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Southern Fried Group Build--All subjects, 1 JAN 06-1 JUN 06

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Southern Fried Group Build--All subjects, 1 JAN 06-1 JUN 06
Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:58 PM
As I sit here sipping my mint julep (actually, it's Super Chill soda, 50-50 mix of cola and fruit punch) and gaze out at the increasingly frigid landscape of Northwest Illinois, I have decided that the perfect antidote to the depths of winter will be a visit to a warmer clime. So I'm going to spend my evenings during the depths of winter down South, and I invite you to join me.

Southern Fried Group Build
Subjects: All
Periods: All
Proposed start date: 1 January 06
Proposed finish date: 1 June 06
Sole requirement: Your model must have a connection to the American South. For now I'm defining "The South" as the states of the Confederacy, but if anyone wants to build something from Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland or West Virginia, I have no objection.

As far as badges go, I can probably put together a generic badge in the next few days, but if you want a badge with your particular subject, go nuts!

Alright y'all, who's in on this one and what are y'all building?



Edit: 5 November

Here's the generic badge for the build.




Here's the lineup so far (updated 23 October):

cdclukey-- Lindberg Robert E. Lee steamboat
rebelreenactor-- Confederate figure dio or CSS Virginia
roadkill_275-- In, but still waiting for the subject
Chaparral 2F-- Jim Hall's Chaparral 2F race car in 1/24





Edit: 23 October
If you have any doubt in your mind about whether a subject falls under the "Southern connection" rule, read on. If not, don't bother.

To clarify, if your subject qualifies for any of the following, it can be in the build. If anybody comes up with any other connections to the South they feel are legitimate, let me know and I'll probably include them.

1. Served the Confederacy

2. Served a Southern state after the Civil War, such as a plane with ANG markings.

3. Is named after a Southern state or city (examples: USS Missouri, USS Galveston or NS Savannah)

4. Has some other Southern reference in its name (such as the B-17's "9 Yanks and a Rebel" and "Memphis Belle")

5. Is or was stationed/based in the South (such as a plane stationed at Barksdale AFB or MCAS Cherry Point or a Mississippi riverboat)

6. Was built or designed by a Southerner

7. Was driven, conned, flown, crewed or commanded by a Southerner

8. Was named after a Southerner (such as USS Patrick Henry or the M3 Lee tank)

I've used mostly military examples, but civilian stuff is great, too. For example, NASCAR subjects qualify and then some. For another example, if you build a Chevy Corvette, the real thing was made in Bowling Green, KY.

Please note that there is an exception to the "stationed in the South" angle: Union Civil War subjects that operated in the South are only eligible if they're in a diorama with something Southern. For example, an ironclad that was under Farragut at Mobile would be out, but USS Monitor would be kosher if she were in a dio of her famous battle with CSS Virginia.
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:37 PM
Oooo, I think I will have time to get in on this. I can probably paint some rebel soldiers and make a small dio or build my C.S.S. Virginia.

for badges, I was Thinking confederate flag but, that would't go over well with people who dont understand it.
John
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Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor

Oooo, I think I will have time to get in on this. I can probably paint some rebel soldiers and make a small dio or build my C.S.S. Virginia.

for badges, I was Thinking confederate flag but, that would't go over well with people who dont understand it.


Welcome aboard! I was wondering about the Confederate flag myself. I lean toward using it, but I'm sure we could come up with other symbols of the South, like Magnolias or such. I'll give it some thought.

For now I'm going to put you down for both the dio and the Virginia, please let me know when you decide which one you want to do.
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Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:53 PM
Oh, one more thing, reenactor...went to your profile page and saw the Pickett's Charge quote...I recently read the huge book that Ken Burns wrote as a compaion piece to his Civil War series, and loved every minute of it, but the part that really got to me was how the Confederates re-enacted Pickett's Charge at the 50th reunion on the Gettysburg battlefield, and the Union vets swarmed out onto the field to embrace them. That and Johnston dying from pneumonia because he wanted to pay final respects to Sherman.
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:56 PM
you mean this charge...


pretty touching.

