bondoman wrote:

I'm looking forward to 2008's, I'll be building a diorama of the Hickham Tower.

Now this I gotta see! I'm really looking forward to the 2008GB now.

nice work.  she looks very good.

joe 

Here is my entry for the 2007 Pearl Harbor GB.

B-12 of the 86th Observation Squadron, based at Bellows Field on December 7, 1941. These were actually operating out of Wheeler Field, but there is at least one report of a B-12  at Bellows on that day. Bellows was also the crash landing location of one of the B-17s that arrived from the Mainland, and the field where two P-40s were destroyed, and the pilots killed, attempting to take off.

The Williams Bros. kit in 1/72. She is serving as a target tug in her last days, having been replaced by the B-18 in Hawaii.

It was an honor to me to be a part of the GB. I'm looking forward to 2008's, I'll be building a diorama of the Hickham Tower.

Thank you, Joe.

by the deadline or not it is a very nice build.  very nice.

joe 

Its finished!     sorry took long since i had to put the computer to hosptial for new drive to be installed (dvd writer)  also had to move pictures from photobucket to new folders since im still new to photobucket.  so here is my finished pictures   enjoy  and feel free for feedback/comments

Joe,   Im glad to join this group build even tho i didnt meet the deadline. 

looks very sharp joe.  very sharp.

joe 

oops   hit post by accident

again will post the final pictures soon  

feel free for any comment or feedback

Hey all

about time!!  heres my pictures of IJN Akaji  but no planes yet  still working on it  almost done cuz 1/700 scale planes are very difficult to paint.  will post the final picutures soon.  sorry took abt two months to compete it.

hey gangs

sorry for delaying too long   im almost finish with my akaji carrier.  Ill post up the pictures soon as i can okay??  boy doing the flight deck is the most challange for me since there is no details for it so have to paint it out like i mention it last month.  so bear with me  thanks

gtz

i believe there that the red and white stripes on the rudder was removed later in the war but mostly was still there in the early 40s, maybe very late 30s too, (no idea if any of it was on at Pearl Harbor but it had it on the SBDs and TDBs at battle of coral sea i think)  also it do concered as prewar color   such as yellow wings aircrafts. if im wrong   my bad since im too exhausted right now smiles.

Havent start on my carrier yet   too many stuffs to do  prolly wont be done after new year.  but will try my best to complete it.  

i am not aware of the number for miss kay.  however the numbers were being changed from on tail black to inline (large fuse) white.  this was in transition at the point of the attack.  only one group (44th i believe) had made the change.  the red and white stripes on the tail had also gone away although some of the bombers still had them. 

joe 

I do not know the number for Miss Kay. Simply could not find any references so I did not put any markings there. If such information comes up, I will definetely place it on this aircraft.

On the other hand I thought that large numbers on both sides of the fuselage were removed sometimes before the war. Also when you look into the picutre of Gabby sitting on this aircraft's wing it does not look as any number is placed there

 The number should be visible around his foot area but there is no sign of any ... I think.

I was not sure about the rudder paint, should be there red/white stripes or not? I left it as it is due to other reference I found here:

Here's a pic of the big white numbers, on a P-40 destroyed at Bellows field.

Also, a reminder for this great link:

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/HI/Airfields_HI_Oahu_S.htm

No sweat! I think the only reason i know some of the WW2 history i do has to do with my Dad and my Uncle (his brother)sitting in his study discussing tactics, facts, showing off stuff with the occasional arguement (which is entertaining enough when they start talking about "each others mother") when i was a kid.

Flyboys is really a great read, i think. I do recommend it for the inquiring mind. A word of caution though- it's not for the feint of heart as far as books go. It does also deal with alot of the brutality in gruesome (and repititious detail). But i just finished it a few nights ago, and I have a new found respect for the Imperial Japanese as well as those from the Greatest Generation!

