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Posted by mg.mikael on Saturday, July 3, 2010 2:37 PM

USAFSPOOK

I know I am late to this post, but you probably cannot find pictures of the T-72 in Afghanistan because, as far as I know, they were not used during the Soviets time there during 1979-1989.  T-55s and T-62s, but not the T-72.  There may have been some specialist based T-72 vehicles, but no combat tanks.  Kind of like we did not have M-60 MBTs in Vietnam, but used M-48s.  If someone has factual evidence that T-72s were there, please post it, as I have been unable to find or see anything to verify their presence.  If they were there, I would be interested to know which units had them and in what quanitity.     

Actually I found a reference(but can't find the link at this time) that said there were no T-72 pics because they were one of the latest new weapons they had and they wanted to keep pics from leaking out to the West, in other words the US. Thus orders were handed down to troops not to take any images, probably also why the T-72's that served their were free from unit markings and etc(probably due in part to them not being part of units but their for testing.) As for their use in Afghanistan it seems to be mostly testing and development near the Soviet bases with no combat. Here are a few links that mention the T-72 in the Soviet-Afghan War.

http://www.army-technology.com/news/news62196.html

http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/11380394

http://www.anistor.gr/english/enback/e001.htm

 

 

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Posted by USAFSPOOK on Friday, July 2, 2010 7:05 PM

I know I am late to this post, but you probably cannot find pictures of the T-72 in Afghanistan because, as far as I know, they were not used during the Soviets time there during 1979-1989.  T-55s and T-62s, but not the T-72.  There may have been some specialist based T-72 vehicles, but no combat tanks.  Kind of like we did not have M-60 MBTs in Vietnam, but used M-48s.  If someone has factual evidence that T-72s were there, please post it, as I have been unable to find or see anything to verify their presence.  If they were there, I would be interested to know which units had them and in what quanitity.     

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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, July 2, 2010 4:49 PM

mg.mikael

disastermaster-.............Thanks for that fantastic idea of using that anti-static wrapping, I have tons of it, but for some reason I just plain never thought of using that. Definitely will try it out next time!Yes

 

'Ya welcome.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff63/candycanesurprise/smileys/bigguy.gif.................it's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it".

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Posted by mg.mikael on Friday, July 2, 2010 4:35 PM

wbill76- Thanks for the comments(and thanks again for the manuscript help!)

Killjoy, Dre, hughes2682- Thanks for checkin' out the build guys, and I'm glad your lovin' all the little added 'scratch' extras.Smile

disastermaster- 'Seeing the light'....guess my first time doing the technique of adding wrapping paper to the lights was a success. Thanks for that fantastic idea of using that anti-static wrapping, I have tons of it, but for some reason I just plain never thought of using that. Definatley will try it out next time!Yes

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Posted by mg.mikael on Friday, July 2, 2010 4:22 PM

bbrowniii

 

 mg.mikael:

 

.....now where are the people that love it.Wink

 

 

C'mon now... I gave you a Yes and a Beer...  that equals love in my book...Geeked

So that's what the beer means. I'll drink to that!Toast

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, July 1, 2010 6:27 PM

Okay, it's time for me to clock in on this......

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m439/Barriss-Offee/Smileys/thumbsupplz.pngAnd yes, I'm definitely "seeing the light" here.

                                        Two thumbs up, 'cause that's all I got!

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/CommentCrazyGirl/Smileys%20Emotions/Waiting%20Suspicious/twiddle.gifThe protective anti-static wrapping used on replacement computer hard drives has a smoky translucent appearance which is excellent for periscopes too.http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m439/Barriss-Offee/Smileys/thumbsup2plz.png

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:52 PM

mg.mikael

.....now where are the people that love it.Wink

C'mon now... I gave you a Yes and a Beer...  that equals love in my book...Geeked

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by hughes2682 on Thursday, July 1, 2010 12:40 PM

RBaer

I like it a lot!

