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Floatplane/Seaplane Group Build 2012
Posted by Old Ordie on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 8:06 PM

Hi all,

DoogsATX has graciously offered to let me take over maintenance of his Floatie thingie/Seaplane GB, as he isn't presently able to give it the time he thinks it deserves.  I love seaplanes - all of them.  If a man or woman can fly it to and from the surface of the water, it's cool, and more than cool with me.  Thanks, Doogs!  I won't let you down.

I decided to start a new thread so I might better maintain the top post or two.  I'm changing the name a little, to the Floatplane/Seaplane Group Build 2012, so as to help keep things straight with the earlier thread.  Also, the time limit is extended to 12/31/12.  Edit - The time limit has been extended once more to 1/31/13 - end Edit.  All builds should be completed by then.

This group build is limited to:  floatplanes, seaplanes, catapault planes (with floats!) and amphibians of all types, military and civilian, and of all eras.  It must be a plane that actually existed and flew at some point in history.  It must have been capable of taking off from, and landing in the water.  Reasonable "what ifs" will be considered - run it by me.  I don't know, at this moment, what a reasonable "what if" is, exactly, but I'll know it when I see it.

Everyone who was in the Floatie Thingie/Seaplane GB is automatically a legacy member of this one, if they want to continue.  Whatever you were building, whatever its completion status, is still your build.  Please post photos and keep us updated.  Please take the badge/banner below for your signature line (if you don't finish, give it back!).

New members are welcome to join anytime.  Your build must be no more than 40% finished when you join.  Please, no doubles.  Just declare yourself and your kit, and your in.

OK, everybody, let's make this fun!  Big Smile

The Group Build banner:

I'm always open for questions/comments/suggestions.

Thanks,
Ordie

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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Posted by stoutfella on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 8:14 PM

Cool!  Big Smile

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by Old Ordie on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 8:40 PM

Here's the lineup:

Old Ordie - Tamiya 1:48 Nakajima A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

stoutfella - Monogram 1:48 Vought-Sikorsky OS2U Kingfisher

Helo H-34 - Mach 2 1:72 Convair YF2Y-1 Sea Dart

M9130 - Testors Classics 1:48 Curtiss R3C-2 floatplane

PaperPanzer -  Hasegawa 1:72 Kawanishi E7K1 Type 94 Model 1 recon seaplane (Alf) w/ Catapult

bondoman - Tamiya 1:72 Seiran

taxtp - Amodel 1:72 Grumman Wildcatfish

waynec - TBA

waikong - unspecified 1:48 Japanese seaplane

JTBuckley - Revell 1:32 Arado - Complete!  10/16/2012

troublemaker66 - Revell-Monogram 1:72 Grumman  Albatross - Completed (pending), 10/17/2012

checkmateking02 - Trumpeter 1:700 scale US Navy OS2U-1, multiple - First to Finish!  8/13/2012

JMart - TBA

Star

All other legacy members, please let me know you're still with us, and I will add you to the list! (If you've finished, send me a photo, or post a photo on this thread of your finished model, and I'll put it right by your name, up here, on the list.)

New members welcome!

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:09 PM

I'm still in with Mach 2's YF2Y-1 Sea Dart .

Looking forward to seeing everyone else's WIP

John .

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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:59 PM

Good one Ordie, great badge too. Imagine being in that position ?

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by PaperPanzer on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 11:33 PM

Well, I have several other builds going on at the same time, but I think I can squeeze in my Japanese seaplane at some point. This will be my first biplane by the way, any helpful tips?

Auctung! Panzer!

- "And now for something completely different..."- Monty Python's Flying Circus


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Posted by Old Ordie on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:32 AM

PaperPanzer

Well, I have several other builds going on at the same time, but I think I can squeeze in my Japanese seaplane at some point. This will be my first biplane by the way, any helpful tips?

Actually, my next biplane will be my first, so - any helpful hints out there?  LOL.  It's in another GB, a Grumman Duck, and I haven't started it yet.  So, I'll be following your build with much interest.  Please post photos and share your problems/solutions.  I'm wondering about how to do the wires between the wings, personally.