Outstanding on the P40 greg!  and doesnt it comes in big white number on the fuselage?  or it depend on which airfield they are stationed at?  

thank gangs for clearing it up.  I have no knowledge or familiar of mililarty quotes since i always wanted to join the navy since the movie Tora Tora Tora insired (sp) me when i was little boy, but unforturely i cant since Im deaf. At least i can build model and reading all of history on world war 2.  

I have the book fly boys and havent read it yet   now make me curious abt it and i should rent "from here to eternity"   makes me more curious. 

I did visit Pearl Harbor back in summer of 01 with my bro.  always thought it was a big place but didnt realized how small the harbor was and it was very unbelieveable.  Also wish i can visit the ford island but someone told me it was off the limit to visitors. I dont know why. since I want to see the damages on the ground from the bombs that japanese dropped and some bullet holes on the building.  argh.  also see the other sunken ship (Utah) on other side of the ford island. 

again thank gangs.   

The enlistment lines in the morning of December 8, 1941 would /should have made Hitler realize all was lost. American isolationism was over.

My favorite movie about Pearl Harbor, based on one of my all time favorite books, which was much better than the flick, is "From Here to Eternity". Esp. the last 15 minutes. It's really important to realize that we fought back with Lewis guns, pie plate helmets, Springfield 30.06 bolt actions and ... P-36's, B-18's, Vindicators and Martin B-12s.

I look forward to a B-18 model.

greg it looks good. 

let me say this about yamamoto and his statement.  as has been said he was concerned that a japanese/us war would only finish in favor of japan if the us was quickly destroyed.  he felt (knew) that once the industry of the us was moving japan could not hope to win.  he also knew that the population of the us would fight japan to the end.  his comment was definite in that the japanese would have to dictate the peace terms from the steps of the white house.  remember he said the japanese navy would run wild for six months then he could not guarentee anything.

joe 

... and an update on my P-40B

DesertRat wrote:

silentmodeler wrote:    bondoman mention: I'm afraid we've woken a sleeping giant. -Admiral Yamamoto im wondering what does he (Yamaoto) mean by awaken the sleeping giant?  Im not very good with qoutes does he mean the american carriers or the mililatry power?  I always thought it mean by the atomic bomb.  let me know thanks smiles. It's a concern about military power. The island country of Japan is volcanic, so therefore they have very limited resources. It was one of the reason Imperial Japan seized control of China and the South Pacific- natural resources. We had all that here, and even during the early 20th century, were pretty industrialized. My thinking (and this is more my viewpoint) is that by attacking Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto had given Americans the Battle Cry to mobilize the military personnel and resources to a point that would overwhelm Japan. By dragging us into a war, they were correctly concerned that Americans would pose a threat.    Japan (and most of Americans for that matter) were never aware of the Atomic Bomb until Hirosima. So Yamamoto had no way of knowing.    If you fancy a bit of readin, i HIGHLY recommend reading Flyboys by James Bradley. I thought it didn't focus on Naval Aviation as much as i would like, but Mr. Bradley goes pretty in depth with the Japanese mentality and state of mind. Gives you a good idea about the intentions and interests of Imperial Japan as well.    Hope i was able to help you some here. If i made no sense whatsoever, pardon me. It's 1:40 in the AM and i am not quite at 100%

Adding one small point...Admiral Yamamoto had visited the States and had seen first hand our industrial might. INstead of relying on their divine power as a country, which many Japanese felt, he knew we could produce more ships, tanks, airplanes, etc. in a day than the Japanese could destroy and would win in a long, drawn out War. 

silentmodeler wrote:

bondoman mention: I'm afraid we've woken a sleeping giant. -Admiral Yamamoto im wondering what does he (Yamaoto) mean by awaken the sleeping giant?  Im not very good with qoutes does he mean the american carriers or the mililatry power?  I always thought it mean by the atomic bomb.  let me know thanks smiles.

