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DML Hetzer Early COMPLETE Pics p7 03-13-11

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DML Hetzer Early COMPLETE Pics p7 03-13-11
Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 4:49 PM

I had a good block of time off for the Christmas holidays and decided to do things a little differently as a "vacation" project. Rather than keep a step-by-step build log, I opted for a relatively simple project that I would just build and not have the pressures of posting, taking pics, etc. It was a nice refreshing change from the usual pace of things.

The chosen victim was one of DML's older kit offerings, kit #6030 Sdkfz 138/2 "Hetzer" Early Version. While designations such as "early", "mid", or "late" are nice handy things for modelers to refer to, it wasn't something actually applied to the vehicles themselves. If I had to get technical, the features of this kit are more of an "initial" version as it sports features seen only on the April-May 1944 production run of roughly 100 vehicles. To that end, I needed to make a few modifications to keep it all accurate, namely replace the kit barrel and tracks. I opted for Lion Roar's turned aluminum Pak 39 barrel since it had the muzzle brake threads needed for an "initial" version and also for Model Kasten SK-28 workable tracks since the kit provided static indys were the later "crimped horn" style.

The kit itself built up very well considering its relative age...just the usual seam lines and occasional ejector marks here and there to be dealt with. Aside from the barrel and tracks, I replaced the kit supplied solid grouser box with a perforated one by modifying left over parts from a Tamiya Marder III kit since the Hetzer box was much narrower. I also drilled out the MG34 in the remote roof mount, opened up the solid vision ports for the driver, and drilled out the face of the gunner's sighting periscope. I used the kit supplied PE (which is made from steel, not brass) and added the missing wiring conduit for the Notek light using 0.5mm solder bent to shape and a short piece of styrene rod for the mount in the hull side.

Last but not least I added a Griffon PE clamp for the long crow bar on the right hull side and also added some DML half wing-nuts to the jack clamps from the spares bin.

The road wheels, sprockets, and idlers are dry-fit to allow for the tracks to be test fitted. 95 links per side were needed to get the necessary tension/sag although the schurzen hides almost all of that.

This one's going to be painted in a simple plain dunkelgelb scheme.

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Posted by BeltFed on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:13 PM

Bill- glad to see your back at the bench again. These days it just seems to get harder and harder to finish a build. I keep cracking one open saying "this one will get me back on my feet," and 3/4 of the build gets done and whatever momentum i had before comes screeching to a halt. Repeat cycle. glad to see you havent gotten looped in the same trap as me.

Hey, since you're looking for something new, why not give the "new" color modulation technique a try? It might be a nice change in pace! plus, id love to see how you would approach it Cool

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 7:12 PM

Didn't take long to hop back onto the saddle after that Jagdpanther. Sweet. I did hear there's a gap under the mantlet that perhaps should not be there. Can't recall where I read it, but I owned this kit years ago and dumped it for the newer Tamiya version.

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 Eric 

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 7:51 PM

Great to see you back in form, Bill. The Armor forum just doesn't seem like "home" without a "wbill76" thread up on the front page! Smile

Man, you're moving quick on this one! This seems to be a popular model up on the forums as of late!

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 8:03 PM

BeltFed, I'm still holding to the "only one build at a time" rule and that helps avoid the stalling out and starting another build loop at least. While "modulation" is the current rage, it's not really something that appeals to me as a technique/finish. Don't get me wrong, some of the proponents of it do some fantastic stuff with it, but I haven't bought into it myself even though I've played around with it a couple of times to give it a whirl. Wink

Eric, the mantlet question deals with the fact that some of the "early" Hetzers had an additional extension welded onto the lower half of the mantlet to offer better protection but that's not true of the first batches, so I didn't add that to mine. DML's kit is still the only game in town for a true "initial" Hetzer in terms of the hatch arrangement, the tow bar across the full rear hull, etc. while the Tamiya kit represents a little further along in the production cycle. The DML kit is more of a hybrid in other ways as it has later production run features when it comes to the barrel and the grouser box for example so not a perfect representation either without some "help". Wink

Thanks Karl! Hetzers do seem to be popular lately, that's true! This particular kit is fairly light on the parts count, only about 340 parts including the ~200 for the tracks, so it goes together pretty quick on the construction side of the house and has no major fit issues to contend with either, making it a pretty enjoyable/fast project.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 8:42 PM

Aw yeah!!! Wild Bill's back!!!! :wiggle:

Well, y'all know the drill:

:popcorn:

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:25 PM

Yes, Bill is alive and kicking! Yes  I had Tamiya Hetzer kit on my Christmas wish list and I didn't get it.  But I happen to have more than enough "Christmas" money to buy few kits.  So I think it will be safe for me to go and buy one soon... Stick out tongue  Good to have you back!

Andy

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Posted by redleg12 on Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:36 AM

Bill - Glad to see some mojo. I am sure it felt good to "just model". Use the KISS principal and enjoy. No matter what ideas fall over the transum here, do what makes Bill happy Wink 

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, December 30, 2010 7:10 AM

So, you can't keep a good man down isn't just an old saying after all. Seems weird see the 1st pics already at that stage.  can you break a piece off and put it on the wood base?  Just so there will be some balance in the universe once again.

Marc  

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Thursday, December 30, 2010 7:22 AM

That seems to be the correct version of the 1/72 scale Hetzer I am working on (hopefully finish up before 2011) My Italeri 'Chwat' is the wrong version (later vrs initial) for the captured Warsaw uprising unit yet I chose to soldier on.

Glad to see you back at it Bill.

 

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Posted by iraqiwildman on Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:48 AM

Where do you get all these goodies (PE, barrels) to add to your kits?