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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Posted by waynec on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 12:36 PM

i'm in, especially with the extension. not sure what i am going to build but i know a couple folks want to see the italian CANT Z-501.  may do a BOEING 314. since i have a few in the stash. let me finish 3 partials to clear of some work benches and decide.

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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Posted by Old Ordie on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 12:52 PM

waynec

i'm in, especially with the extension. not sure what i am going to build but i know a couple folks want to see the italian CANT Z-501.  may do a BOEING 314. since i have a few in the stash. let me finish 3 partials to clear of some work benches and decide.

Cool.  I'll list you as a TBA on the lineup card until you decide.

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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Posted by JTBuckley on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 2:05 PM

Awesome!, this is my first GB. I am currently working on revell's 1:32 arado. I'm building it oob and enjoying every second. I am in the decal/finishing/weathering phase but have taken plenty of pictures

along the way. I'll post them when I have time/figure out how to do it. Thanks for picking this up.

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Posted by Old Ordie on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 3:06 PM

JTBuckley

Awesome!, this is my first GB. I am currently working on revell's 1:32 arado. I'm building it oob and enjoying every second. I am in the decal/finishing/weathering phase but have taken plenty of pictures

along the way. I'll post them when I have time/figure out how to do it. Thanks for picking this up.

You're welcome.  Looking forward to the pictures.  Smile

Ordie

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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Posted by Old Ordie on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 3:35 PM

taxtp

Good one Ordie, great badge too. Imagine being in that position ?

Cheers

Tony

The photo on the Floatplane/Seaplane Group Build 2012 badge was taken from the deck of the USS Tang, SS-306. It depicts an OS2U Kingfisher from the USS North Carolina, BB-55, flown by Lt. (jg) John A. Burns, with Aubrey J. Gill, ARM2, as his radioman.  On the wings are seven rescued Navy fliers. The occassion was the April 29-30, 1944 - and last - raid on Truk Lagoon. While the Hellcats and Avengers are credited with with destroying well over 100 Japanese aircraft on the ground in that raid, 26 American planes, crewed by 46 naval airmen, were shot down over the lagoon in so-doing. The Japanese AAA, no longer having ships in the lagoon to protect, was all concentrated kill-box fashion, right around the airfield. Most of the airmen from the stricken planes parachuted or ditched into the lagoon in water too shallow for submarines to run submerged. Also, most of the lagoon lay under the observers and guns of Japanese artillary emplacements, making it too great a risk for subs to run on the surface. Every available seaplane and floatplane in the area was thus deployed to rescue the downed fliers.

Burns was initially working in tandem with another OS2U, piloted by a Lt. Dowdle. He watched from the air as Dowdle put his Kingfisher down on waves reaching as high as five feet, only to be immediately flipped over by a strong gust of wind. Undeterred, Burns made a rough landing in the water, gathered up Dowdle, his radioman, and the Hellcat pilot Dowdle was trying to pick up when he capsized.  Being too heavy for takeoff, Burns then proceeded, under fire, to taxi out of the lagoon and over the reef, where he was able to deliver the three fliers to the waiting USS Tang. He then headed back into the lagoon.

At one point, a gust of wind almost tipped Burns' plane over, but Petty Officer Gill deftly scrambled out to the tip of the high wing, and brought it back down on the water. Locating  and picking up seven more aircrew while meandering the lagoon under fire, Burns then taxied back out over the reef and delivered them to the Tang, too, after waiting five hours for the sub to reappear. Low on fuel, and their plane having popped a good number of rivets while being buffeted by the rough seas in the lagoon, Burns and Gill were taken aboard the Tang along with the ten men they'd rescued that day. The venerable Kingfisher was then destroyed by machinegun fire from the Tang, having way more than justified its cost. More than half of the 46 downed Americans were rescued from Truk Lagoon by seaplanes and floatplanes.

