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Voroshilovets Tractor updated 16 Jan 11

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Voroshilovets Tractor updated 16 Jan 11
Posted by Bronto on Friday, November 19, 2010 7:07 PM

My newest project is Trumpeters's 1/35 Voroshilovets Tractor.  Comments welcome.

 

Molded on track tension details replaced:

 

Molded suspension springs replaced.

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, November 19, 2010 7:59 PM

Very cool. Are you going to get the gun to tow? Always thought was a cool set.

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Posted by Bronto on Friday, November 19, 2010 9:21 PM

Wasn't planning on adding it, but I can be convinced to add it if some of you wan to see it.

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, November 20, 2010 7:01 AM

From the moment I saw this in a film of a Soviet parade on the history channel I've wanted to do this project. I vote for the gun.

Marc  

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Posted by Njal Thorgeirsson on Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:19 AM

I've got one of these and the 203mm on my christmas list... I look forward to seeing your progress and opinions of the kit as a whole!

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:23 AM

Bronto,

Nice scratch build details, looking forward to more of this interesting kit and how you modify some of the parts.

The kit includes a tarped rear cover, do you plan on using it or something else. If memory serves correct the Soviets used this tractor in many variations such as anti aircraft platforms and other interesting conversions.

Jason

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:15 PM

WOW! I didn't know they released this? WAAY COOL!

I can't wait to see this one take shape!

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Posted by Bronto on Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:18 PM

Thank you all for the encouragement.  I had some time to work on this just about all day today.   I am not going to use the tarp on this one, because with re-building the cargo bed to the correct length, the kit tarp won't fit. 

Trumpeter molded the radiators with strange square depressions representing the details.  I replaced these with cut down truck radiators.

 

The kits cargo bed is the correct width, but too short by 3mm.  I made a new parts of the correct length.  Details still need to be added to the new parts.

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, November 21, 2010 5:23 AM

the doog

WOW! I didn't know they released this? WAAY COOL!

I can't wait to see this one take shape!

FSM reviewed it in January's issue, on the home page as a subscriber content only preview.

Jason

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Posted by zokissima on Monday, November 22, 2010 9:33 PM

Wow, fantastic work, I'll be watching this one with much interest, as there is a serious lack of any Soviet subjects on our forum Smile

What are you using as your primary references in correcting the kit parts?

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Posted by MECHTECH on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:01 AM

zokissima

What are you using as your primary references in correcting the kit parts?

DittoI'm with Zokissima on that. I googled and googled till I was blue and could not find anything on this model.

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Posted by Jester75 on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:04 PM

Looks to be a very cool build of an interesting subject, I remember when biffa did his. Scratchwork looks really good too although not sure it would be worth it to me over 3mm, what does that translate into in real life something like 105mm (10.5cm)?

Eric

 

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Posted by Bronto on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:30 PM

Sorry for the lack of progress over the last 2 days, doesn't look like I'll have much time to build until possibly Friday again.  For reference I am mainly using the book "Tyagatshi" by Jochen Vollert.

 

www.tankograd.com/cms/website.php?id=/en/index/publikationen/gazette/tyagatshi.htm

 

3mm may not seem like much of a discrepancy, but Trumpeter got the overall length and the cab length correct, so the short cargo body left a gap between the cab and the bed that was very noticable.

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Posted by Jester75 on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:44 PM

Got it, guess I assumed it was on the other end of the bad where they shorted it.

Eric

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:10 AM

Nice scratch work.

Marc  

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:35 AM

The whole machine looks good, good luck with your project, I'll be watching

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:38 AM

Nice work on that bed, I would probably have corrected it too, at 3mm short too; that's a noticeable difference. I wouldn't have bothered for 1mm, but 3mm is a scale boo-boo.

Good job on that grille too.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:48 AM

I love your insane scratch-building...

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Posted by saransk on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:55 AM

Is it just me or does  Trumpeter assume the driver is of very small stature.  It seems this is just the latest in any number of kits that forget that bodies take up space.

