Production Bikes GB 06 (March 01, 2006 - March 01, 2007)

If only I had the time, patience, money......oh and the skill

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Hello all

 I have been off building for past 6 weeks because of exams, but have the RC750 Honda nearly finished and am doing a couple of the 1980's GP bikes using a Dexter and Ragged Edge sheets, I am also tired of RCV's but still buy them by the ton since I love models

I am keen on a new build but like the others I really like to learn how some of you get your builds right it is what I find makes the GB interesting ie learning new tricks

Hopefully I can post some progress in the next couple of weeks

Andrew

I'm tired of the RCV:s as well and don't think they are up close on my list of kits to do. Probably wll get my hands on a few M1:s as I haven't done a single one yet.

Don't know about the smileys Shayne, they seem to have vanished.

/Joel

wolfpac wrote:

Perhaps a clean start with the release of the 06 spec RC 211V?  I'm sure everyone would be in with the front fork conversion kit as well.

Would be keen for that, But getting sick of the RCV , even though would get it as it is a new??? RCV.Another

vote would be for the YZR  as you could do a few teams version of it. Have had one sitting here just begging to be done .

PS where are those smileys gone ? 

Shayne 

joelrydh wrote:

I don't agree regarding the after market stuff as all look at a bike differently and will have to use different solutions to get there but the idea of a one bike GB is VERY interesting, here's where you can really learn something. Problem will be to decide what to build.... /Joel

Perhaps a clean start with the release of the 06 spec RC 211V?  I'm sure everyone would be in with the front fork conversion kit as well. 

I don't agree regarding the after market stuff as all look at a bike differently and will have to use different solutions to get there but the idea of a one bike GB is VERY interesting, here's where you can really learn something. Problem will be to decide what to build....

/Joel

joelrydh wrote:

I think that badge looks great and put my vote for that one even if there is no other combatants. Regarding the Group Builds I think one has to think about what they want to accomplish with a GB. I want something more than just showing images. I want to evolve and learn tricks from you guys. No problem with slow builders as I am one myself, but to get interested in another GB I think I want people to share more regarding their techniques and I'd rather see more narrow builds than the wider scopes that are getting more and more common. /Joel

I couldn't agree more.  I've packed everything away and have taken an extended brake from building.  It feels like I hit a rut where my builds were not getting any better.  I could never get the shine on the fairings that many of you produce, as well as getting clean paint to lay down with the smaller parts.  I could never figure out if it was the paint choice, the equipment used or a bad technique (sp?).  

What I think would be great to see is a one bike build.  Everyone buys and constructs the same exact bike, and compare details on how they build it.  Have all of the accesories the same brand and scale (such as CF poto etch etc).  I'm sure there would be at least one online vendor who would give a discount if everyone bought all the kits and accesories from them.  I think maybe this way the more experienced builders can help out the not so experienced.

Just my couple o pennies :)

I think that badge looks great and put my vote for that one even if there is no other combatants.

Regarding the Group Builds I think one has to think about what they want to accomplish with a GB. I want something more than just showing images. I want to evolve and learn tricks from you guys. No problem with slow builders as I am one myself, but to get interested in another GB I think I want people to share more regarding their techniques and I'd rather see more narrow builds than the wider scopes that are getting more and more common.

/Joel

Yea, this GB kinda went downhill pretty quick.  I will take half of the blame for that.  My new engineering job is half killing me with all those reference books.  To repent, I just made the badge for the GB.  Maybe more people will finally start up their builds with this incentive eh? 

Was trying to get the 06 to look like wheels... came out looking halfassed instead.

joelrydh wrote:

Can we agree on a badge for this one or has everybody left. Sure looks like it when you look at the comments for the past month... /Joel

Was thinking of starting a new group build , which would be a never ending one as have quite a few racing bike's and conversions I would like to do and finding hard to keep track of the 2 group builds here.

So would be basically a motorbike group build with anyone can join at any time .(though not those damn choppers can't stand them .(was going to stick a smiley here but they have dissappered ??????)

Will put a post on moto gp build and if anyone still hanging around  will start it up?????

Shayne 

Can we agree on a badge for this one or has everybody left. Sure looks like it when you look at the comments for the past month...

/Joel

Hi guys! Finished my work in this GB today! I had some REALLY big troubles attaching the lower cowls to the top but I sorted it out eventially. It doesn't look 100% though...

Here are some shots although they are a tad to light and some of them a bit out of focus. I'll post new ones soon, I've got plans to take this mother to my friends' studio for some quality pictures.

Hope you all like it!

/Joel

Ok, so it's time to start the assembly and get a move on with this build. Today I'll give you pics of the finished engine and swing arm assembly and tomorrow I'll hopefully post picture of the naked bike fully assembled.