I personally think T72s look like hot rods with the skirts off, as well.

Yes

Ditto  A rather lethal hot rod.  I got on board with this one late but, I will go back and read the beginnings of this build.  I do really like the lights and the mantlet cover. You should be very proud of this build sir. YesYesYes

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Posted by Dre on Thursday, July 1, 2010 12:20 PM

I think that you knocked this one outta the park- the lights and gun shroud are enough to be proud of, but all of the extra work that you've done is really sweet.

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Posted by Killjoy on Thursday, July 1, 2010 12:04 PM

Excellent build! You really did yourself proud with this one!

Chris

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, July 1, 2010 10:06 AM

Very nice work Michael, definitely one to be proud of to have on your shelf! Beer

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Posted by mg.mikael on Thursday, July 1, 2010 9:19 AM

RBaer, wing_nut, and bbrowniii - Glad you guy's all like it, thanks for the comments! Hmmm.....now where are the people that love it.Wink

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:32 AM

Put me in the 'I like it' crowd too!!  Well done! YesBeer

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, July 1, 2010 7:10 AM

Yup, me too.  I like it.

Marc  

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:28 PM

I like it a lot!

I personally think T72s look like hot rods with the skirts off, as well.

Yes

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Posted by mg.mikael on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:47 PM

Alrighty then, I said I'd get those finished pics up and here they are. Weathering consisted of an overall grime wash(to get that dry arid feel), then a light dirt color made from burnt umber and Floquil aged concrete. With those two washes done, I then did some pinwashes here and there with burnt umber for a little dark splotching, and aged concrete for some very light areas of weathering. Once letting that dry, I took a graphite pencil to areas on the hull, fenders, and turret and really rubbed it in. Creating the appearance of areas where the paint rubbed off showing the metal.

Sealed that in with Krylon, finished up with pastels, and an iron powder wash to the exhaust. Hopefully it created a realistic appearance to what a T-72 in testing may look like in a non-combat postion during the Soviet-Afghan War. The parts I scratched include.......yeah right, like I'm gonna list everything. If you wish to know what I scratched, modified, and removed then your simply gonna have to read the entire WIP.Stick out tongue

 

Thanks to all those who followed this WIP and for checkin' out this build! All comments and questions welcome!!

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Posted by mg.mikael on Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:41 PM

The infra-red light is in place and so is all the vision blocks. So now I can safely say all construction is 100% completed. Woo Hoo!Cool

Vision blocks have been finished, drilling out would be a ridiculous waste of time considering how small they are. So I simply took a fine-point sharpie and used that for coloring in the vision block areas, then I took some clear plastic and simply cut to size and glued(using a clear parts cement) the pieces over the 'sharpied' areas. Done and done....simple yet adds some extra detail.

Infra-red light is also in place, used the same process as I did with the search light on the turret. (process was discussed in an earlier post.....so if you want some info on it go back to the older posts.Wink) I also finished all the headlights and mini-searchlights using the 'wrapping paper' process but for all those I didn't drill them out, considering they were way too small. Also light wiring has been added too.

Oh, and finally the mantlet has been painted in a burlap color made from mixing Testor's wood, olive green, and black. Once the paint dryed I started adding some pin wahses to the mantlet, like black burnt umber here and there in the fabric folds. Now with construction all finished up, it's onto weathering the beast. Lower hull and suspenion areas were weathered before tracks were installed so now it's onto the upper hull. Hope to get the first wash on later today......yes, one more update before the final pics!

 Thanks for looking!Smile

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Posted by mg.mikael on Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:18 PM

Thanks for the comments, camo junkie!Smile

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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:48 AM

yep, im really liking this one mg.

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Posted by mg.mikael on Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:24 PM

doog- Thanks for stoppin' by, and thank you for the comments. Glad that light technique payed off.Wink

wbill76- Thanks, now it's onto getting the vision blocks scratched and finishing up all the little headlights & searchlights. Then it's the final stretch.

