Barkmann Panther D 401.. any info?

KT 332, The second pattern, with the vertical grooves and the cross-hatching is the one on the SS Pz. Reg.2 Panthers at Normandy. They call it the "vertically rippled" pattern on Panzer Diesel.

QUOTE: Originally posted by leopold The photos that I have looked at so far of Panthers in SS Panzer Regiment 2 in Normandy show them with the vertically grooved, cross-hatched pattern of zimmerit.

leopold wat is the cross-hatched pattern..? you mean this;
http://www.panzerdiesel.com/data/e/27p5_karo.html?PHPSESSID=5a2ffdc318bb5a0dbb6e81d78ffebf57

or
http://www.panzerdiesel.com/data/e/27p5_vriffel.html?PHPSESSID=5a2ffdc318bb5a0dbb6e81d78ffebf57

QUOTE: Originally posted by spector822002 Shermanfreak:Whats that burning next to that panther ? Hmmmmm could that be a ronson?

spector more pics on the front of his tank pleasee..

This is supposedly his tank here !?

Shermanfreak:Whats that burning next to that panther ? Hmmmmm could that be a ronson?

Pentland"s artwork shows 424 with the type 4 exhausts, with the 2 air intake pipes mounted on the left side exhaust, this is a late ausf A modification. We are of course assuming Mr. Pentland did his home work.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain Caveman he would have had a Panther Ausf A late with Zimmerit number 424 at Normandy and in the Ardennes he had a Pather Ausf G number 401

Caveman are u sure that the panthers he use the late model and not the early??
It looks like the rear side of panther seems to be early production for me... suggesting if im wrong..

As for Barkmann's Ausf G, #401, I have a lot of text about the battle at Manhay on Dec. 24th, but no description of his vehicle so far. Here again, I'm going to take the easy way out and drop in David Pentland's artwork of the event. I'll look some more when I have time.




I have a full-size print of his Counterattack at Villers Bocage, a striking rendition of Wittmann's historic rampage through this Norman village.

The photos that I have looked at so far of Panthers in SS Panzer Regiment 2 in Normandy show them with the vertically grooved, cross-hatched pattern of zimmerit.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain Caveman he would have had a Panther Ausf A late with Zimmerit number 424 at Normandy and in the Ardennes he had a Pather Ausf G number 401

re his ardennes vehicle, do you have any details re colour and type of numerals, camo scheme (i presume no zimm?), and whether it was a steel wheeler or not?
your help would be really appreciated.
many thanks,
nick

By the way, Barkmann's Corner is a great scenario to play on PlayStation's Panzer Front bis. Kind of gives you an idea of what frantic pressure he and his crew must have felt during that battle. I nearly fall out of my chair playing it!

he would have had a Panther Ausf A late with Zimmerit number 424 at Normandy and in the Ardennes he had a Pather Ausf G number 401

QUOTE: Originally posted by leopold In the book; Panzers in Normandy Then and Now, there is an excellent recount of SS Unterscharfuhrer Ernst Barkmann's exploits near St. Lo on June 27th, 1944, commonly refered to as the Battle of Barkmann's Corner. During this engagement, Barkmann and his crew single-handedly knocked out 9 Shermans, all the while being shot at, strafed and bombed by fighter-bombers, having a track torn off, a hull weld ripped open, a bent drive sprocket and his driver wounded. And he still managed to back over a hill and escape. The tank he used during this battle was a Ausf A with the tactical number 424. The only color image I can find at the moment is this small image of David Pentland's painting, Barkmann's Corner:

oow ok... so its not the 401 that i mentioned, its different panther.. i can't see clearly on the tanks whether got zimmerit in his tank or not.. by the way thnx for pic leopold.. u still got any pics for reference..
i'll buy panther A from DML tomorrow then & not D... here ( in singpore ) DML kits cost very cheap only S$24.. big sale here.. I must do this tank however (must complete german ace's tank) ..

In the book; Panzers in Normandy Then and Now, there is an excellent recount of SS Unterscharfuhrer Ernst Barkmann's exploits near St. Lo on June 27th, 1944, commonly refered to as the Battle of Barkmann's Corner. During this engagement, Barkmann and his crew single-handedly knocked out 9 Shermans, all the while being shot at, strafed and bombed by fighter-bombers, having a track torn off, a hull weld ripped open, a bent drive sprocket and his driver wounded. And he still managed to back over a hill and escape. The tank he used during this battle was a Ausf A with the tactical number 424. The only color image I can find at the moment is this small image of David Pentland's painting, Barkmann's Corner: