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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:45 AM
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Ok Im pretty much done with my Horten 229. Didn't turn out exactly as planned but that's ok. Camo was done with liquid mask. I lost the decals so they were done with stencils. I lost the antannae too, doh!!! Still needs some work done on the intakes.


EDIT: here is a pic of the belly. Nothing special. Some ribbing added to the gear doors. Had to sand the right tire to get it to sit level.
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Posted by Gilmund on Friday, September 9, 2005 5:05 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by johnforster
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Please don't let the thread die out again! Spam it up!
Cheers,
John


I'm trying not to... Guys, where are you, show me what you gotBig Smile [:D]
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Posted by Gilmund on Saturday, September 3, 2005 7:24 PM
Thanks guys, I've made some progress and I'll give you an update soon.

Darwin - I don't know if you read this thread anymore but if you do I forgot to tell you that I really liked your SR-71C. What exactly is the "Hangar Queen Dress"?

Best /Johan
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:52 AM
Caine - Excellent 117 looks great.
John - That B-2 is great. The sheer size is a definite crowd pleaser at shows or in your house. Do you have room for it? hehe. Now that Iv'e seen yours that is now on my todo list.
Johan - Most excellent work on your X-35 and YF-23. Thanks for explaining your "checker" procedure.

Here is some progress on my 1/72 Horten 229A. The kit came only with a seat and that was it. The rest of the pit is plastic and brass scraps, probably not accurate but looks ok I guess. The landing gear is on and the belly is painted. I added some ribs to the gear bay doors. 4 things left todo: (1) paint the wells, (2) put the gear bay doors on, (3) canopy, (4) brown and green leopard camo. I'll post more when finished.

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Posted by adrake2 on Saturday, August 20, 2005 7:00 AM
Johan,
I disagree, it looks beautiful. I applaud your attention to detail and it's the interesting tid-bits that make models shine. Thanks for the pics and best of luck in continuing with the work.
-Aaron
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Posted by Gilmund on Friday, July 29, 2005 12:46 AM
Continued...

I´ve cut of all moving parts from the YF-23 and will position them slightly dropped.

The exhaust was a bit of a challange. The YF-23 has what I guess is some sort of heat absorbing and/or resistant plates on the walls of the exhaust. The plates varies slightly in color and it looks kind of like the bottom of the space shuttle (check out theese pix).





I thought it would look cool to do something like that, so I decided to give it a shot.
First of all, the walls of the exhaust are not very deep, and they don´t touch the floor either. I had to extend them with sheet styrene both inwards and down.



This progress required constant dry fitting. When all four walls was extendend and smooth, I painted it with Moded Master Metalizer exhaust. This would be the first of four different shades in the pattern.

With the first shade painted and dry, I mesured the size of the exhaust "triangle" and looked at several reference photos and drew a scale drawing of the pattern. I then numbered the squares from 1-4 at random. I did the drawing on a large post-it, so the glue strip covers the entire triangle



I then placed a second glue strip under the one with the drawing and then cut out the #2 squares. I then got a template of all the #2 squares



This was repeated for the other numbers and them mirrored for the right side walls. I ended up with 6 different templates.

With the teplate I could paint the first shade. To make it appear more random without cutting more templates, I used different numbered templates for different walls but the same shade (Metalizer gun metal was used with template #2 on wall #1 but with template #3 on wall #2 and so on)



Here´s the second shade painted



And here´s the finihed result. It´s a bit shiny, but I think it will look better after a coat of clear flat. This took many hours to do, and the result isn´t exactly what I hoped for. But it looks somewhat interesting atleast...





Thanks for reading this long story /Johan
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Posted by Gilmund on Friday, July 29, 2005 12:01 AM
Thanks for the kind words John!

Well, I signed up on this GB with an F-177, but since I´m still waiting for my PE-set to arrive, I starded on an X-32 and YF-23 (both Italeri 1:72). I hope this is OK with you guys...

The X-32 is coming along just fine, basicly no modifications at all. So far I have:
Painted and installed the cocpit, assembeled and painted the exhaust, painted the wheels, gear struts, gear doors and gear bays. I´ve installed lead nose weight. The intake is tricky, but I´ve sanded and primed it. It needs only a little smoothing and paint and then I can close the fuselage.

