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CGM Prod. 1/35 M3 105mm Mountain Howitzer, Complete, 5/11/09

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  • From: Dublin Rep Of Ireland
Posted by terry35 on Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:37 PM

I'm enjoying the build alot and its great to see resin kits being used. I don't know why more people try them, well saying that I tried a wodden boat, no more about that.

I think there is factors like cost, clean up, quality of parts and I could go on and on......

You seem to have the bull by the horns here.

Keep up the good work.

Terry.

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:32 PM

Bill - Always a pleasure to have you stop in!!

Terry & Steve - glad you are enjoying it. It makes the time to post worth while. as far as the hard work....so so resin kits can be a challange.

Thanks to all of you for your kind comments. (yes Karl.....I'm looking for a bulb!!)

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:15 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by terry35 on Sunday, April 12, 2009 6:27 PM

I really enjoyed reading through your W.I.P the kit looks brilliant so far. All theh hard work is paying off well.

Terry.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, April 12, 2009 1:34 PM
Coming along great Mike, nice work on the details.
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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, April 12, 2009 10:16 AM

Karl = Yep.....I usaully use two lights but one of them....went the way of OOPs on the floor...need to get a new bulb.

OD I have the felling does not do well wilth blue background...especially low light....will change to white until more light....Thanks.

Doc - Thanks for looking. That's my....trademark....the different

Thanks for looking and for your comments.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:37 AM

 Mike, I have never seen this piece before. She's got a very menacing look about her. She's looking great.Thumbs Up [tup]

                                                                 doc

All gave some and some gave all.

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:21 AM

The build looks good, Mike!

You have to get some better lighting for your pics though; either that or try a white or gray background. The light you have there is casting a weird, ethereal blue pall on your finish, similar to the problems I think "CitadelGrad" (Bill) was having in that Sherman build.

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, April 12, 2009 7:51 AM

Kevin - Thanks for stopping in. As far as the figs...I think I am looking at the Dragon airborne figs....just have to get them in some artillery positions. But in concept..Gino and Joe will be in this one.

Yep, this is different and rare, but you know me...different is my middle name!!

Gino - Thanks for looking in. It won't be long now and things can go back to normal!

Marc - The fall may be interesting this year!!

Thanks to all of you for looking in and Happy Easter and Passover to all!!

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, April 12, 2009 6:31 AM
Lookin' good Mike.  Keep at it... October is right around the cornerWink [;)]

Marc  

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, April 12, 2009 4:32 AM
Looks great mike.  Good job on it.  I can't wait to get home and get back to modeling...among other things. Big Smile [:D]

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell

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Posted by minimortar on Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:20 PM

Sweeeeeeeet lookin' piece of arty there Mike!! Any plans to add a figure or two to this for size comparison? Nice rarity for the collection fer sure!

Bow [bow]

Thanks,
Kevin Keefe

Mortars in Miniature
A Scale Model (Plus!) Collection of the Infantryman's Artillery

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Posted by redleg12 on Saturday, April 11, 2009 8:30 PM

After the parts bath, I began work on the lower carriage;

  • 1. A coat of Tamiya Black for a prime on all the lower carriage parts
  • 2. Assembled the trails to the lower carriage
  • 3. A coat of a mix of Tamiya OD and Green Yellow on all the parts
  • 4. Tips of the trail bars were painted with Alclad Steel
  • 5. Trail bars mounted on the top of each trail
  • 6. A small section of blue painted tape was attached to each ramming staff to simulate straps the painted with Model Master OD
  • 7. The opposite tips of the styrene wire used for the ramming staffs were stripped to expose the wire to simulate the screw section
  • 8. The ramming staffs were mounted

In between drying cycles for the lower carriage I took the upper carriage and howitzer and:  

  • 1. Primed with Tamiya Flat Black
  • 2. Masked the breech
  • 3. Painted with the Tamiya mix.
  • 4. Once the green mix was dry, the howitzer was masked and the breech was painted with Alclad Steel.
  • 5. The breech block was primed and then painted with Alclad Polished Aluminum.
  • 6. The equilibrators were primed
  • 7. After drying the piston section masked and the remaining portion painted with the Tamiya mix.
  • 8. After the mix dried, the masking was reversed and the piston section was painted with Alclad Polished Aluminum

After the lower carriage was assembled;

  • 1. The tires were painted with a mix of Tamiya Flat Black and NATO Black.
  • 2. After drying, I used a circle template painted the rims with the Tamiya Green mix.
  • 3. After the tires were dry they were mounted to the lower carriage.
  • 4. Using MIG Faded US Green I shaded the inner areas.