Tim Wilding

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, December 30, 2010 1:44 PM

Boyd, Andy, Mike, thanks as always for the support!

BeerMarc, I admit it does feel a little strange for the podium not to have made an appearance...if it's any consolation, the barrel/mantlet did break off once before and had to be re-secured but I didn't think to take a pic. Wink

SuppressionFire, sounds like a neat project, can't wait to see you with it finished! Yes

Wildman, it all depends...there are various online suppliers that stock after-market stuff like PE, barrels, tracks etc. I have different "preferred" vendors that I shop with such as LuckyModel, RZM Imports, GreatModels, Sprue Brothers, etc. Some carry wider selections or offer better prices than others, so it's a case of shopping around until you find one you're comfortable with.

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Posted by panzer88 on Thursday, December 30, 2010 7:32 PM

Glad to see you got out of that bad funk. Like everyone said already, it's not the same without a wbill wip.Big Smile

     

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, December 30, 2010 7:58 PM

Thanks panzer88, sadly my vacation is almost at an end but should be able to get some more time in between now and Monday depending on how things shake out. Happy New Year! Beer

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Posted by hughes2682 on Friday, December 31, 2010 12:53 AM

Bill,

It's good to see you back.  Enjoy the vacation time that you do have. Happy New Year.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, December 31, 2010 1:12 PM

Cheers Dave and Happy New Year to you as well! Beer

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, December 31, 2010 1:30 PM

happy New Year Bill. Hope to see this guy finished soon.

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 Eric 

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, December 31, 2010 3:30 PM

Thanks Eric, Happy New Year to you as well! Beer

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, January 8, 2011 5:22 PM

Got some time in with the airbrush today on this little guy. Applied a primer coat of MM enamel Italian Dark Brown to kick things off.

I decided I was going to finish this one in a plain dunkelgelb scheme complete with the barrel still in the original heat-resistant lacquer coating as seen in the well-known photo of Hetzers being demonstrated to Hitler early in 1944. To replicate the lacquer finish, I used MM enamel Gunmetal and applied that over the primer.

I masked the gun barrel with some blue painter's tape and then applied the dunkelgelb finish using a 50-50 mix of MM enamel Light Gray/Panzer Dunkelgelb. This mix does two things, it alleviates the too-greenish appearance of the straight MM dunkelgelb color and also lightens the base coat in preparation for the weathering to come in later stages.

The road wheels, sprockets, and idlers also got some attention. They were primered just like the hull and then MM enamel Gunmetal sprayed on the rubber portions. Using a draftsman's circle template, I masked the hubs and airbrushed those with the same 50-50 mix as used on the hull. I also took advantage of the removable nature of the remote roof-top MG and painted it off the hull to make it easier to cover both areas adequately.

Now it's on to the detail painting and other miscellaneous stuff to get this one closer to completion.

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, January 8, 2011 6:25 PM

Loving it Bill. Yes

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 Eric 

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Posted by biffa on Saturday, January 8, 2011 8:07 PM

Looking good Bill i dig the grey barrel really gives that little different aspect glad to see you breaking through the funk Smile

Ron g.
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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, January 8, 2011 8:30 PM

Thanks Eric!

Ron, glad you like it. I admit I was a little hesitant to do the barrel in the lacquer finish...it's become one of those fads/fashionable things to do (kind of like the trend to always some piece or other of gear in primer red) it seems but it fit with the overall scheme so I decided to give it a whirl. Wink

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Posted by biffa on Saturday, January 8, 2011 9:24 PM

i know what you mean Bill but im definatly guilty of it myself heh im a sucker for fads and cool factors yours falls into the accurate category for sure though so no worries there Smile

Ron g.
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Posted by redleg12 on Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:35 PM

Nothing wrong with a plain single color (even better if it was OD)Wink   Nice work...hope it feels good to smell some paint vapor!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by bbrowniii on Saturday, January 8, 2011 10:41 PM

:popcorn:

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, January 8, 2011 11:37 PM

Bill,

AHHHH! Memories! Embarrassed A Hetzer in dunklegelb!

Makes me want to get out my ol' Badger and build another one! Stick out tongue

Looking fine as usual!

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, January 9, 2011 8:22 AM

Your Hetzer is shaping up nicely.  Like the all Dunkel color on this one, glade you went with the lacquer barrel.  What are your colors for your mix?  MMPanzer Dunkelgelb #2095 and Light Gray #FS 36495, would like to try that mix out.  Thanks for the info and keep the updates coming. Yes

Rob

Rob

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, January 9, 2011 12:10 PM

Ron, don't get me wrong, I like the artistic approach of adding some color here and there as much as the nex guy. Wink This one in particular provided an accurate way to add a little touch of difference.

Mike, probably as close as I will get to OD anytime soon that's for sure! Big Smile It did feel good to get the paint work done on this one so it can progress. Thanks as always for the support/encouragement.

BeerBoyd, mmmmm, popcorn!

Karl, the Hetzer seems to have had a popular resurgence lately here on the forums, I say go for it if you're so inclined! Thanks for the comments.

Rob, thanks as well! The colors used are exactly the ones you listed. Testors MM assigns #1732 to the Light Gray in addition to the FS36495 code if that helps. Please note that these are the enamel codes, not sure if they apply the same ones to their acrylic lines. Wink

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, January 9, 2011 2:06 PM

Hey Bill, happy new year buddy. It's great that you got your mojo back, it wasn't the same without a WBill blog.

The little guy is looking good. You do have a thing for the 38t series.

Rob

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Posted by ozzman on Sunday, January 9, 2011 7:29 PM

I have always like the hetzer it is a cool tank destroyer. nice

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