It's a concern about military power. The island country of Japan is volcanic, so therefore they have very limited resources. It was one of the reason Imperial Japan seized control of China and the South Pacific- natural resources. We had all that here, and even during the early 20th century, were pretty industrialized. My thinking (and this is more my viewpoint) is that by attacking Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto had given Americans the Battle Cry to mobilize the military personnel and resources to a point that would overwhelm Japan. By dragging us into a war, they were correctly concerned that Americans would pose a threat.

   Japan (and most of Americans for that matter) were never aware of the Atomic Bomb until Hirosima. So Yamamoto had no way of knowing.

   If you fancy a bit of readin, i HIGHLY recommend reading Flyboys by James Bradley. I thought it didn't focus on Naval Aviation as much as i would like, but Mr. Bradley goes pretty in depth with the Japanese mentality and state of mind. Gives you a good idea about the intentions and interests of Imperial Japan as well.

   Hope i was able to help you some here. If i made no sense whatsoever, pardon me. It's 1:40 in the AM and i am not quite at 100%

greg and bondoman   superb!!!  what kind of green did you use?  olive drab from model master?  love those color. 

update on my akagi    finally airbrush the deck to white   will be using mask tape to create a lines then will paint it to wood color.  so cross finger.  hopefully i can be done with it before i visit to illinois for xmas. 

bondoman mention:

I'm afraid we've woken a sleeping giant.

-Admiral Yamamoto

im wondering what does he (Yamaoto) mean by awaken the sleeping giant?  Im not very good with qoutes does he mean the american carriers or the mililatry power?  I always thought it mean by the atomic bomb.  let me know thanks smiles.

Bondoman: it is really nice build. Take your time finishing this one.

I tried to get mine done for Dec 7th but ... it ends up with a bit incorrect brake lines so, do not rush with yours .... The most important is to finish it well 

Joe: thanks  

greg and bondoman they both look awesome. 

joe 

This is pretty rough and has a ways to go. B-12 attached to the 86th observation group, stationed at Wheeler field. Located at Bellows Field on Sunday morning.

Williams Bros. 1/72 kit. A tribute to the state of technology our armed forces fought from.

I'm afraid we've woken a sleeping giant.

-Admiral Yamamoto

OK, I am back !

Here is a little update on my P-40B

its not finished but pretty close. I hope within next few days it will be done. 

Don't blame you for being frustrated. I tell ya, that is a new one for me since i've never seen any problem like that before! The only problems i had had before are sometimes i'll get the "this page cannot be displayed" prompt in times past, but that is just temporary. I'm kinda wondering if the Forum files might have been corrupted or compromised somehow......

   I do hope that they will fix it, and it wont come down to you having to leave.

over last few days I am trying to log in and have this kind of problem:

Server Error in '/Customer' Application.

Customer (u: my email address) Guid was blank

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.Exception: Customer (u: email) Guid was blank

Source Error:

Stack Trace:

[Exception: Customer (u: email ) Guid was blank]

   Kalmbach.ECare.Utilities.GetGatewayLoginUrl(String username, String pubCode, String returnUrl) +484

   Kalmbach.ECare.Utilities.GetBackToWebsiteUrl(String pubCode, String returnUrl) +54

   Kalmbach.ECare.Utilities.GetBackToWebsiteUrl() +33

   Controls_Header.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) +54

   System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) +99

   System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +47

   System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +131

   System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +131

   System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +131

   System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +1061

 Jon contacted some person at FSM on my behalf, a day after I sent a message  from my new account (gzt1)  and still no resolution. The worst part is: people are sending me PMs and I can not read them

I hope it will be resolved or I will have to leave this forum  for good,  Since I can not support GB I am responsible for ...

Jug GB

P-40 GB

Hurricane GB

I am just a bit frustrated ....

The bright side is: I did some serious work on my P-40B last night and I hope I will be able to post some picutres here soon . Today it will be a most difficult part: writing "Miss Kay" on an engine cawling !!