I have heard that this is where civil war reenacting actually began, not sure but it could be.
John
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Posted by roadkill_275 on Friday, October 21, 2005 12:34 PM
If yall use the Confederate flag, count me in. I'm NOT ashamed of my heritage.
Kevin M. Bodkins "Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup" American By Birth, Southern By the Grace of God! www.milavia.com Christian Modelers For McCain
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Posted by cdclukey on Friday, October 21, 2005 7:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor

you mean this charge...


Yep, that's the one. I also enjoyed reading that Chamberlain made it to the 50th before he died.
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Posted by cdclukey on Friday, October 21, 2005 8:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by roadkill_275

If yall use the Confederate flag, count me in. I'm NOT ashamed of my heritage.


And I wouldn't expect you to be.

I've thought about this flag thing and I've come to a definite decision. Let me tell you where I'm coming from. I'm a born and bred Mainer from a line of Mainers that dates at least back to the days of the French and Indian War. I tell you that so you'll have context for this: I tried to convince my wife to name our second son Joshua Chamberlain Clukey.

If I wanted my son to be named after the man who led the 20th Maine on Little Round Top, and I can get past this Confederate Flag thing, then anybody should be able to.

We will use the Confederate Flag in the badge, and I'll put a note on my profile page about why anyone who has a burr under their saddle should get over it, per William T. Sherman, Joe Johnston and Robert E. Lee. If anyone hassles you, send 'em to me.

Now...what are you building?
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Posted by roadkill_275 on Saturday, October 22, 2005 7:11 AM
I'll have to get back to you on that. I'll have to go through my stash and see what I have. Would a plane in the markings of one of the Southern ANG units work?? If not I'll have to go to the LHS and pick something up, like that is a bad thing.

Didn't mean to upset anybody with my earlier post, but I'm just sick and tired of people slamming my heritage and a flag that the majority of my ancestors fought and died under.
Kevin M. Bodkins "Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup" American By Birth, Southern By the Grace of God! www.milavia.com Christian Modelers For McCain
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Posted by cdclukey on Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by roadkill_275

I'll have to get back to you on that. I'll have to go through my stash and see what I have. Would a plane in the markings of one of the Southern ANG units work?? If not I'll have to go to the LHS and pick something up, like that is a bad thing.


Yes, any reasonable Southern connection is inbounds, and that would certainly include ANG units from Southern states. If it served the Confederacy, served as Southern state after the Civil War, is named after a Southern State or city, is or was stationed in the South (such as a plane stationed at Barksdale AFB) or was built, designed, driven, conned, flown, commanded by or named after a Southerner, we'll take it. For example, my Robert E. Lee gets in two ways, because of her name and because she worked the southern end of the Mississippi. Another couple of examples that spring to mind from WWII are the battleship Missouri and the B-17 "9 Yanks and a Rebel."

QUOTE: Didn't mean to upset anybody with my earlier post, but I'm just sick and tired of people slamming my heritage and a flag that the majority of my ancestors fought and died under.


No offense taken. Not to get too political, but denigrating that flag is one of the ways many so-called "leaders" divert attention from their own atrocious performance. "Don't ask me why your kid's school can't teach him to read, look at what white guys did 140 years ago!" Considering the state of our inner cities today, such leaders shouldn't have time to care what the Klan is up to, much less a bunch of non-racists who simply want to acknowledge gallant men who felt they were defending the Constitution.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:25 PM
I have a Fisher Models 1/24 '67 Chaparral 2F built by Jim Hall. Hall was from Midland, TX and had his shop along with a small test track there. I was planning on starting on it around the first of the year. Rene'
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Posted by cdclukey on Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:40 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chaparral 2F

I have a Fisher Models 1/24 '67 Chaparral 2F built by Jim Hall. Hall was from Midland, TX and had his shop along with a small test track there. I was planning on starting on it around the first of the year. Rene'


Great, welcome aboard! I googled the Chap 2F and it is a beaut, your model will be a great addition to the build.
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:42 PM
on the subject of the flag. Many people have the flag confused for racism. Mainly because the think the confederecy stood for slavery and there is no denying that. But the flags for the soldiers and flag for the gov. are different.

Government flag- stood for slavery etc.



battle flag, used by troops in the field for recognition and organization.



I have no problem using the battle flag in my sig, I know what it stands for and while my family fought on the North, Im still proud of the heritidge the southerns have.
John
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Posted by cdclukey on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 8:50 PM


QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor

I have no problem using the battle flag in my sig, I know what it stands for and while my family fought on the North, Im still proud of the

heritidge the southerns have.


