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  • Member since
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  • From: Schroon Lake, NY
Posted by SMJmodeler on Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:46 PM
bufflehead:  Thank you for the clear and concise description on those tracks...I came down to the office today specifically to write down the technique (no web at home).  I am just about to start the tracks for my Panther...this method will work great and help achieve the look I want, well worth the extra effort to get hereThumbs Up [tup].

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Posted by espins1 on Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:45 PM

When do you plan on posting the finished builds page?  I have made a couple of tweaks to my Pz.Kpfw. 38(t) Ausf. F.  I corrected the color of the handles on the wire cutters, which should be reddish brown as they are made of bakelite.  I have known that for a while now, but for some reason was in a hurry to finish this build and it slipped past me.  I also found a small PE bracket the carpet in my den for holding the two spare track links on the left rear fender and reattached it. 

Can I post an updated picture for the final build thread?

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by mg42gunner on Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:42 AM
Thanks dupes for letting me still go on. Should I post here or make a new post in the armor forum? Or both? And great idea with putting everyones pictures all together, thats something ive always wanted to see at the end of a GB.

SMJ- Yep, high school senior getting ready to go to college (dont worry ill grow a mustache or something to look older)
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Posted by some assembly required on Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:12 PM
yep a real class act Make a Toast [#toast] im am so down for the wintering.....

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Posted by detailfreak on Saturday, May 17, 2008 4:30 PM
very nice finishing touch there dupes.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by dupes on Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:53 PM

Hmmm. Saddler, did you JUST change the link for your pics? I just got Luftwoller's link to finish things up, and yours is now broken! I'll take it out for now, shoot me a new link/pic here in this thread as soon as you can and I'll add it to the wrap-up!

SMJ - I'll be very glad not to see any snow until December. Angry [:(!]

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:26 PM
dupes: I'd guess snow and winter are about the LAST thing you want to discuss right now!

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Posted by dupes on Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:24 PM

Why thank you sir. Bow [bow]

Definitely better to have them all in one post, rather than hoping that everyone adds their own pics (which ends up being about a MILLION pics) to a wrap up thread.

I would look for Winter Warriors II - The Wintering on the 1st of December. Wink [;)]

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:21 PM

dupes:  Nice way to wrap things up.  I like how you, as the moderator, make this post instead of all us participants...all of them together...easy viewing.  Nice work, and terrific "MC" job there sir.

...when did you say Winter Warriors II startsWink [;)]?

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Posted by dupes on Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:40 PM

The TEST POST:

This is the wrapup for the recently completed Winter Warriors GB - I went through the GB archives and pulled out what I considered to be the best single pic of each completed build. A few of the pics are in "not-quite-finished" stages, as in the ensuing time some pics had been moved...there are also some that were finished, but the builders sadly disappeared from the build. Warning - there ARE a couple of A/C in here...heh.

Completed Builds (in chronological finishing order, for the most part):

Biffa - T34


SMJModeler - SU-122


Plastic_Cross - M7 Priest


Arki30 - Bf-109F-4


Slightly Altered - Tiger I Late


Panzer88 - 251/9


Luftwoller - KVII

Tellis - M36


Dostacos - M8


Dupes - Panther


Detailfreak - Panzer III


Some Assembly Required - Marder III


BobBaily - T34


Townsy - Strv.103B


Dupes - Ju-87B-2 Stuka


Espins1 - 38(t)Ausf.F


Bufflehead - Panzer IV Ausf.G

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Posted by dupes on Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:39 PM

ALRIGHTY then. I've trudged through alllll 43 pages of wintery goodness, and here's what I've put together. I'm hoping this works, so I'm going to do a test-post here before putting it up in the armor forum.

LUFTWOLLER - you moved the pics of your KV-II! If you could pick out your favorite one and re-post it here with a working link, I would LOVE to add you to the completed roster!

JThurston - your T-34 was just about done...are you still out there anywhere? 