I have a couple of driver figures that I use (easily modified for uniform type) for when I want a crew member actually sitting in the driver's seat and none would fit in to this cab without modifying the seat.    Scale wise no person over 4 foot could sit on the unmodified seat, see through the windshield, and not hit the roof with their head.  The seat is about 1/4" too high to allow a scale drive figure to fit.  The firewall also seems very close without any real foot room.

Is there any pictures of what the interior actually looked like - could the seat and floorboard actually been "sunken" between the hull sides.

The kit seems to scale out OK and it certainly looks fine, but is it "too small."  There is no way the large crew figures for the B4 howitzer could sit in the cab.

Your build is great - Mine is going to have a wooden "house" on the back - there is a picture along with Zaloga's build article in Military Modeler? magazine.  Shows 2 with howitzers in East Prussia.

Mike

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Posted by hughes2682 on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:31 PM

Count me for following this build! Big Smile I just got caught up on this one.  I like how you've replace the springs.  Those look very nice.  Tow a gun... not tow a gun... do what you are inspired to do.  That having been said, it would look pretty darn cool hauling that beast.  

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Thursday, November 25, 2010 5:37 AM

saransk:

Is it just me or does  Trumpeter assume the driver is of very small stature.  It seems this is just the latest in any number of kits that forget that bodies take up space.

The main concern is for the exterior to be accurately scaled. When considering the thickness of the plastic making up a floor, roof and sides of a interior it soon adds up to lost interior space. To truly make a accurate interior dimension you would need to thin everything or replace with thin styrene stock, or for thin sheet metal even paper!

Another thing to consider is people on average were shorter years ago. Most full suits of armor from centuries ago were under 5 feet tall. These were the 'big, strong' soldiers as well.

Best strategy is to plan on interior figures in the initial stages and make extra room inside where you can. My current build took a lot of extra work to fit a interior figure in after construction was to the point where it would be counter productive to change the vehicle.

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Posted by Bronto on Thursday, November 25, 2010 3:48 PM

Thank you all for the continuing interest in my build.  I have searched for pictures of the interior, but haven't been able to locate any. What I am doing is going off is the cab having parts from the Zis-5 truck, so I am basing what I can off of pictures of that truck cab.  I should have some more progress pictures up this weekend, not had any time to do anything besides drive / load / unload all week.   Still undecided about the gun, but leaning toward including it since all opinions seem to be to go with it so far.

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Thursday, November 25, 2010 6:40 PM

Tracked vehicles (older construction bulldozers) have steering 2 hand clutches and two brake pedals, one of each for which ever way you need the machine to pivot. Engaging a steering clutch  disengages the drive power to that side, thus the machine will drift in said direction. Applying the steering brake as well will cause the machine to pivot on that track which is now locked (braking)

Hence I would dare to guess this Voroshilovets Tractor steers in the same manner and not with a steering wheel.

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Posted by Bronto on Friday, November 26, 2010 11:09 AM

Yes, I agree it has steering levers.  I was referring to the cab panels / doors when I said they were Zis-5 parts.

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Posted by Bronto on Saturday, November 27, 2010 3:15 PM

Ok, had some time to get the details added to the cargo bed, and to get the tracks fitted.  The idler mount in the kit is fixed, so I had to cut it off and reposition it to get the tracks to fit.  (My fault for actually trusting Trumpeter to have it in the right place.)

 

 

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Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, November 27, 2010 3:23 PM

The scratched bed looks very impressive.Yes

Eric

 

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, November 28, 2010 3:46 PM

Yes its dangerous to assume tracks will fit! Nothing worse than finding out when everything is painted and waiting for the tracks to slip on without difficulty.

I now expect difficulty placing tracks on and prepare well in advance for that step in construction.

Looking good Bronto, between your build & FSM's recent review I am sure Trumpeter will sell a few more of these kits! Also I am sure the AM will have a few conversions to follow...

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Posted by Njal Thorgeirsson on Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:15 PM

Looking amazing! I'm really looking forward to your next update! Yes

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Posted by KINGTHAD on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 4:31 PM

The bed is looking sweet.

 

Thad

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Posted by KINGTHAD on Thursday, December 2, 2010 2:11 PM

When are you going to get some Model Master Russian Green on her?

Thad

 

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