With everything dry on the upper carriage:

  • 1. Assembled the howitzer was to upper carriage
  • 2. Installed the equilibrators
  • 3. Installed the breech block
  • 4. Fabricated the breech block lever from a strip of .020 styrene
  • 5. Painted the breech lock handle (from Italeri M101 kit) with Alclad Aluminum
  • 6. Installed breech lock handle
  • 7. Painted firing lock with Alclad Steel and installed
  • 8. Applied some MIG Faded US Green to upper section.
  • 9. Assembled the upper and lower section
  • 10. Applied a Burnt Sienna wash to the entire howitzer.
  • 11. Applied some MIG Dried Mud to the tires

Here is a rear view of the M3, You can also see the trail locking pins fabricated from .026 SS wire.

That's it for now. What remains are some details including the section chest straps, sights then some final dry brushing and work with graphite. Then it will be on to the base.

Time since last time hack - 6.0 hours

H Hour Total 15.5 hours since start

Thanks for looking in, all comments welcome

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:22 PM

Karl - Thanks, that dio actually was my first build after coming back to the hobby....humm 4 years or so ago.  It's good to go back and look at every now and then.

Thanks for the comments on the current build....I know...its resin....Doog is allergic to resin Shock [:O]

Thanks Again

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:53 PM

Mike,

A hell of a nice WIP you've got going here!

Good work on the current project here, and on that dio you put up as well--really nice stuff! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:50 PM

Bill - Its always fun to wake up to the smell of muzzle blast in the morning!! Thanks

Wayne - Always a pleasure to have you stop in. Thanks for the comments and for watching.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by I make stuff on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:55 AM

Redleg, this is a cool build.  I like the completed build, too.

WE had a couple of howitzers, Betsy and Lizzie, at the Citadel, that our salute gun battery fired at parades, there's NOTHING like hearing artillery.  

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, March 30, 2009 5:31 PM
Very nice! -and will do, hopefully soon.

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Monday, March 30, 2009 5:09 PM

To give you an idea of the artillery stuff....here is an old build of mine showing an M102 and M35A2 set in position

The howitzer area

The back of the truck

When you are ready, if you need help, just pull my lanyard

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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  • From: Colorado
Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, March 30, 2009 4:29 PM
Thank you! Yeah, I understood it to be quite the set up, I just figured something on the smaller scale would at least scale down the effect of all that ammo and equipment, I'd love to build a Long Tom, but the footprint the gun alone looks huge. This one by Chuck Aleshire looks incredibly sparse, but still a big base- and it’s still hanging off the end. Thanks for all the kit breakdowns, I appreciate it, if I can get some money soon and pick one up, I’ll make sure to do it right.

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, March 30, 2009 1:55 PM

As I told Manny in his thread on the 150mm gun, an artillery position is the most complicated positions to show. Even with a small gun like this, there will be live ammo, ammo crates, open crates, fired brass, section chest, commuication (phone or walki-talki), ramming staffs, and personal weapons & equipment stacked.

Even a hasty position which has been fired from will have much of the above. I was planning on all this for the M3.

If it is a matter of staying small, in the WWII era you have the M3 105mm, The M2 105mm, kit from Italeri, little bit bigger than the M3. Also the M1A1 75mm pack which various resin kits, Tamiya old metal kit and a new styrene kit coming from a new company called Vision.

105mm ammunition is avalable from Verlinden. The also made 75mm pack ammo. That kit is discontinued but shows up now and then on ebay. Crates for both can be found from Verlinden and others. On all of these I would recommend you buy one and cast as much more as you need.

Commo equipment is availabe from Warrior and Verlinden. Ramming staffs are scratch from styrene rod.

The M3 kit goes for about $25 from CGM. You will pay about the same for a 75mm pack resin kit, most of which are copies of the Tamiya metal kit. The Tamiya kit on ebay will be about $50+. The Italeri M2 105mm will be in the range of $15-20.

Hope this helps.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, March 30, 2009 1:31 PM
Hmmm... in that case, are there any good plastic (or better resin) kits worth the money and on par with the details? I’ve been wanting to make a good looking artillery piece, but most I come across are huge and would require a ton of extras all around that would dominate any dio I’d have planned- so along the same size as the Mountain Gun so I could give it it’s own little position and crew with a smaller footprint? If nothing comes to mind immediately, it’s no problem. Figured you’d be the one to ask though! Smile [:)]

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, March 30, 2009 9:52 AM

Chris & Bill - Thanks. Since this is an off beat item I thought it best to be anal and do step by step. Glad you liked it.

