Yes, another Tiger......

Thanks gents. I think I feel a T34 coming on. I have two that are started, one a later T34-85 and a later T34-76. Not sure which looks more fun at the moment, think I'll find a good example to work from, see what happens. They're both old Tamiya kits with Friuls, and the -85 has the Maquette turret.

Thanks for all the input on this one, it helped!

Very nice finsh, like what you have done with this.

outstanding finish,Bravo

Thanks, all. I'm pretty pleased with it myself.......

These pics are as close to finished as I think I've ever posted, all I'm lacking is a commander fig, and once I decide the setting, a base. I went with extra tracks and no foliage wire in the turret since I wanted to leave some unbroken areas on the turret, mainly to give an idea of the immenseness of this thing. Exhaust stacks and extra tracks are finished with pigments and I've added a black pinwash to hatch edges and the access plates on the rear hull area. A few rust streaks were added on the hull cable fittings and some staining at the fuel vent pipes.  Some minor rust was also added under and below the spare tracks on the turret. I've decided to leave it with no markings, thnaks for all the input there also.

And so, without further ado, the pics:

Now maybe a beat-up T34 to pose with it is in in order......

RBaer

I am really liking the look of this bad boy......   Excellent!!

Bill

I think no markings would be nice for this. Sort of gives it that rushed out of the factory look.

Definitely like what you've done with it. With or without markings!

Andy, Bish, thanks. I definitely wanted a late-war look. Still undecided on markings, leaning towards none right now. I want to see what I think after I have the spare tracks mounted and the foliage-securing wire on the turret sides first.

RB- Great idea... I have seen tanks with less or no markings at the end of war.  Thanks for posting!

Plenty of Paper Panzer kits out there to choise from. Can do what ever you like with those. I have a few ideas for when i get round to mine.

Don't know what to tell you. I added them for the color if nothing else. something to break it up. 

Archer transfers are the way to go if you have them, especially at the point you're at.

Thanks, Bish. It was a lot of fun, learned a lot of stuff that I will continue to use. I will have to do a purely fictional tank now, maybe dk yellow and green only, since I like the look so much. The subject in AFV Modeller had a neat look to it, and my lack of reference materials wouldn't be an issue.

Conjectural or not, this looks great. And i like the weathering as well.

tigerman

RBaer:

Andy, I kind of skipped over the decals since I had no idea what I wanted to use. Also, the references I used had minimal or no markings, so I went with it. Turret numbers or "crosses" are not out of the question, however. They could still be blended in to the finish at this stage, I think. I might look for dry transfers, since they are a little easier to work with, IMO.

 

I almost skipped the markings on my Jagdtiger, because i liked the look without them. However, to add a little splash, I went in and added them anyways. Probably more accurate in the end too, though my references are lacking for this vehicle.

Yeah, I'm stil undecided here. I'd like to use simple balkenkreuz (looked that up.....) or numbers but don't want to mess with gloss, decals and then flat at this stage, and can't really stencil and spray some since I don't have an airbrush, so they have to be dry transfers or hand-painted. Hmmm.....

As far as unit markings, I don't have the references to do them with any degree of accuracy. I do have a couple of "annelise" name decals from the old Tamiya kit that might work somewhere, just for visual interest. Suggestions?

RBaer

Andy, I kind of skipped over the decals since I had no idea what I wanted to use. Also, the references I used had minimal or no markings, so I went with it. Turret numbers or "crosses" are not out of the question, however. They could still be blended in to the finish at this stage, I think. I might look for dry transfers, since they are a little easier to work with, IMO.

I almost skipped the markings on my Jagdtiger, because i liked the look without them. However, to add a little splash, I went in and added them anyways. Probably more accurate in the end too, though my references are lacking for this vehicle.

Andy, I kind of skipped over the decals since I had no idea what I wanted to use. Also, the references I used had minimal or no markings, so I went with it. Turret numbers or "crosses" are not out of the question, however. They could still be blended in to the finish at this stage, I think. I might look for dry transfers, since they are a little easier to work with, IMO.

TM, thanks, I've started trying to show things on display bases and have been adding what I feel is appropriate weathering to running gear and lower hulls. Something relatively new for me, and another dimension of the finishing process that I am enjoying. I wanted to portray an in-action tank, but not something in complete disrepair.

That came out looking nice. I like the heavier weathering of the lower hull.

Catching up here... your KT is looking great!   Only thing I am not seeing decals unless I missed your earlier comment aboyt not using the decals.