Lt. (jg) John A. Burns was awarded the Navy Cross for his actions.

That's one of the many reasons I love floatplanes. They have a great part in a rich, largely untold history of rescues and humanitarian deeds, many undertaken at great personal risk.

Here are some more photos taken of Burns' plane, etc., from the Tang that day:  The first is another view of the OS2U waiting for the Tang to close up; the second is of rescued aircrew being brought aboard the Tang; and the third is of Burns' plane being destroyed by machinegun fire from the Tang.  Enjoy!  

 

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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Posted by JTBuckley on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 4:18 PM

OK now I think I did this right...

 I was excited that someone picked up the seaplane GB. I have a ton of pictures built up.. I still have a ways to go on this plane.. and its far from perfect but I love it. I'll be posting  a ton of pictures over the next day or so of my progress so far. I'm building revell germany's 1:32 arado ar196a-3. It's a clumsy looking plane if you ask me but still very appealing. So here's two pictures- around when I started to where it is now...

This is the main fuselage of the plane after decals a few coats of future.. I ruined that big beautiful T3 LH decal on the other side of the plane. I'm waiting to hear back from revell germany I think it's going to take a ridiculous amount of time to get here.

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Posted by JTBuckley on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 4:26 PM

Here's the top of the right wing.. I painted with tamiya acrylics - Black green & dark green to simulate rlm 72 & 73. I masked with tamiya tape. I left it on too long and left a nasty residue all over both sides. I misted on a few coats of fuure and wetsanded with 1500 grit paper and it took care of most of it. After that a couple more coats of future and a wash with oils and mona lisa spirits. This is them right after their first coat of testors dullcote.

and the bottom...

 

 

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Posted by JTBuckley on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 4:41 PM

And the pontoons..I glued the halves together On the inside with plenty of testors cement. I taped them together for a while then ran a bead of ca down the bottom of the seam and sanded it smooth.

I weighted them with pinewood derby car weights and plenty of white glue.

Building:  Trumpeter 1:350 Pyotr Velikiy

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 4:43 PM

I'll watch with interest Jeff, I've had my eye on that kit for some time. Looks good so far.

Great sequence of photos Ordie, and a fascinating story. Really helps to bring the subject to life.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by JTBuckley on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 4:47 PM

Taped up while the glue sets...

The fit of the piece covering the bottom pontoon-halves was pretty poor. I sanded it down with and filled the gap with ca. I later rescribed the line on the front of the pontoon.

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Posted by JTBuckley on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 4:54 PM

Here's one after masking--painting--future--

Then with decals...

Building:  Trumpeter 1:350 Pyotr Velikiy

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Posted by stoutfella on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 4:58 PM

taxtp

I'll watch with interest Jeff, I've had my eye on that kit for some time. Looks good so far.

Great sequence of photos Ordie, and a fascinating story. Really helps to bring the subject to life.

Cheers

Tony

Agreed, Ordie. That's a terrific story I'll keep in mind as I get going on my Kingfisher.

Jeff: Nice work so far. I'll follow your progress.

Cheers,

Stoutfella

On the bench: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya P51-B

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Posted by randypandy831 on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:29 PM

has anyone built italeri's arado?

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

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Posted by Old Ordie on Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:04 PM

I haven't started it yet, but it is on the elevator (a small shelf at the starboard end of my workbench, where kits go for a spell after they leave the stash pile).  This will be my build for this GB:

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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Posted by JTBuckley on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:17 AM

I just noticed the first post says ... "Your build must be no more than 40% finished when you join" - Should I be posting my progress somewhere else?

Building:  Trumpeter 1:350 Pyotr Velikiy

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Posted by Old Ordie on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:26 PM

JTBuckley

I just noticed the first post says ... "Your build must be no more than 40% finished when you join" - Should I be posting my progress somewhere else?

