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A-10 Group build
Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:28 PM

Welcome to the 2007 A-10 group build 

       As you may have read over on the aircraft forums, I have been trying to set up

    

       1. The first rule is a gimme. It has to be an A-10.  It can be any scale, any variant:A-10 at any stage in its career, A-10B/NAW, or the A-10C. Anybody interested in the A-10C, Dice and 72Cuda will be happy to provide details to hlp you build one.

       2.You are free to build the A-10 anyway you want, whether OOB or Use of Aftermarket, or scratchbuilt details.  The important thing we are building an A-10, however fancy or simple you want it to be.

       3.This can be part of another group build, if that build allows it.

       4.What ifs will be limited to markings and paint schemes.  There are some pretty nifty experimental schemes that the A-10 has used in the past (ie the peanut or the dolphin schemes), and you are welcome to use them if the had gone into operational service. 

        5.Most importantly: HAVE FUN!Smile [:)]

      The start date for this group build is February 9, 2007

        The finish date is August 31, 2007.

         72Cuda has graciously volunteered to be the A-10 advisor for this build.  If you have any questions, feel free to post, and he will help you the best he can.

        Anybody interested please sign up below:  Just tell what you are building.

Thanks,

~the Reluctant Wanderer

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Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:31 PM

I am Anthony, the Reluctant Wanderer,

                  I am building a 1/48 R-M A-10A, updated to current A-10 Standards. I will be using several A-m parts.  Marking TBA, depends if the set becomes available the I want.

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Posted by bofuf on Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:40 PM

Hi, I am Chris.

My son and I will each be building a Hasegawa 1:72 A-10A Thunderbolt II. Strictly OOTB because I and my son are noob's.

Let the fun begin... on February 9th of course!! Big Smile [:D]

BTW-What happened to rule #5? Is that the secret rule??Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Game On!!!

Chris(and Nick) 

 

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but I can lift heavy things! 

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Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:58 PM

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Chris, glad to have you aboard.

 bofuf wrote:

BTW-What happened to rule #5? Is that the secret rule??Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] 

Sign - Oops [#oops] Blush [:I],that is what you call a typo.

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Posted by chasd25 on Sunday, January 28, 2007 12:32 AM

I'm in. I'll be building the monogram A-10!

Charlie

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Posted by Dice on Sunday, January 28, 2007 10:16 AM
I'll be keeping an eye on this one in case I can provide any assistance.
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Posted by cwalker3 on Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:32 PM
I'm in. I just got the R/M A-10 and am ready to roll. It'll be an OOB build as it's my first aircraft. Besides, a camo paint scheme and scribing panel lines should be enough to keep me busy!

Cary

 


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Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:49 PM

Welcome Everybody!

            Good to see you, Charlie and Cwalker.  I look forward to seeing your builds.

           Dice, thanks.  This make two advisors, both of whom have years experience with the A-10, and are quite familiar with it.  Anybody has any questions, feel free to ask.

           There were a couple of other guys who were interested in thi build.  Once we have them set uu, we will be ready to roll.

Thanks Everybody,

R-W

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Posted by BlackRider on Monday, January 29, 2007 8:09 PM

Hi all!

I'm going to be building the R/M A-10.  I've got both the model and paint on order and it should be arriving this week.  I'm very much a newbie so I'll be building oob.  Should be interesting to see how much paint and glue I get everywhere.  Smile [:)]

 Ken

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Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:11 AM

Welcome BlackRider!

            I think that you will do better than you think.  I look forward to seeing your work.

Thanks,

R-W

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Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:37 AM

Hey dice,

I have a question you.  What is the difference in the shape of the decelerons when they are deployed, vs when the are retracted? 

Thanks,

The reluctant Wanderer

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Posted by Dice on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:01 PM

RW, not sure just what you're asking but here's a couple pics that may help. The first one is the brake open (tilted slightly up) and the second one with them closed.

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Thursday, February 1, 2007 11:15 AM

Hey guys!

I'd like to get in on this too.  I've got a R-M 1:48th A-10A ready to go and will be ordering the new Hobby Boss 1:48th scale kit as well.  I'm debating on how to mark the Revellogram kit.  I'll probably do it in ODS Lizard markings and the Hobby Boss kit in current markings from the PA ANG (Since I'm a PA Guard guy...)

Not sure about weapons loadouts, but we'll see....