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, June 11, 2010 6:02 PM

Nice fix on the mantlet cover Michael, keeps getting better and better! Yes

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Posted by the doog on Friday, June 11, 2010 2:04 PM

Awesome work so far on this--a great looking build going on. Like everyone, I say that that light thing is brilliant!

Nice detailing, Mikael!

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Posted by mg.mikael on Friday, June 11, 2010 1:37 PM

Got some more work done that really pushes this build torwards completion. The mantlet has been fixed up, barrel attatched, and the rear hull(un-ditching log and all) have been finished up.

As for the rear hull portion, the fuel tanks are finally in place. The unditching log has been glued to it's proper supports and then to make it seem like it's tied down, I took the kit-supplied string(the one with the loose-ends) made two tie-downs for the log and now it's actually realistic  versus a log that would make you wonder how it's just sitting there. As for the the string, I first painted it with a mix of Testor's wood and Winsor & Newton yellow ochre. Then gave it a wash of burnt umber to bring out the detail.

 The tow cable has also been finished up, painted with a mix of Testor's steel and black, then washed with black. Signal lights were touched with a sharpie and then given a clear coat. Simple but effective. 

Now we come to the turret and barrel. After alot, and I mean alot of sanding the barrel is pretty much ready to go. The mantlet cover was another story.....as you can see in the first image below, the fit was non-existent.Surprise That wasn't due to Tamiya but me, since I added the turret bulge. That meant the mantlet no longer sat flush with the turret itself. So after cleaning up the mantlet detail, I glued it in position(polyurethane glue), but as is obvious their was a huge gap left over.

After letting the barrel set in place, I went to work. Putting the entire gap and at the same time molding the putty into fabric folds like on the kit piece. Essentially creating a mantlet out of a glob, yes sanding was necessary.Wink After puttying I started the tissue treatment(tissue pulled apart into one ply and soaked in a mix of water and glue), it helps add more detail, not to mention hide some of the imperfection of the putty work. Long live the mighty tissue.Big Smile

Finally the finished mantlet, all ready for painting.Smile After cutting off the excess tissue and adding more folds to the mantlet, I called it quits. The mantlet cover itself  was done, last but not least I then added a small rubberband(cut to fit, so in other words it's no longer a working rubberband) to the area where in the orginal piece a slight wraparound brace was for the cover.

Thanks for looking, all comments, questions, and suggestions welcome!

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Posted by mg.mikael on Monday, June 7, 2010 11:03 AM

scratchmod-  Glad you like the build and the light technique.Wink

Dre- Guess the extra time spent on the light is paying off. Thanks for the tip about the crazy glue and string.....definitely will try that out.Yes

wbill76- Thanks again, just wait to you see the IR serchlight I don't think it will dissapoint.

Killjoy- Looks like this light technique was a success.....now I just have to sell the tip to FSM.

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Posted by Dre on Monday, June 7, 2010 9:22 AM

Oh, those Tamiya string cables?  Super easy fix to them- if you have extra-thin CA around, that is.

Grab one in a clothes pin or similar clamp, hold it vertically and let the extra-thin CA run down the string length.  Any drippage can be wicked off with a paper towel.  Let dry thoroughly and you have a relatively stiff yet workable cable ready to paint.  

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Posted by Killjoy on Sunday, June 6, 2010 8:28 PM

Ok, I am totally stealing that trick for my next spotlight!  Very nice work on this kit!

Chris

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, June 6, 2010 7:36 PM

Ditto on the light, very nice effect/result. Yes

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Posted by Dre on Sunday, June 6, 2010 7:24 PM

Mg-  That light treatment is slick, dude.  It looks like natural shadowing in there.Yes

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, June 6, 2010 7:04 PM

I like how this T72 is coming along, very nice. The trick with the gift wrap paper for the light is totally awesome, but of course will only work with the outside lens. I might have to try that out sometime. Keep up the great work.

 

Rob

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