when you take into account that the mold is about twenty years old... But enough is exposed to make it beg for a bit more plumbing, wiring, and some work on the engine bearers, since I want to be able to remove the inspection panels, which are quite large. ...

But first, I wanna keep these two kinda close together in construction, so onto the S.P.A.D. cockpit... It's excellent, and considering that it's a kit molded in 1957 (I'm building an original release that's two years older than I am (I'm 52 in two more weeks, lol) here, which should make any collector reading this vapor-lock, it's probably the finest kit sRevell ever made...

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 3, 2011 3:17 AM

Julez72

 wing_nut:

Yes it is Mike.  There are others out there though that I would have thought would have joined up.

 

More will jump in as we go along i would think, especially once building starts....

It doesn't hurt to start yourself a little WIP thread in the appropriate forum  for your build... A lot of folks don't "jump hooches" and you might a draw one or two that simply aren't aware of the GB, since they never come in here...

I'm maintaining a WIP thread in the Aircraft Forum about  my "Hurricat" build for the "Secret Santa" GB as well as the GB thread WIP-shots. I just don't copy & paste it in there though (except for the pictures), I actually re-write it, with only the occasional mention of the Secret Santa GB...  That seems to skirt the forum rule against "Cross-Posting" in multiple forums..

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, February 3, 2011 2:19 AM

I gotta agree with Jules here, Marc. Once this guy starts picking up speed, it's bound to draw more entrants (although what we've got here so far ain't too shabby).

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:51 AM

wing_nut

Yes it is Mike.  There are others out there though that I would have thought would have joined up.

More will jump in as we go along i would think, especially once building starts....

 

 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 6:47 PM

Yes it is Mike.  There are others out there though that I would have thought would have joined up.

TD,  if I can bring joy to someones life my work here is done... but I'm not leaving regardlessStick out tongue

Marc  

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Posted by TD4438 on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 10:07 AM

wing_nut

TD if Jmart is correct, and I have no reason to doubt that he is, an “inaccurate but close enough” 1918 or 1916 config is good for the build.  So is that going to be a go for you?  And I iwll update the roster if so.

AWESOME!

Count me in with an Iron Duke as well as the Mk.I.

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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 10:01 AM

This is shaping up to be one heck of a GB! Yes

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 9:47 AM

Waikong, if you really want to do that one I would put the word out on whatever forum you hang out in.  And yes, I ended a sentence with a prepositionWhistling.  Seriously, I bet someone has an extra set in their box.

Marc  

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Posted by Julez72 on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 9:12 AM

Man thats a nice looking ship....Looking forward too seeing yours BondoYes

Waikong, love the Roland, very cool...

 

 

 

 

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Posted by waikong on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 9:02 AM

wing_nut

You're in.  Are you gonna do the one that looks like a fish with scales?

I would like to, but my kits is an older boxing of it and doesn't have the scales decals. After Market decals are pretty slim picking for this plane to, I'm thinking of doing one that was piloted by Manfred Richtofen. Something different from the usual Fokker Dr that's associated with him.

 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:12 AM

TD if Jmart is correct, and I have no reason to doubt that he is, an “inaccurate but close enough” 1918 or 1916 config is good for the build.  So is that going to be a go for you?  And I iwll update the roster if so.

Marc  

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Posted by JMart on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:03 AM

Bill/Bondoman – Look forward to your Scharnhorst. You are right; the Revell Emden is hard to find, I was lucky to get a new copy couple years ago from Free Time Hobbies, as well as the even harder to find GMM PE fret (for both Dresden and Emden). Prepare to waaaay overpay for that PE fret, but snag it if you find it!

 

TD- IIRC, the Airfix Iron Duke is an “inaccurate but close enough” 1918 or 1916 config.  Problem was, Airfix made the plans while looking at plans/pics from her early 20s refit, but fitted her as WWI configuration. But most people simply build “as is” with minor modifications (I believe you omit one of the radar masts?). All the builds I have seen of the Airfix kit are “Great War” era:

 

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/bb/hms/ironduke-600-ph/ph-index.html

 

/forums/p/84855/827614.aspx

 

I don’t think the differences are major or a deal breaker, IMHO.

PS - If anyone finds an Iron Duke sold my "MRC", thats the same kit (Airfix) but sold via the US distributor.

 

 

Anyone interested in the Naval aspects of WWI, borrow a copy of Castles of Steel by Robert K Massie.

 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 12:32 AM

wing_nut

YO Bondo... someone is doing a Scharnhorst on HS

http://www.clubhyper.com/forums/plasticpixframe.htm

Ah, that is the WW2 Scharnhorst. Germany put up a second pair of Scharnhorst/ Gneisenau ships in the 30's, really first rate battleshipish big cruisers. Just goes to show that the war to end all etc. wasn't.

No, this is the WW1 version, of an era with the Manila Bay USN ships like Olympia.

Although this pic is of a really lovely 1/700 model. Imagine that about 7" long. By Bernd Villhauer.

Mine will be 1/350 and not half as nice.

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 8:00 PM

YO Bondo... someone is doing a Scharnhorst on HS

http://www.clubhyper.com/forums/plasticpixframe.htm

Marc  

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 7:14 PM

I think this kit is the WWI configuration.A quick bit of research seems to confirm this.

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/great_britain/battleships/iron_duke/hms_iron_duke.htm

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 7:08 PM

No back dating for me.I ain't that good.Just thought I'd check.

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 6:58 PM

Sounds like a back date conversion is in order!

Least he is honest as not likely anyone would have noticed the difference on the post-war modifications.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 6:40 PM

I am being pretty flexible as far as rules go but if a kit is a later version, such as a refit of the same ship, that did not serve during the conflict i would say no.

Marc  

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 6:31 PM

I plan on getting the Airfix 1/600 Iron Duke.Would that qualify for this build?

She did serve in WWI,but I believe the kit is a much later version of the ship.

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 4:11 PM

You're in.  Are you gonna do the one that looks like a fish with scales?

Marc  

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Posted by waikong on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 1:51 PM

Hey, I'm in, been wanting to build this one from my stash for ages...

Eduard 1/48 Roland C II

My website: http://waihobbies.wkhc.net

   

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