Jon
 

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Posted by Sanman on Thursday, February 1, 2007 11:25 PM

Hi Im Tom

Like to try my hand at this one.

I'LL be building Revells scale 1:48  A-10

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Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Friday, February 2, 2007 8:28 PM

welcome Tom and Cobra historian,

  Glad to have you aboard.  We are getting Just one more week, guys, and the build begins!

   Does anybody have ideas for a group build badge for this build?

Thanks

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Posted by chasd25 on Friday, February 2, 2007 8:38 PM
 reluctant_wanderer wrote:

   Does anybody have ideas for a group build badge for this build?

Thanks

 

Here's a few ideas!

 

 

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Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 12:03 AM
 chasd25 wrote:

 

I like this one.

I got my model today.  But I have been considering doing an experimental scheme that was tested in my home state of Alaska, a really cool D. grey and white scheme, in case I am not able to get an update set and teh decal set for the A-10.

Thanks Dice for the response.  You answered my question perfectly.  Basically it was, "Do the Flaperons change shape when they are depolyed?"  And you answered that.

When did the AF change the A-10 scheme from European-1 to the current Grey schemes?

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Posted by Dice on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 8:50 AM
 reluctant_wanderer wrote:
 chasd25 wrote:

 

Thanks Dice for the response.  You answered my question perfectly.  Basically it was, "Do the Flaperons change shape when they are depolyed?"  And you answered that.

When did the AF change the A-10 scheme from European-1 to the current Grey schemes?

 

Good wasn't sure. They started in 1992 and the last green jet was painted in 1998 (Osan). You see A-10s are on a 6 year paint cycle (down to bare metal) with a scuff sand paint (ruff it up and put a coat over the old paint) at the 3 year mark so, it took almost 6 years to get them all.

Here's a couple images that might work.....

 

 

 

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Posted by 72cuda on Thursday, February 8, 2007 1:30 PM

Hey Dice;

I figured you'd be sniffing around on this thread too.

Hey Guy's; 

DICE is the one to go to for the new A-10C's he's seen them in person and most likely knows the A-10's in & out because he worked on them during DEPOT Level Maintenance, and most likely worked on the upgraded "C's" too. I, myself was deployed with them so I could only give you the basic configurations during OEF & OIF(the first 6 months only) and anything DICE forgot the add.

Was that a good Intro for you DICE?

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Posted by Dice on Friday, February 9, 2007 11:48 AM
Thnaks Kuda, that was a nice intro with some very kind words. Blush [:I] 
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Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Friday, February 9, 2007 3:37 PM

Hey Guys,

      First official day of the build!Big Smile [:D] Big Smile [:D] Big Smile [:D] So far, we have 7 modelers building the A-10:

      Chris (Bofuf) and son building a 1/72 Hasegawa A-10

      Charlie (Chasd25) building the 1/48 R-M A-10

      Cwalker3 building the 1/48 R-M A-10

      Ken (Blackrider) building the R-M A-10

      Jon (CobraHistorian) building the 1/48 R-M A-10 and the 1/48 Hobbyboss A-10

      Tom (SanMan) building the 1/48 R-M A-10

      and me, Anthony (Reluctant Wanderer), building the 1/48 R-M

We are honored to have Dice and 72Cuda as advisors. While they won't be building models, they are most welcome here, and they have graciously agreed to provide advice an information on the A-10, and building her.  Dice has been introduced by Cuda.  Thanks Cuda.  Cuda himself is a former A-10 mechanic for the KC Hawgs, based out of Whiteman.  I know from what I read that the Hawgs are one of the most publicized reserve A-10 units, and it is an honor to have one of their former members here.

     As to a GB badge, we have four choices provided by Dice and Charlie.  Thanks Guys.  I loved all the pics.  Let's vote on the one that we want.  You guys can E-mail me your votes(please include the picture), and I will post the winning pic. Cuda and Dice, you may also vote, and display this badge.  Since you are actively a part of this, I think that it is only fair, if you want.

     Other than that, this GB of the greatest ground attack airplane is officially under way.  Gentleman, start you modeling!....

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Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Friday, February 9, 2007 4:02 PM

 Dice wrote:

 They started in 1992 and the last green jet was painted in 1998 (Osan). You see A-10s are on a 6 year paint cycle (down to bare metal) with a scuff sand paint (ruff it up and put a coat over the old paint) at the 3 year mark so, it took almost 6 years to get them all.