The YF-23 is coming along nice aswell, and since I´m parallell building with the X-32 I´m finished with the cocpit, gears, doors and bays.

After I painted the insides and lips of the intakes I realised that they had to be modified. You can see in the pic where I´ve cut the plastic. the intakes has been smoothed and repainted.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:18 PM
Definitely the shape of the future! Thumbs Up [tup] Nice build, Johan! Even if it's really inaccurate, it still looks like an aircraft of some type! Tongue [:P]
Cheers,
John
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Posted by Gilmund on Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:13 PM
I`ve finally snaped some pictures of the 1/72 X-35 I´ve been building. It has been finished for several months, but for some reason I haven´t taken any pictures until now.

I´m not too pleased with my build, but not totally dissapointed eather. The Italeri kit was straightforward to build but has a lot of noticeable flaws; all of the gear doors are wrong, the canopy should be two pieces, the ejection seat is wrong and there are several details and markings missing, especially on the sides.

Concidering that this is the plane of the future, my guess is that there will be several more acurate kits in the years to come, so I decided to not attemt to correct some of these flaws.

The only thing I did was to open up the intakes and modify the exaust nozzle to upright position and close its doors (the kit comes with the option of nozzle down olny). I left out the national insignias because there are non on any pictures I´ve seen of the real thing. I also modified the nose gear so there is only attachment on one side.

Enough talk, it´s not much to see, but here it is...








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Posted by overkillphil on Monday, July 18, 2005 10:48 AM
I don't think the lack of detail in the B-2 has anything to do with classification, I think Testor's was just sort of lazy. I really wish some other company would kit that bird out. Well, I thought this build was over. I finally ordered a replacement canopy for my X-32, so maybe I'll be able to finish this one after all since all it needs is paint and final assembly.
my favorite headache/current project: 1/48 Panda F-35 "I love the fact that dumb people don't know who they are. I hope I'm not one of them" -Scott Adams
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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Monday, July 18, 2005 7:26 AM
your Spirit looks great so far, and it is a huge plane.

My Berkut has met with some FOD while waiting for the photo booth, I'll have to fix it today and then shoot the pics. Hopefully that will happen this week!!!!

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by yardbird78 on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:47 PM
Nice work on the B-2. I am (was) a career SAC Weenie, so the big bombers are a favorite of mine.

Darwin, O.F. Alien [alien]

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The B-52 and me, we have grown old, gray and overweight together.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:08 PM
It's not bad. Some of the larger moldings (wings, main fuselage) are a little tricky to put together, so patience is required for that. But all up, it's a lot of fun and builds up into a great model, very imposing!
Cheers,
John
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Posted by caine on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:09 AM
Very nice! How is that kit to build? I've considered adding it to my stealth collection. Hopefully I'll get my F-117 done in the next week or two. I'll try to keep things alive...
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 20, 2005 9:39 PM
I guess I better pull this GB off the fourth page and back to the fore again!! Here are some in-progress shots of my 1/72 B-2.


Front port side, w/out cockpit or windscreen.



2 shots of the underside, showing the bomb and landing gear bays. Testors has no molded any detail into these, apparently because they are classified. I think some 'imaginative guessimation' is in order! Big Smile [:D]


Another shot of the underside.


Testors tells you to put 1 penny into the nose to hold it down....but I found that 4 20c pieces only do the trick! And they're heavier than a quarter!


The B-2's payload of 8 nuclear missiles.


Did I mention that it was big? This is the B-2 next to my 1/72 F/A-18 Hornet!

Please don't let the thread die out again! Spam it up!
Cheers,
John
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Posted by Gilmund on Monday, May 30, 2005 6:30 PM
oops, I see now that you've already said that. Must be going dyslectic. Thanks caine, I think it looks great.
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Posted by caine on Monday, May 30, 2005 3:26 PM
The kit canopy was already tinted, I did not do anything to it. The color was put in the parts when it was manufactured at the factory. At first I was a little disapointed that they pre-tinted the canopy, but I think it turned out to look really nice.
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Posted by Gilmund on Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:33 PM
caine - I´m sorry to bother you again, but can you describe how you did the tinting(thinning ratio, paint brand, paint on the inside or outside of the clear part).