What's new on the engine? I've added throttle cables. These would go into a box underneith the tank on the real bike but that won't fit so I've stuck them away at the clutch cover. On the left side you can spot my most expensive piece of plastic. I had to buy a new mold tree to get the sprocket cover that I've misplaced...10 USD plus shipping... Lucky I needed some primer... I sprayed it Alclad II Jet Exhaust, covered it partly with some SMS CF and put some Model Factory Hiro rivets where there was originaly molded in ones.

Looking through a R1 service manual I found loads of extras that I would have made if I had the manual when I began the build. Now I'll stick to an extra radiator hose on the left side and to rebuild the clutch (not visible here).

I finally assembled the rear swing arm and I think it turned out just dandy! Caliper got some rivets installed on the top side and I then glued the brake disc and caliper in place on the rimb using super glue. To get the right fit with the tire I had to make a spacer out of styrene rod. Looking at the right side you can see that I've drilled the screw head down into the rimb and I will later cover it with a plastic bolt.

The fender is painted Metallic Grey (same as the tank) and then I added some CF in the middle. I pinned it down with some rivets.
Brake line is .6 mm fishing line painted gun metal.
Chain guard got some phillips head bolts as fastners.

Hope you all like it.
/Joel

Hi Joel

Thanks for compliments of course I never post pictures of all the lousy paint jobs! And there are a few to be sure!!!

Black is such a complimentary colour since it reflects the light so nicely

Such a lovely shine on those cowls!!! I love it. Looks really great (as always!)

/Joel

Hi Shayne

The problem I had with the decals is they simply would not stick, had little if any adhesive.    The first set came of in the washing process while I was preparing parts for clear coat.    The next set “blew” of the cowlings when I tried the clear coat         so finally with the advice from Decalman I used another sheet of decals and put a little diluted white glue under each decal and that did the trick,        went through five sets of decals though. Supplier Ragged Edge was fantastic supplying spare sheets and helping me solve the problem, I think I just had some bad luck with the sheets, since other have had no problems 

I am satisfied with the end result, just took a while to get there though

Completed Senna Ducati 916. Had some problems with decals but with some assistance from Decalman and some white glue finally got everything finished

Below pictures of the completed bike

Andrew

More updates. I'm finally done painting the exhaust system. Or atleast very close to it. I have a few scratches near the right muffler to fix and some joints to paint where the front pipes meats the EXUP. I will also add some washers to the muffler brackets.
I finally fell for some Termignoni decals from the Dexter Models sheet wich seem to have a very high quality.

/Joel

Great! I thought the GB was dead... But the GB is ALIVE!!!

/Joel

Hi Guys, you are not alone. I have had some troubles with the Ducati 916 '98 Senna decals and have finally gots them to stick on the parts so hopefully I will seal them with a clear coat this week-end then I will post pictures of the finished bike.

The RC 750 Honda is stuck I had some problems with the Gold pinstrips on the body parts so have ordered some new declas from HLJ, they are also on the way so should have pictures posted soon

Andrew

Thanks Shayne! I think it's only me and you left here...

/Joel

I'll keep on going. Last chance for the next couple of weeks to get something done here.

Glued the rear damper into the swing arm and test fitted the chain and chain guard. Chain isn't detailed yet, just painted Pale gold and XF-56 Metallic grey. Chain guard will get some washers added.

I also put the front fork together with the front wheel. You can see the small scratch built mountings for the fender. Fork legs are painted, yes Alclad II Pale gold, and the sliding parts are from a Museum Collection kit that I wasted the other year. They are made of turned brass. Lower ends of the forks are to be detailed further and Brembo markings on the calipers will be painted black.

Hope you like it.
/Joel

Fitted the scratch built pipes into the EXUP today. The styrene rods fit beautifulli in the mufflers but as expected it was harder to get them into the EXUP. I heated and bent the pipes and then glued them in place with super glue. After curing I put on some putty whilst still test fitted on the bike. Hopefully I'll get a hard mount as it will have to manage the heavy load. My next fear is that it will be hard to fit the system after painting as it now is in one piece...will see about that one. Here's two pics of the EXUP connection.

/Joel

On to the exhaust system...  This is a task I've pushed in front of me during the whole build as it will be tricky to fit the scratch built pipes into the EXUP with the right angle. Photo below shows where I started out. I've been struggling to get the frontmost one in place and did so until I cut too much plastic away and the pipe went too short :banghead:. Well, well, glued a small piece at the end and hopefully it will do fine tomorrow. The other pipe will be trickier as it has a more complex way to the EXUP. It is hard to meassure the angle and hold that one in my head while holding the plastic rod over the candle. I've tried a few ways to sort it and think I'm on my way. Hardest part will probably be to clean up the area around the EXUP and to fit the hole system at ones when done.

/Joel

shayne wright wrote:

What colour is the seat? looks pink to me ,but seeing as it's a custom bike you are doing it can be what ever colour and shade that you what,matchs in good with the red body colour Shayne

Well, I wouldn't say pink Shayne but I aree upon it beeing on the light side. I've decided to make it a more darker brown color as most of the bike has really deep colors.

/joel