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1/16th Trumpeter T34/76 Update Pg3. Dec 2

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  • From: Dublin Rep Of Ireland
Posted by terry35 on Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:39 PM

No work as of late Toni, boxed up for a while, working on something this big takes time, and the second I feel like I'm going to rush or cut corners, I always put it away. Thats mainly for safety sake, I just don't want to destroy anything by being stupid.

I go back to it when I feel I can give it 100% concentration, no more no less.

Terry.

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Posted by lexesbenz on Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:28 PM
Hey Terry thanks, Have you been working on this kit anymore lately?
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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:59 PM

Thanks Graham, glad you like it. Toni, I've uploaded some pics of T34's to a photo bucket folder. Either Pm or e-mail me and I will send you the link. THanks capnjacksparo, wheres your T34/85 at the moment?

Hows your half track comming along, wheres this weekends progress?

Terry.

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Posted by jacksparo on Thursday, January 8, 2009 5:50 PM
Hi Mr. Terry So yu have two of these t34's...one painted and one white?? Why do you have a white one...is this winter camoflage.....if so should that wheel with the strap not be white too....think the white one is bootiful. Great job...patience of a saint...
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Posted by Boba Fett on Thursday, January 8, 2009 1:58 PM

Ohh-Emm-Jee, Amazing! This is super cool! If any build right now deserves a Bow [bow] this one does! (And I thought your Y-wing looked good...)

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Posted by lexesbenz on Thursday, January 8, 2009 1:49 PM
Wow Terry that would be great!! I appreciate that very much.
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Posted by terry35 on Thursday, January 8, 2009 7:11 AM

Hi Toni, I will be back on at the weekend, I use two broadband connections at home a 1mb, and a 3mb.

I do have about 100 or more photos that may be of use to you. I will either upload them in batches to you or create a new photo bucket account for you and let you work at them at your own leisure.

I will PM you saturday afternoon.

Terry.

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Posted by lexesbenz on Wednesday, January 7, 2009 9:46 PM
Wow, Terry thanks, I borrowed the T-34 mythical weapon book from a friend, he said I can keep it until I'm done with the build, what page does the book show the PTO and suspension units? I looked but then again I tend too miss the important details. I cant thank you enough for the reference photos an explanations, thanks!!!
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Posted by terry35 on Wednesday, January 7, 2009 5:11 PM

Hi, Toni, to start the unit in the center of the floor is the PTO  (power-take-off) that scratchbuilt part is pretty accurate. Youu will have to copy an ammo bin for the floor. 

Now as for the batteries look at the with between the two suspensoin units, you will have to scratch those as well, and do them from tube, the swing arm for the suspension sit into them.

So that is the lenght of the batteries for a 76, through research we have come to the conclusion that theh batteries were "wet", each cell wrapped and joined in series. The height of the batteries should be below the radiator bracket, drop that a couple of mm so your radiators will fit.

The fuel cells are based on stuff from the now defunct tanxheaven, but have since been confirmed to be correct in T34 Mythical weapon. They were drawn in a cad programme and cut into laminates of plastic card on an engraving machine. Its been a few years since that programme was created.

I highly recommend you get intouch with treadwell, he has done a fantastic job on an engine mount and has done a drawing with measurements.

I trawled for a while and got you some links that might be of use to you,

http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1095/1005123281_2d706f2772.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/dahlin/1005123281/&usg=__Ujc0OcQyJY_1pWaz9vHsJ5bPSDA=&h=500&w=335&sz=136&hl=en&start=7&sig2=g8MtPkisSP2pHEWuQNHZHw&tbnid=3sf6LO1Q0YwZJM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=87&ei=LillSc67Mom0jAeCuPnUCQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3DT34%2Binterior%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://photos.kitmaker.net/data/12349/thumbs/daz.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.armorama.com/modules.php%3Fop%3Dmodload%26name%3DSquawkBox%26file%3Dindex%26req%3Dviewtopic%26topic_id%3D128852%26page%3D1&usg=__pS543oIMO-BAZb0KVQSCR3uDHYY=&h=150&w=150&sz=5&hl=en&start=135&sig2=Qnjfb8K0049yNSO4Wrr1SQ&tbnid=Noi8DZ2zW4lNvM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=96&ei=eSplSfufGo-vjAeP-fnWCQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3DT34%2Binterior%26start%3D126%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/T-34-85_interior_Parola_Tank_Museum.jpg&imgrefurl=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:T-34-85_interior_Parola_Tank_Museum.jpg&usg=__11bVb39o-yYj9KpHE8f0T4fksJ0=&h=768&w=1024&sz=295&hl=en&start=4&sig2=7erRtdW1vmqFkb857EhEPQ&tbnid=EhV2SPmx-rNmXM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&ei=LillSc67Mom0jAeCuPnUCQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3DT34%2Binterior%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

