Regia Aeronautica Group Build

Matt, put me down as a possible with Italeri's new CR42.

Karl

I'm a possible too, I'll let you know!


and hi Karl!!

Hi Tom, fancy meeting you here!

Has Kremps turned up yet?

Karl

I'd be intrested I have an Re 2000 I've been wanting to build.

I love Italian, so put me down as a definite maybe. The time frame looks good. I'll have to muse over my stash & see what might work.

Regards, Rick

Karl - no she hasn't been by yet... this is a fresh group so I thought it best that she introduce HERSELF..

hey Rick! good to see you here too!

Glad to see there is some interest in this. I will add your names to the burgeoning list of participants and you can let me know whenever which kit you will be building. In addition, I have added a list of references that I found, including a set of links to kits for sale on squadron. BTW if I didn't make this clear earlier, a/c with different markings could be used from before the war, during, and after the 1943 armistice after which RA pilots and a/c were flown against the axis.

http://www.comandosupremo.com/RANA.html
a good reference for general WWII Italian history, with a great section on a/c.

http://64.224.13.60/arsenals/planes_it/macchi/macchi_us.htm
A great site about Macchi a/c in particular.

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/insignia/italy-1.htm
A site with several unit designations for RA groups.

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/racamo1940se_1.htm
A hyperscale link with RA camouflage desins.

http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/falco_bob.htm
A very detailed site about the RA involved with the Battle of Britain.

http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Reggiane.html
A site about Reggiane a/c.

http://disc.server.com/Indices/226314.html
An excellent site devoted to plastic models of the RA.

http://www.aviation-history.com/savoia-marchetti/sm79.html
A pretty detailed site about the Sparaviero.

http://www.ipmsitaly.com/gbindex.html
IPMS italy site.

And the squadron links.
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=HE08148 (bf 109)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=HE09546 (stuka)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=CF0462 ( A.M. sparaviero)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=CF0474 (CR 42)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=CF0498 (CR 42 seaplane)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=CF0499 (CR 42 biposti)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=EU8925 (edouard SM 79)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=HE09133 (hase Veltro)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=HE09504 (hase Folgore)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=TR02817 (trumpeter SM 79)

(this is just the 1/48 models, but there are a ton more in 1/72)

www.pacmodels.com
Pacific Coast Models seems to have a plethora of unusual RA models, including the Cant Z 1007bis Alcione night bomber that was reviewed in the May 05 print issue of FSM. At $190 I'm not expecting anyone to pick this one but it's a cool model to drool over.

thanks for the interest.

EDIT: without any real reason, I guess we'll start on 9/15/05 and go to 5/31/06. That gives us a few months to get our act together and nine months to complete it. If anyone wants to start sooner/later or extend the amount of time, I'm fine with that, I mainly picked two dates so I could list this in the GB guide.

I'm in... dunno what I'm gonna do yet, though...


Fade to Black...

The 9/15 start date should work out fine for me & the nine months should be adequate time for completion. As I recall, that.s about how long it took my wife to make our children.

Regards, Rick

Rick, if it's good enough for our wives then I guess it's good enough for us.

Here's a list of 1/72 a/c from Squadron.

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=ALV0126 (Avia LM-02 glider)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AM72005 (AML Fiat G50)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AM72021 (AML Fiat G50 bis)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AM72022 (G50 biposto bicomando)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AU2025 (Xotic SM 84 bomber)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AX04007 (airfix SM 79)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AZ0042 (Azur Nardi FM 305)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=CR0067 (Czech Master IMAM Ro 57 attact a/c)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=HE00662 (Hase Macchi 202 folgore co belligerent AF)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=HE51302 (Hase Folgore, different markings)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=IT1222 (Italieri Folgore)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=IT1227 (Italieri Veltro)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=LEK0043 (Legato Caprioni Colombo)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=LEK0049 (Legato Nardi FN 305)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=LEK0054 (Legato Cansa FC 20)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=LEK0055 (Legato Caprioni AP-1)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=LEK0056 (Legato SM 93 dive bomber, no regia aeronautica decals supplied with this kit.)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=PD093 (Planet Models Ba 88)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=PV72040 (Pavla RE2005 Sagittario)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=PV72053 (Pavla IMAM Ro 43 floatplane)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=SO72045 (Special Hobby IMAM RO 57 bomber)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=SO72079 (Special Hobby RE 2000)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=SO72081 (Special Hobby Aeromacchi C 200)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=SO72087 (Special Hobby Fiat G55)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=SU0010 (Supermodel Folgore)
http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=SU0013 (Supermodel Veltro)

Quite a selection.

Wow Matthew! You're really going all out on this one! Thanks for the links! I am still up in the air on which I will do. I did read a blurb on the CR.42 I believe used in the battle of britain so maybe that one. Evidently they took off and got in formation almost as if they were doing an airshow. The neared a British airfield and the AA crews were so confused by the brightly colored planes it took the a few minutes to open fire. The wing then turned back content they had even been over British soil and dropped all their bombs on fields.