JTB,

You're absolutely posting in the right place.  Please, don't stop Surprise!   The sentence you quoted was for newbies just coming into the build.  I'm cutting them a break because I took this build over after it was already started, and I'd like to make it easy for new people to join.  Hence, they can join with a kit they've already started, as long as it isn't more than 40% completed.  It wouldn't apply to you in any event, 'cause you're a legacy group member from Doog's original build.

Sorry for any confusion my prose may have caused.

Again, please keep posting your build photos.  I, for one, am following with interest.  And help youself to the badge, anytime.

Ordie

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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Posted by JTBuckley on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:31 PM

Ohhhhhh. I understand. Again, this is my first gb and I didn't want to start by breaking the rules! Thanks for clearing it up. I have tons more pictures I'll post when I figure out a suitable sequence to put them in.

Also, I have no idea how to use the badge..? Any help?

Building:  Trumpeter 1:350 Pyotr Velikiy

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Posted by Old Ordie on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:59 PM

JTBuckley

... Also, I have no idea how to use the badge..? Any help?

This is the first GB I've ever run, so we're both learning as we go Smile.  As for the badge, I will help you.  First, go to your Community Settings.  Where it says "Signature Line", type something in - anything, what kit you are currently building, a witty saying, something inspirational, whatever -something that represents you.  Then scroll down to the save button and click it.  This is to help you become familiar with your signature line, how it works.  When you've gone that far, PM me, and we'll take the next step.  I'd explain how to take and post the badge now, but gotta run, unfortunately.  I'll probably PM you back tomorrow afternoon or evening.

Looking forward to seeing the new photos of your build.

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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Posted by M9130 on Thursday, July 12, 2012 7:21 PM

Here is my progress on the Curtiss so far:

Sanded, dry fitted, and beggining to glue sub-assemblies.  I dulled some Tamiya Dull Aluminum with Tamiya Light Gray to airbrush the prop.

Starting to paint, I'm using testors MM and Testors paints for the rest of the model.  I'm thinking about pre-shading the inner wing panels with some red and yellow under the gold to better simulate the brass radiator sheets.

 

Check out my flickr page:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/morepowder/sets/

Cheers,

- Phil

 

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Posted by Old Ordie on Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:59 PM

M9130 - That's a nifty little floater.  I'm looking forward to following along as you build it.

Build members - If you would like to put the build badge on your signature line, but don't know how, or are having problems doing so, please don't hesitate to PM me about it, and I'll help you out.  I know some of you don't do badges, and that's ok by me, but, to  those of you who do, I think it would look good to see a few more of them flying on the forum's signature lines ...

 

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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Posted by JTBuckley on Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:42 AM

 

SO Here are the completed floats..I "chipped" the paint with a bit of 800 grit sandpaper and applied a dark wash with lamp oil paint with mona lisa sprits. I've now hit what I've been dreading this entire build... Rigging.

I bought some wonder wire but it's too thin and looks out of scale. I've been reading up on rigging tutorials but I'm still terrified- I've never rigged anything before. Any advice??

Building:  Trumpeter 1:350 Pyotr Velikiy

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Posted by JTBuckley on Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:44 AM

Also, good stuff m9130- I'll be watching.

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Posted by Old Ordie on Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:54 PM

JTBuckley

 

... I bought some wonder wire but it's too thin and looks out of scale. I've been reading up on rigging tutorials but I'm still terrified- I've never rigged anything before. Any advice??

First off, great job on the floats.  The wash looks great.  I think its going to be a great Arado.

I wish I had rigguig advice to give you (anybody?), but I've nbever done it myself.  I have a biplane coming up in another group build (Grumman Duck), and I'd appreciate some advice on it myself.  Where did you get the Wonder Wire?  That is, from whom did you purchase it?  I just might buy some ... I read an article on the web about it some time back, and it looked like the way to go on rigging.  I have been thinking about pulling some sprue for it, also, but I'm really not sure what to do.

Flight deck:  Hasegawa 1:48 P-40E; Tamiya 1:48 A6M2 N Type 2 ('Rufe')

Elevators:  Airfix 1:72 Grumman Duck; AM 1:72 F-4J

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