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Lockheed Martin Skunk Works September 1 2016 - June 30 2018 Group Build

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Lockheed Martin Skunk Works September 1 2016 - June 30 2018 Group Build
Posted by greentracker98 on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:02 AM

To comemerate Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works. We will begin on the 77th anniversery of Hitlers march into Poland and end on the 75th anniversery of the founding of Kelly Johnson's Skunk Works (I couldn't find an exact date in June for the Skunk Works founding, So we will go with June 30th)

This will comemerate the U.S. Army’s Air Tactical Service Command (ATSC) meeting with Lockheed Aircraft Corporation to express the dire need for a jet fighter to counter a rapidly growing German jet threat.

 

How the Skunk Works® Got Its Name

It was the wartime year of 1943 when Kelly Johnson brought together a hand-picked team of Lockheed Aircraft Corporation engineers and manufacturing people to rapidly and secretly complete the XP-80 project. Because the war effort was in full swing there was no space available at the Lockheed facility for Johnson’s effort. Consequently, Johnson's organization operated out of a rented circus tent next to a manufacturing plant that produced a strong odor, which permeated the tent.

Each member of Johnson’s team was cautioned that design and production of the new XP-80 must be carried out in strict secrecy. No one was to discuss the project outside the small organization, and team members were even warned to be careful how they answered the phones.

A team engineer named Irv Culver was a fan of Al Capp's newspaper comic strip, "Li'l Abner," in which there was a running joke about a mysterious and malodorous place deep in the forest called the "Skonk Works." There, a strong beverage was brewed from skunks, old shoes and other strange ingredients.

One day, Culver's phone rang and he answered it by saying "Skonk Works, inside man Culver speaking." Fellow employees quickly adopted the name for their mysterious division of Lockheed. "Skonk Works" became "Skunk Works."

The once informal nickname is now the registered trademark of the company: Skunk Works®.

 

To start things off, I'm posting Clarence "Kelly" Johnsons 14 Rules & Practices

1. The Skunk Works manager must be delegated practically complete control of his program in all aspects. He should report to a division president or higher.

2. Strong but small project offices must be provided both by the military and industry.

3. The number of people having any connection with the project must be restricted in an almost vicious manner. Use a small number of good people (10% to 25% compared to the so-called normal systems).

4. A very simple drawing and drawing release system with great flexibility for making changes must be provided.

5. There must be a minimum number of reports required, but important work must be recorded thoroughly.

6. There must be a monthly cost review covering not only what has been spent and committed but also projected costs to the conclusion of the program.

7. The contractor must be delegated and must assume more than normal responsibility to get good vendor bids for subcontract on the project. Commercial bid procedures are very often better than military ones.

8. The inspection system as currently used by the Skunk Works, which has been approved by both the Air Force and Navy, meets the intent of existing military requirements and should be used on new projects. Push more basic inspection responsibility back to subcontractors and vendors. Don't duplicate so much inspection.

9. The contractor must be delegated the authority to test his final product in flight. He can and must test it in the initial stages. If he doesn't, he rapidly loses his competency to design other vehicles.

10. The specifications applying to the hardware must be agreed to well in advance of contracting. The Skunk Works practice of having a specification section stating clearly which important military specification items will not knowingly be complied with and reasons therefore is highly recommended.

11. Funding a program must be timely so that the contractor doesn't have to keep running to the bank to support government projects.

12. There must be mutual trust between the military project organization and the contractor, the very close cooperation and liaison on a day-to-day basis. This cuts down misunderstanding and correspondence to an absolute minimum.

13. Access by outsiders to the project and its personnel must be strictly controlled by appropriate security measures.

14. Because only a few people will be used in engineering and most other areas, ways must be provided to reward good performance by pay not based on the number of personnel supervised.

Further Rules & Regulations as well as a GB Badge will be forthcoming

A.K.A. Ken                Making Modeling Great Again

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Posted by greentracker98 on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:03 AM

Roster

A.K.A. Ken                Making Modeling Great Again

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, August 27, 2016 12:54 PM

I'm in. Don't know with what, but I'm in.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by greentracker98 on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:10 PM

My apologies everyone, I've been in the hospital. I don't think I'll be able to host this build.Please anyone take it and run with it. Keep the rules, change the rules Its up to you and do the same with the dates

Well I hope some one takes this over. I think will be a while until I can really get in to building like before.

A.K.A. Ken                Making Modeling Great Again

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Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:47 PM

Ken, sorry you are having health issues, get well soon!

If you like I will host this build till you get back on your feet.  I would prefer that only products devloped during the Kelly Johnson/Ben Rich era be allowed, not including the F-22, because although the Skunk Works was almost certainly involved in preliminary studies, the way the program developed during testing and production was a lesson in why Kelly Johnson would not do it that way.

So, for only Skunk Works sole developments it's the P-80, F-104, X-7, Have Blue, F-117, SR-71, and D-21.  If any one can find a model of the hydrogen powered concept called Project Suntan, that would be a go.

However, to make things more interesting and to highlight the contributions Johnson made, I also think it may be appropriate include the other airplanes that Kelly Johnson was chief engineer on or played a major role in design development, those would be the Orion 9D, Lockheed 10 and 12 Electras, the P-38, the 14/18/Ventura series, the Constellation, P2V,  XF-90, F-94, C-130, and the Jetstar.  Just to show that it wasn't a perfect run, the Saturn transport.  Not sure there was ever a model of that.

I'm probably gonna get fired anyway, might as well have my sayBig Smile

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.htm

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, September 24, 2016 10:58 PM

Hibbard better get his due.

Modeling is an excuse to buy books

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, September 24, 2016 11:13 PM

That He Should.  Your assignment is to provide a concise assessment of Hal Hibbard's contributions to Lockheed, and especially how he managed Kelly and his froshus temper.

By the way, where's the "boat" yer do'in for the FAA???

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.htm

 

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Posted by Daniel Ficke on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:57 PM

I'm in but it's TBD.

Daniel J. Ficke

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