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Posted by dupes on Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:37 PM
I got smart, though, and went over to the Mexican restaurant across the street...much warmer in here, I can still snag the signal, and of course the Spicy Sausage Burrito with a side of Black Bean Soup with lime and sour cream is helping out as well. Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:36 AM
 dupes wrote:

(sitting in my car in the rain mooching some broadband off of the coffee shop in town - heh Wink [;)])

Laugh [(-D]  That's pretty funny dupes!!  I can't help but picture you huddling over a laptop furiously tapping on the keyboard, in a cold damp car parked in a dark alley, rain pounding on the roof, windows wet with interior condensation, and coffee customers sitting inside the shop nice & dry sipping on their java completely oblivious to your...."mooching"!!  hehe!  I LOVE IT!!  

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8

     

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:03 AM

MG42 - certainly feel free to continue posting your pics in this thread. Thumbs Up [tup] It's a bit late for the badge, however, and I'm actually working on the end-of-GB wrapup thread as we speak (sitting in my car in the rain mooching some broadband off of the coffee shop in town - heh Wink [;)]) so you probably won't make that.

Gotta go snag some lunch, but I shooooould be able to bang that thread out today. Look for it over in the armor forum. Cool [8D]

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:19 AM

 mg42gunner wrote:

...AP tests.

AP TESTSShock [:O]...are you still in high school?!?!  For Love & Rockets if you're turning out the quality of builds at your age G*d help us all!!!  

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Posted by mg42gunner on Friday, May 16, 2008 8:29 PM
Hey dupes, this past week has marked the end of any serious school work for me. Back to modeling! Is it ok if I resume my build and post pics? All I really have to do is weather it (snow, mud etc. all the camo is done already) or am I too late? I did finish all the painting and assembly back in april, just had to put a hold on modeling for studying for finals and AP tests.
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Posted by tellis on Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:52 AM
No problemo, it's just nice to be back in the land of the free, green trees and ice cold beer.

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Posted by dupes on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:46 AM

Ernest - you're absolutely welcome. Big Smile [:D]

Great explanation on these techniques - going to try some of this out. I've never been particularly satisfied with how my exhausts end up...and another cool-looking track method is ALWAYS welcome!

Pink, though? Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by bufflehead on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:14 PM

Thanks Townsy11!  It was a loooong build, but worth it!

OK, here's the deal with the tracks and exhaust.  Sorry, I didn't take any WIP photos of anything so I'll do the best I can to explain it:

First the tracks.  Credit for this goes to the doog and to Tom Cockle's "Modelling the Early Panzerkampfwagen IV", one of OSPREY Publishing's fine modeling guides.  If you read the doog's (Karl Logan) "Indy Track Link Tutorial" on the Armorama website you will know what I'm explaining.  The tracks were basecoated with "dark earth", my personal mix of Tamiya Flat Earth, Red Brown and Black.  I just mixed them until I got a medium brown color.  When this was dry I applied a heavy wash of Raw Umber followed by a medium heavy wash of black.   At this point the tracks looked pretty good, but I wanted a grittier, dirtier look to them.  For this I used the track weathering method in Tom Cockle's book.  He first basecoats in a dark earth enamel.  He then wets a brush with Tamiya acrylic thinner, dips it into different shades of ground pastels (tans, browns and rust), then daps the mix randomly over the tracks.  Since I basecoated in acrylic I simply switched to enamel thinner and dipped into Mig Pigments instead of pastels.  I used European Dust, Dried Mud and Black in different applications.  The European Dust dries very light so I had to tone it down with the Mud and Black.  This gave the tracks a very mottled, gritty, dirty, stained look...close to what I wanted, but not quite.  However, not wanting to spend any more time on it I left them as is.  I then stuck my fingertip into some Gunpowder Mig Pigment, ground the pigment into my fingertip until it had a nice shine and then rubbed it over the raised outside part of the tracks, and over the guide horns on the inside.  Lastly I took a black charcoal art pencil and rubbed it in over the inside part of the tracks that the roadwheels would contact.  That's it!