Sorry that I didn't get it.

Thanks /Johan
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Posted by jinithith2 on Sunday, May 29, 2005 12:42 PM
very nice caine!
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Posted by caine on Sunday, May 29, 2005 12:15 PM
The canopy on the Academy kit comes tinted in the orange color. The overall color was about a 70/30 mix of Polly-S "NATO Tri Color Black" and "Scale Black".
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Posted by Gilmund on Sunday, May 29, 2005 6:21 AM
wow caine that looks great! What did you use for the overall color and the tinted clear part.
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Posted by caine on Sunday, May 29, 2005 2:05 AM
Well, it's been a while, but here are a few pictures of my progress on my 1/48 Academy F-117.



The exhaust I painted using Testors Magnesium Metalizer followed by some light passes with Exhaust Metalizer. Note that I also decided to paint the air vents using a darker black than the rest of the fuselage to make them stand out better.



I dedcided to try and simulate the strange bronze color that can be seen in the intake grill at certain angles. I airbrushed Tamiya "Metalic Brown" from the side of the grill and then painted over it with black from the front of the aircraft. That left some of the metalic color visible from the side angles.


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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Saturday, May 28, 2005 2:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jinithith2

guys, have we decide upon an official end date?
if it's June 2005, I'm dead cos I'm going to ROK over breakBig Smile [:D]Sad [:(]
if the end date can't be postponed, I'm gonna have to drop out.
I've already started on the cockpit, but I habe serious doubt about finishing before the end date.
I still have a ferdy to finish.
If I knew that I would join so many other GB's I wouldn't have signed up for this.... sorry guys.


i do believe that the end date has been extended to the end of this year. Hope that this news cheers you up!!!

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by jinithith2 on Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:29 PM
guys, have we decide upon an official end date?
if it's June 2005, I'm dead cos I'm going to ROK over breakBig Smile [:D]Sad [:(]
if the end date can't be postponed, I'm gonna have to drop out.
I've already started on the cockpit, but I habe serious doubt about finishing before the end date.
I still have a ferdy to finish.
If I knew that I would join so many other GB's I wouldn't have signed up for this.... sorry guys.
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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:38 AM
My Su-47 Berkut is complete!! I'll be shooting some pics tonight to post here!!!

It was a fun little build with no major issues on fit except for the underside of the wings just forward of the intakes - huge gap. I left it there beccause it almost looks like it belongs. Maybe next time I'll fill it. I'll post more information on the kit with the pictures!!!

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:48 AM
Sounds good, I-beam. Piccies? Big Smile [:D]
Cheers,
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 16, 2005 11:07 PM
Hey all, I'm still here just checking in. I got my wing(s) glued together on the Horten 229. I guess you call it wings there really is no fuselage, no tail either so I guess I get to skip some steps ... Confused [%-)]Whistling [:-^] Should be done quick now I hope. It'll be fun to paint.
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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Saturday, May 14, 2005 6:06 PM
Update from my personal "skunk works"

With any luck I should be able to rool out my Berkut by tomorrow night!!! I have the assembly complete and will shoot a coat of future tomorrow am then decal. Still am debating on just how much I should weather the bird, since I am finishing it in a psudo-operational scheme. For a 1/144th scale bird, i have invested a good deal of time, but so far it is worth the effort!

Update 16 May 05 - Landing gear is on, so she is sitting on her own now, just have to do some small touch up work and then seal it with future. Didnt get much done this weekend, to much other stuff to do (spring cleaning with the Misses) but I might get something done on it this week.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Monday, May 2, 2005 5:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by loftycomfort

John,
Well, I think the Rafale is only "somewhat" stealthy. It's not designed from the ground up to be radar invisible, but it does have some characteristics you'd find on a true stealth jet: the profile, the jagged edge on the LG doors etc. If the f-117 is 100% stealth, then I'd say the Rafale is 40%.
Terry


If I had a vote about letting you in, I'd have to say yes, based on the fact that I've entered this GB with the Su-47 Berkut Cool [8D] which is also only a "somewhat" stealthy aircraft!!!! Hope that you'll get in with us!!! Big Smile [:D]

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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