It's all in this page, about 1/3 the way down...

http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/falco_bob.htm

The new Italeri release of the 1/48 CR 42 looks very nice in the box & is less expensive than the new Classic Air Frames kit. Probably an easier build as well. But, I think I'll do something in 1/72 just for a slight change of pace. Still mulling over the possibilities.

Regards, Rick

thanks for the info Rick ---I notcied the new Italeri kit today in the FSM issue this month... I'm not a real biplane person though so I'll have to see!

Tom, that's hilarious about the BOB Italian onslaught. That's something I knew little about until recently, and would be interested in researching it further for the purposes of this GB.

I Guess I did get a little carried away with the squadron links, but I was at work with a big downtime at night and was looking to be constructive. It beats watching Law and Order reruns on TNT.

Rick, did you use acrylics on your hasegawa Veltro? I used some testors flat acrylics on a BF 109 I did recently and they actually turned out very well, but the problem is that the color selection for this line is not good. I used MM enamels on the spit I finished in April, and I was disappointed at the way it turned out. I think I had to spray on too thickly to get the color density I was looking for and it ended up obscuring some of the panel lines. Anyhoo I was thinking of expanding my repertoire by trying something like gunze or tamiya. What do you all think?

Matthew, The Veltro was painted with Model Master enamels. It's a personal choice thing, but I've never cared for acrylics, except for brush painting small details. However, I recently purchased a few bottles of the new Aircraft Color acrylics from Vallejo. These have been getting good reviews, so I thought I'd experiment a bit with them. Haven't tried them as yet.

Regards, Rick

7K posts, huh? I think that deserves a pat on the back. I'm certainly impressed.

Thanks for the heads up on the Aircraft Color line. I'll give them a try.

Let me know how you like the Rick, I've been using them for about 6 months or more now and have steadily been increasing my supply of them. They are easy to brush on in my opinion and as long as you use progressive coats (don't try to cover in one or two passes with the air brush) give a VERY smooth finish! One thing I noticed is I think I am actually using less paint with these than the regular bottle and a pipette. Most of my bottles are still 1/2 to 3/4 full even after being used on multiple kits.

Do you guys who use acrylics often find that you need multiple coats? The only time I've used them I only used two coats and the coverage was good.

Matthew - most colors is an easy 3 maybe 4 coats coats with Color of Eagles acrylics (vallejo) some of the lighter colors have taken one or two extra... I just like the looks of them when sprayed on light like that, everything blends so well. With MM acrylics 2 is about average for me...

A guy at the LHS that uses them specifically showed me a SPAD he was doing with them and explained about the lighter coats and I was sold!

Matt I use predominantly Gunze acrylics as the colour range is excellent and they spray beautifully, leaving a stunning finish.

I used the Vallejo acrylics, but good as they are I just get on better with the Gunze product.

Tom Italeri's CR42 looks like a stunning little kit, it just seems odd that they chose to release a version in Luftwaffe service rather than Regia Aeronautica. Having said that, there is everything in the box to build the RA version except the decals.

[b]Rick[/b[ Specialhobby have released a whole load of obscure Italian subjects in 1/72 of late, including Italy's answer to the B17. Might be worth a look.

Karl

Karl - don't happen to know the designation of that plane do you? (Actually I think I saw it recently) that would definitely qualify as fringe.. (and no comments from YOU about lace, Mr. RJ-myplasticismoremanlythanyours-mod!)

Tom, I won't mention lace again. Unless you mention FRINGE

Regards, Rick

You mean the Piaggio P.108
http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/planes_it/heavy_bombers/heavy_us.htm

QUOTE: Originally posted by mkhoot You mean the Piaggio P.108 http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/planes_it/heavy_bombers/heavy_us.htm

Tom That would be the one.

Looks awful big for a scooter!

Special Hobby seem to have had a bit of a run on Italian subjects in 1/72 recently, even down to the teeny Nardi trainer.

Karl

I'm in with a Caproni Ca.100 by Choroszy Modelbud, 1/72th scale, resin.
Is it OK for you guys? This will be my first GB.

May I suggest a badge for this group?

QUOTE: Originally posted by ModelDay May I suggest a badge for this group?

Looks pretty good, but shouldn't BG be GB ?

Regards, Rick

Fixed !!!!
Thanks

Hey guys,

sorry I've been MIA for about a week but I just finished the move to New Jersey so it's been a little hectic around here. No internet access yet in my new apartment, so I have to go down to Starbucks and "hack" into the wifi access there. I am of course suckered into a four dollar cup of coffee while there.

Alexandre, I will add your name and build to the list in the first post. Also, thank you very much for whipping up a GB badge, I was mulling that over this week and trying to figure out how to make my photoshop stop fritzing out. Yours looks great to me.

Everyone, feel free to add this to your signature before completing the actual build. Perhaps it will drum up other interested customers.