I tried something new with the exhaust:  First I hand brushed the exhaust with Vallejo Model Color #835 Salmon Rose, which is a light pink color, over the Panzer Gray basecoat.  This left a nice mottled effect.  Yeah I know...PINK!  Then using a chocolate colored mix I dabbed on small dots, concentrating on the inside and outside corners and the places that would get very hot.  Looked pretty strange at this point!  Then I took a heavily thinned black/brown mix and post shaded with my AB over the exhaust aiming for a very mottled look.  Its was looking pretty good now, but I wanted a grittier look so I took some dark brown pastels and some Old Rust Mig Pigments and starting dabbing it on with a little enamel thinner.  When this was almost dry I took a brush wet with enamel thinner and removed some of the rust and brown in certain areas. Then I mixed dark brown and black pastels and did the same in random areas, using the enamel thinner to tone down areas that were overdone.  A little flat black ABed on the exhaust pipe and that's it!  To be honest I went overboard with the dark colors and as a result the exhaust came out darker than I wanted, but it still looked pretty good...better than any of my previous efforts.  I learned this technique from Sam Dwyer's articles in "Model Military International" magazine (sorry! no plug intended FSM!), so credit goes to him!

I hope this explained things well enough.  I'm not a professional writer so my composition is lacking! 

dupes, THANKS for your great hosting of an awesome GB!!

I'm eagerly awaiting WINTER WARRIORS II!!!

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8

     

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Posted by Townsy11 on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:48 PM
Wow, awesome work Bufflehead! looks great!
"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by bufflehead on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:08 PM
 dupes wrote:

Huh...no replies from Bufflehead. I see how it is, Ernest. WITHOLDING SECRETS!!! Evil [}:)]

 

Laugh [(-D]

Sorry guys!  I've been too busy at work to respond and when I got home yesterday my computer crashed!!  Banged Head [banghead]  Its still not working, but I'm at work now so I've got a few minutes during break....

Thanks everyone for all the kind words!  I had a vision on how this was SUPPOSED to look, but it turned out a little different!!  I made some mistakes along the way and there are some things I missed.  SMJ pointed out a couple of issues, some of the weathering came out funky and the tracks and exhaust actually did not turn out the way I initially planned!  When I have time today I'll post a few lines on how I did them.  Nothing special, just combined some standard techniques and a couple of new ones I read about.

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8

     

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Posted by some assembly required on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:37 AM
thanks tellis and for what its worth thanks for puttimg yourself on the line for usBow [bow]

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:23 AM
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that finished build post myself...Laugh [(-D] Just need to find some time to take me and the new laptop down to the coffee shop so I can run back through the entire GB on broadband. With the wife heading off to Denver for 6 days, I should have AMPLE opportunities to do so. Wink [;)] Not to mention a ton of build time. Mmmmmm. Build time. Heh.
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Posted by tellis on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:11 AM
Wow, a nice finale to a really cool GB. I've been catching up on the posts from the past 8 weeks (had to go back overseas to finish up my tour in the 'Stan) Badge or not, your Mk IV looks great, worth the wait. Also, kudos to the Marder and the 38(t) as well as Dupes' Stuka. I'm looking forward to the finished build post. Great job everyone!

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:49 AM

Huh...no replies from Bufflehead. I see how it is, Ernest. WITHOLDING SECRETS!!! Evil [}:)]

 

Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by panzer88 on Monday, May 12, 2008 6:00 PM
Simply "AWESOME"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gorgeous build.Bow [bow]

     

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Posted by espins1 on Monday, May 12, 2008 5:57 PM
 some assembly required wrote:

bufflehead --youre killin' me man!! as soon as i saw that pz4 i fell in love.that has got to be one of the finest 4s ive seen.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] that is definatelly on my "must build list".

                                                                great model

                                                                   S.A.R

I agree.... the more I look at it the more I love it!!! 

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by some assembly required on Monday, May 12, 2008 4:38 PM

bufflehead --youre killin' me man!! as soon as i saw that pz4 i fell in love.that has got to be one of the finest 4s ive seen.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] that is definatelly on my "must build list".

                                                                great model

                                                                   S.A.R

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  • From: Schroon Lake, NY
Posted by SMJmodeler on Monday, May 12, 2008 12:53 PM
bufflehead: Beautiful Panzer!  Fantastic job on the gray showing through the whitewash...very convincing and not overdoneThumbs Up [tup]. You may want to dirty her up a bit in the high foot traffic areas (top of turret) and maybe even add a little grime in the hand hold spots (hatches).  I'll third that exhaust and track request, it's some of the finest I've seen.

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