As far as the kit, I will try to fid CGMs web and pass it on BUT.....unless you are an artillery "lover"Propeller [8-] like I am, the kit itself has VERY POOR instructions. I have had to read half of the TM to make sure it is assembled correctly and find what was missing. The molding is a cottage industry quality. Voids, trapped air, etc. Most of the early hours were cleaning, filling and sanding. I also have to cast a set of sights from the Italeri kit.

Straight up, for the money, it is not worth it. For me, it fills the gap on the list of US artillery and no one else has this model and from that end, I'm ok with it. Most others may not!!!

If you like playing with resin, are interested in the subject and are looking for something airborne..ok but...this little kit will require work.

Just letting you know...then again, my calling card is the strange and different. Shock [:O]

Thanks guys for the kind words and support.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, March 30, 2009 9:22 AM
Have to agree about the way you've laid this one out Mike and identified the different parts that you've added. Making good progress! Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, March 29, 2009 6:47 PM
WOAH! What a great step by step- this is nicer than some FSM articles I've read through! Very well done- making me want to hunt eBay for the CGM kit redleg- now I'm really looking forward to seeing this one come together!

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, March 29, 2009 6:34 PM

I spent a bunch of time cleaning up the parts and then began assembly. First, I assembled the gun and sled section.

  • 1. Attached the sled mounts on either side (these attach to the carriage and support the sights)
  • 2. Installed the breech
  • 3. Installed the elevating gear
  • 4. Scratch built and installed the travel lock assembly The pin is styrene covered rod which is stripped except for the end attachment point. The lock catch is styrene rod with a flat plate of styrene glued to the top to create the catch. The lock itself is a kit supplied part.

Next was the lower carriage

  • 1. Installed the wheel locking handle
  • 2. Firing base release pedal
  • 3. Scratch repair for the firing base pivot joint. These were made using a Waldron punch to punch .020 styrene sheet
  • 4. Attached the firing base (installed in the firing position)

            Attached the swivel axel for each wheel. These were installed in the firing position

 

Moving on to the trails.

  • 1. Using 26 gauge wire, I fabricated the hold down for the section chest straps and installed on both trails
  • 2. Attached the towing pintel
  • 3. Drilled out the trail lock for a trail locking pin
  • 4. Using .020 styrene, I fabricated ramming staff holders. These will hold two ramming staffs which will be fabricated from styrene covered wire. The ramming staffs are only mounted on the right trail (as you look from the front).
  • 5. Using .020 styrene, I fabricated the section chest holding blocks. The section chest would contain the sights and tools for working with the ammunition. I will have a section chest on the ground nearby which will be taken from an Italeri Kit.

Lastly the upper carriage

  • 1. Mounted the traversing hand wheel (hidden from view)
  • 2. Using Archer raised detail to enhance the traversing gear box cover.
  • 3. Mounted the equilibrator mounts and added Archer details
  • 4. Archer detail on the elevating gear box cover
  • 5. Attached the elevating hand wheel

With all this done, the parts were given a good bath, rinse and drying. They are in the process of being primed along with the equilibrators, breech block and trail bars.

That's it for now. Hopefully base paint and pull the subassemblies together next.

Time since last time hack - 7.0 hours

H Hour Total 9.5 hours since start

Thanks for looking in, all comments welcome

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:15 AM

Bill - Thanks....I'm glad to pass on information. This hobby is also a historical learning experience.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:54 AM
Welcome back home Mike! Looking forward to this one, I had seen one of these on Corregidor when I visited there in 2005 but didn't know what it was...now I do! Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:20 AM

Hans - Not sure if these guys are still in buisness. I have tried to find them with no luck. Found this kit on ebay a year or so ago.

Marc - Unfortunatly I have a family commitment the weekend of MCon and it looks like I won't be able to make it this year. Besides, I never build for shows...I doubt something like this would do well with all the bigger super stuff out there. This is a true "redleg" build.

Huxy - Hummm, much of the other allies are not well represented. There is a ton of just US variants that are not made or only in resin. I feel your pain.

Kevin - Yep....you know me....I find & build the horse of another color. This should be a nice little display of a not too well know item. I'm sure many of your mortars are like this. Thank god for the TM.

Thanks to all for stopping in and leaving a comment. Hopefully this helps expand your mind!!

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by minimortar on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:47 AM
Lookin' forward to this one too Mike! Dang... you sure do come up with some different subjects!

Thanks,
Kevin Keefe

Mortars in Miniature
A Scale Model (Plus!) Collection of the Infantryman's Artillery

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