Rebel, using your flag pic, I've put together these two generic badges. If anybody has any constructive criticism, suggestions or alternate badges, sing out.





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Posted by rebelreenactor on Thursday, November 3, 2005 2:33 AM
those look great! I think I like the 2nd one a little bit better.
John
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Posted by cdclukey on Saturday, November 5, 2005 8:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rebelreenactor

those look great! I think I like the 2nd one a little bit better.


Thank you! I'll keep both of them in my photobucket account until the GB is over, but I'm going to use the second one for my own sig.
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Don't forget...
Posted by cdclukey on Saturday, November 5, 2005 9:02 PM
For those reading the thread who haven't decided whether to sign on yet, don't forget that Christmas is coming! If you don't have something in your stash, pick a Southern Fried subject and start hinting!
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Posted by cdclukey on Friday, November 18, 2005 4:24 PM

Should I do updates before the build gets started? Is that against protocol? Tongue [:P]

I'm going to have to rush to get all the other builds in front of the Lee done before te end of the year. I'm on the home stretch with a CF-18 for the Canadian build, and will try to do the Cold War build (USS Ticonderoga) and Russian build (Minsk) concurrently to save time. Parts control shouldn't be an issue given that the plastic is different colors, the scales are different (1:350 and 1:700 respectively) and the two ships are definitely a lot different!

Anybody else have anything at this point, such as progress on the builds in your "queue" before the Southern Fried subject, suggestions for the build, updates on your subject if you're one of our two guys who have yet to pick? Anybody asking for their build subject for Christmas?

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Posted by rebelreenactor on Friday, November 18, 2005 5:18 PM

I'll probably ask my build for christmas. I want to get one of those shenendoa miniatures, they look really nice.

What I have in que before this gb, ALOT!!!

Finish tasca luchs vignett - 75% the luchs is 90% complete, needs dry brushing.

Finish Stug III - 50% needs paint

Stug III dio 5% figs built

Opel blitz for super detail GB- havent started yet.

yep, I got alot of work to do!

John
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Posted by cdclukey on Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:54 PM
A lot? Well, now you know why I put on a June end date!
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Posted by rebelreenactor on Friday, December 16, 2005 12:30 AM
okBig Smile [:D]
John
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Posted by cdclukey on Friday, December 30, 2005 12:21 AM

OK, we're ready to start on Sunday! I am going over my Robert E. Lee parts now, and I'll be starting it Tuesday. Looks like my Grampy had already assembled the hull and installed the boiler and some of its associated piping.

This thing is HUGE, and it's going to be a really cool build.

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Posted by roadkill_275 on Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:44 PM
I've narrowed it down to a Delta Airline airliner. I'll have to see whats available when I get to HL this week.
Kevin M. Bodkins "Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup" American By Birth, Southern By the Grace of God! www.milavia.com Christian Modelers For McCain
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Posted by cdclukey on Friday, January 6, 2006 8:58 PM

 roadkill_275 wrote:
I've narrowed it down to a Delta Airline airliner. I'll have to see whats available when I get to HL this week.

 

Sounds sweet! I was really impressed with the Delta airliner in the latest issues of FSM, and I'm sure yours will be just as good. The Delta schemes are always nice, and the ones they have these days are just stunning.

As far as the Robert E. Lee goes, there's one part missing that I can scratchbuild a replacement for. I'm working on boiler oiler guards and engine room catwalks tonight, and I need to go find a base soon. Wal-Mart didn't have anything even close to big enough, the finished model will be 2 feet long.

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Posted by rebelreenactor on Saturday, January 7, 2006 10:15 PM
Cant go wrong with a delta plane, my uncle flys a 737 for them.
John
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Posted by cdclukey on Monday, January 16, 2006 8:50 AM
Has anyone else been able to start? I haven't done much, my folks are up from North Carolina for a visit and I had to frontload some work so I wouldn't be glued to the computer while they're here. So, i had a non-plastic weekend and I'll have a non-plastic week until Thursday.
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Posted by cdclukey on Sunday, April 9, 2006 1:09 AM

Hmmm...is this thing on? Nobody, including me, has posted since January.

After a diversion or two, the Lee is on track. How's everybody else doing?

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