With this kit, you need to scratch most of the missing parts, so the cost is minimal, so I cannot recommend T34 Mythical Weapon to you enough, its expensive but boy OH boy by the time you finish you will not regret the cost.

Terry.

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Posted by lexesbenz on Monday, January 5, 2009 12:10 AM

Terry, I decided to give my love to the T-34 I'm going to build it right. So I am going to scratch build as much of the interior as I can, I was wondering though, How did you make the pattern on the fuel cells? do you have any reference photos or dimensions for the batteries you have made? and lastly, you told me I had to make a PTO for the turret, I'm not very familiar with tank terminology yet, could you explain what that is? I can't thank you enough.

Tony

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Posted by lexesbenz on Saturday, January 3, 2009 1:46 PM
Thanks!!
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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, January 3, 2009 10:49 AM

Thanks Karl, Happy New Year to you my friend and all your family.I never got back to you with a 1/35th beside it for comparsion, I'm sorry for that but I put the kit away for a few weeks/months as ploughing into this and rushing would be criminal at this stage.

Lexesbenz, I was using an actual manual for a T34 which was published on the internet but can't find it. The book I'm using is the same as treadwell , T34 mythical weapon from airconnection in Canada, its about $130 Canadian, but worth every penny.

Happy New Year to all.

Terry.

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, January 3, 2009 12:00 AM
WOW, terry--that's looking pretty serious! Nice work on those seats and that valve thing!
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Posted by lexesbenz on Friday, January 2, 2009 11:58 PM
Terry sweet build man!!!! any new updates? by the way do you have a link to a detailed T-34/76 walkaround??
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Posted by terry35 on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:46 PM

Tues. Got home and was too tired to do any work, so I thought I'd post some progress.

Some weathering on a side panel. More to be done.

One of the scratchbuilt gate valves painted.

Exhausts almost done.

One of the chairs Bulked out with Gamesworkshop Putty.

Painted, I decided to add some tears and simulate some of the stuffing sticking out. Now I need  to see a shrink.

Oh, I used wire wool, stuffed into the gaps then trimmed.

Some more.

I know the seats look a bit red at the moment but I must now work out how they will look when installed, I mean from the point of view of how they will be seen through the hatch.

 

I will be doing a lot more on these but I just feel a bit tired at the moment. I'm going upstairs to watch "Family Guy".

Thanks for Looking.

Regards,

Terry.

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Posted by steveoccc on Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:34 PM

Hey Terry,

   A fantastic build, both amazing and depressing to me, amazing in it's quality and depressing to know that my build will never compare favorably to it!

   I've just started working on this and my build will be straight OOB except for an aftermarket metal barrel. I've been having minor problems with painting. I use Tamiya primer and spray cans  and the plastic doesnt seem to agree with the tamiya acrylics, I'm having to use very light coats, anything heavier just causes bubbles on the surface of the part. I tried washing all the sprues in warm water and that helped somewhat but I'm debating on switching paint.

 

Cheers,

Steve

"First, they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me." Martin Niemöller: The Resistance (1892-1984)
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Posted by K-dawg on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:03 PM

Awesome work for sure.. Can't wait to see more man..

 

KC

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:03 PM

Wow. Like's been said, makes me feel like I should hang up my tools.......

Awesome work.Thumbs Up [tup]

Apprentice rivet counter.

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Posted by dante on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:32 AM

Hi Terry

The half track is on hold, there's severable builds going on now and I have to solve some problems with the build. I'll wait until they catch up.

Go to your other message /forums/1032822/ShowPost.aspx I'm not sure if I gave you this other site.