Honestly guys, I'm going off of modeling articles, so I really have no idea if it's factual or not.  I do have more pics, and all I can really say at this point is that I should have used a lighter brown. The Vallejo paint is hugely affected by alcohol, MM not so much. This made for some irregularities in the final look, but who's to say what the crew used in the field (insert sound of worm can opening here). Anyway, I think it's time to add the spare tracks on the turret hangers and a commander, who will be the guy that comes in the Tamiya Tiger (P) kit, unless I find a guy on sale in the current Squadron flyer........

I plan to add smoe fuel staining at the vents, and if I had any earthly idea where the fillers were, in that area as well. I also have a hull MG barrel ready to go in.

With a heavy wash of Tamiya dk yellow and a bit of MM brown:

And the model as it is now, with a dusting on the running gear, lower hull and tracks, made from pastel chalk, MM brown and alcohol, to unify everything.

My references and "inspiration" came from Armor (Panzer Aces) issues 8 and 3 and AFV Modeller #52. Two of the subjects are conjectural, but very nice models nonetheless. I have been enjoying this build hugely, and realize there are factual errors, but the model is a great contrast to the Shermans and Pershings in the case. Speaking of contrast, I also realize the yellow is probably too bright, but I like the look anyway. The Tiger (P) I did a short while ago is much darker overall, probably too dark, with much less contrast.

But, such is modeling! Thanks for following, all the feedback has been much appreciated!

It's looking good to me.

Heck it was lookin' good before the extra colors were added anyhow..... I liked that.

I didn't think it was clear cut. I think the osprey book is the only source i has read that in. If just going off colour pics, i guess it would be near impossable to tell between primer and the red brown.

So as a model builder, you are safe to choise either way.

Looks like it's progressing nicely, the three-tone gives it more life IMHO, looking forward to seeing where you take it.

As for the question on primer inclusion in the late-war schemes, that's a hotly debated topic depending on how one interprets the original orders to the factory and which translation you are reading from in the reference materials. Without going into all the gory details, the general consensus is that the orders were revised as a paint-saving measure and what is debated is whether or not the paint-saving measure was inclusion of the primer in the final camo pattern or whether the three-tone scheme was supposed to be applied directly over the primer (meaning no solid vehicle color coat of DY or OG first and then pattern added over that). Personally I lean towards the latter as the Red Oxide primer color doesn't strike me as an effective color for a camo scheme given it's bright-red (Tabasco) color characteristics but others disagree. We may never know for sure 100% which group's interpretation is truly correct.

To be honest i am a bit confused about this period of the war. I just know i have read, think is was the osprey New vanguard on the Tiger II, that tanks left the factory in primer red, they then painted the yellow and green over that. But i am not 100% sure thats right. I think for my BoB Tiger II i just went with the usual 3 colour scheme.

I really like the look of this. Is this based on anything you have seen, or is it just your own scheme. Either way i like it alot.

Very interesting. Can't wait to see the final product.

I'm fired up myself........

Here's a couple of pics after the scrub, clear flat applied. Next will be another filter of Tamiya dk yellow........

Sorry about the focus, got in a hurry I guess.........

BTW, I've done a couple of hard-edged camo jobs with a brush, just have to be patient and use thin paint. I want a very heavily worn look on this one, hence the heavy scrubbing. The scrubbed areas will also be chipped after the filter.

I'll be off the internet  for a couple of days, back with more pics then. Thanks for checking in, as always.

Brush painted camo. Very interesting. I'm interested in seeing how it looks after you scrub it off.

Color!

Vallejo #2030, olivegrun, and MM acryl panzer schokladnbraun (!) applied in two coats, with a brush. Drying now, to be scrubbed nearly off as soon as it's good and dry. Looks pretty scary now......

Green first and second coats:

 And with the brown, first and second coat:

Really scary at this point, but most of the color is coming off........

Bish, I used the red primer because I had it, and because the real thing was in red primer, mainly. I was unsure about what final colors it would be in. The two models I've used as reference are both dark yellow and brown, don't know if it's supposed to be primer or not. Personaly, I like the green and dark  yellow look, but I think it's conjectural. I've got some bench time the next couple of days, we'll see what happens.........

I rather like that colour as well, this is coming along nicely. As for late war schemes, i am not entirely sure, but i think that hard edged scheme was primer red rather than the usual red brown, at least that what quoted in a few refenrance book i have. But i am not 100% on this period as it can be a bit confuseing. I think wbill will know better.

I assumed thats what you were doing when you painted the red primer.