Thanks Dice.  I know that the LASTE mods were put in about this time, but were there any grey jets without the LASTE mods, or were they installed, and the plane repainted? 

Also, thanks for the images.

~R.W

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Posted by chasd25 on Friday, February 9, 2007 4:21 PM

Good wasn't sure. They started in 1992 and the last green jet was painted in 1998 (Osan). You see A-10s are on a 6 year paint cycle (down to bare metal) with a scuff sand paint (ruff it up and put a coat over the old paint) at the 3 year mark so, it took almost 6 years to get them all.

I'm curious as to what different overall grey schemes are being used.  Some appear overall light grey, others are the two tone grey scheme, anyone know the details?

 Just got my engine, and speed brake correction set today!

 Charlie

 

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Posted by Dice on Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:06 AM

RW and chasd25, I believe both your questions fit together in a way. Chasd25, all of today's A-10s have the same two-tone gray scheme even if it may be hard to see. Like I told RW in my response about when the A-10s went to the gray scheme, an A-10 only gets painted with a new paint job every 6 years (with a three year scuff-sand) so the two colors can fade making it hard to see the two tones. Also because the two colors are so close together to begin with a few years of sun, sand, and grease can hide the discrimination lines. Also different "lots" of paint can vary the amount of color difference in the two colors. I can say for sure (because they paint them in the building next to where I work) that all A-10s today are painted in the two tone gray.

This may be something you guys may want to remember when building your models, you can make them look older (or more combat proven if you care to think of it that way) by "fading" the paint on your models.

RW, the LASTE mod was a depot mod and I believe they did get painted after the mod was installed. LASTE started in 1989 and by the time they rolled through the mod line they were more than likely gray already. I can't be 100% sure there wasn't one or two that slipped through the cracks but, I have never seen a gray A-10 without LASTE...with one possible exception....make sure (this is for you also chasd25) that you are not looking at a picture of an early A-10 because they were first delivered to the AF in a gray scheme. In fact the A-10 carried 3 or 4 different gray schemes through the mid-70s to late-80s before moving to the Euro-greens and then to today's two tone gray .

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Posted by chasd25 on Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:24 AM

Thanks Dice! Now, maybe you can help me here. The bird below is one of the pics I was referring to.

Is this one of the older overall grey schemes before Euro 1, or a very faded 2-tone?

 

Charlie

 

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Posted by Dice on Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:43 AM

chasd25, that is a very faded two-tone paint job, you can just see the lighter tone under the reverse-scoops on the nose.  

Here's a shot of the same unit from a different angle....

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Posted by reluctant_wanderer on Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:36 PM

To everybody,

         At the request of one of the members of the build, everybody can vote on two of your favorite pictures from the above list.  Just send me a message, or you can e-mail me directly at atlee-2000@gci.net   

Thanks Dice,

          I forgot about the Grey tones for the first A-10s.  I know that they were very similiar to the current paint scheme, but the A-10 has had so many cool paint schemes over its career.

ChasD25,

          to prevent confusion, when we talk about European I (also called lizard) paint scheme, that is the green paint scheme that was the standard on the A-10 till the Air Force switched to the grey scheme(I don't know what it is officially called) in 1992.

          Thank Everybody.

~R.W.

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Posted by Sanman on Saturday, February 10, 2007 7:24 PM

I'LL GIVE MY VOTE TO CHasd25s FAIRCHILD REPUBLIC A-10 WARTHOG.

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Posted by CuriousG on Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:43 PM
I'd love to get on board. New to this, and I've only built a few armor pieces so far, but about 1/3 of my mini-stash is aircraft and I need a reason to tackle one of my wingy-thingies. I already have the R/M 1:48 A-10 on my shelf.  As my first aircraft in a loooong time, I will do it basically OOB, just adding the Verlinden accessory kit I have. Thinking to keep it simple and do the supplied "Let's Roll" version, 345th TFS, Maj Jill Long pilot. Becasue if there is anything sexier than a woman with a gun, it would have to be a woman with a 7-barrel 30mm cannon bustin' tanks! Wink [;)]

George Ireland

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Posted by chasd25 on Monday, February 12, 2007 10:46 AM

Thanks for the pic dice, much easier to see the 2 tone grey paint scheme in that pic.

Well....I broke out the kit over the weekend, and start trimming and doing some basic assembly. Nothing much though.

I still haven't decided on a paint scheme yet, need to decide on that pretty quick!

Charlie 

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