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:22 AM

 Terry, This truly an engineering marvel of multimedia in modeling, speaking of engineering what firm are you the owner of, or are you just the head engineer? Your skills take modeling to the level of museum quality scratchbuilding. Lookout, if the "Smithsonian" sees this you may be asked to build one in 1/16th scale or is it 1/8th? Beautiful work Terry.

 I now consider myself an assembler of plastic parts, Disastermaster, move over I need some space under that rock you guys are under.

All gave some and some gave all.

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Posted by terry35 on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:54 AM

Hi, Dante, I forgot that in America the trade of fitter is probably known differently, I think in the states its known as a MILLWRIGHT. Basically its a qualification in the engineering trades for a person who will be able to make precision parts from scratch, from supplied drawings.

It involves turning, Milling, welding, grinding, pipe work and a couple of other things. I done that and plant maintenance. It is an engineering qualification.

I hope that clears it up a bit.

Hows the haalf track comming along?

Hope your keeping well.

Terry.

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Posted by dante on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:38 PM

Hi Terry

Pardon my stupidity, what is a fitter.

Dan

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:29 PM

Sign - Oops [#oops] Sorry about that the only part I meant to be taken seriously was the part where I am going to bury myself in the back yard as I cannot hope to compete with such fine work. I guess that part is even more justified now.

 BTW  your rust and corrosin are clearly from steel made from Iron ore from Norway as oppossed to From the Russian Urals. You can tell by the color of the oxidation. Work on it.

Shock [:O]Make a Toast [#toast]

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Posted by terry35 on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:13 PM

Cheers, Thanks, you got me there, Ya see I am in the engineering trades, fitter to be exact, I worked in the Glass industry for 17 years, and am all too aware of the consequences of the wrong lubrications being used. But I did notice that a new machine will look the same as a 30 year old machine after about 6 months in service.

I used the "ARTY FARTY" method of doing the stains but do know that a machine in service for 3 to 4 years will be in a state after the kind of running these got, and not to put too fine a point on it but the T34 was never built with engineering excellence in mind. I think the Q.C. guys only got a Crayon drawing of the shape of what a T34 was meant to look like.

I do remember Hilary Doyle telling me at one time that at the panther assembly plant 20 or so hulls were rejected because the red primer did not exactly match the swatch book.

I believe him because heis in posession of original paint cards.

Thanks again.

Must  go and do some painting on my tank. I'm gonna watch Blade2 as well.

Terry Burke.

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:01 PM

 Uh that was kinda not a serious reply Banged Head [banghead]  You know all too well I am crazy about your work...... You know we Irish fellows gotta stick together!  I mean eyeballing oil weight at any scale? Im just a little nuts thats all. Pirate [oX)]Make a Toast [#toast]

I will say though in our deisal engines the bottom of the engine compartments were pretty nasty. Especially after a rain fall where the sludge would float on the trapped rain water. Unscrewing the drain plug was always one of those moments I will treasure.

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Posted by terry35 on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:48 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

 Hope I am not being too critical but it is all too apparent that your oil stains are from a modern 5-40 Weight oil when they should be a russian 30 wt oil. The heavier weight oils were a no no in that they would make the engines more difficult to start in extreme cold. Probably need to work on that. Other than that it looks ok, I guess................

 

Thanks,  what exactly do you mean about the stains. I'm  intrigued, I have the ones that will be visible placed under the radiator, but would they be lighter or heavier. Please clarify and I will try to correct. Honestly I do appreciate this input.

Thank You "sfcmac".

Reagrds,

Terry Burke.

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Posted by sfcmac on Monday, November 17, 2008 8:54 PM

 Hope I am not being too critical but it is all too apparent that your oil stains are from a modern 5-40 Weight oil when they should be a russian 30 wt oil. The heavier weight oils were a no no in that they would make the engines more difficult to start in extreme cold. Probably need to work on that. Other than that it looks ok, I guess................

Geeze I am going out to the back yard and bury myself now! How do you compete with that?

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Posted by Moon Puppy on Monday, November 17, 2008 8:43 PM

You're getting some great reference picts but when do you start on the build??Clown [:o)]

 

Needless to say, outstanding work.

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 17, 2008 7:54 PM

Nice to see you still slugging away on this one Terry, it's already a showstopper now and it's not anywhere near completion! Thumbs Up [tup]

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