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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 4, 2011 8:30 AM

Psstoff & Bill: Thanks guys, I didn't think the running gear looked Japanese but wasn't sure what it was.

 

This would be really crazy to scratchbuild, I'd think if you brought it to a show you'd have to bring your references or the judges would think you just made it up.

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Posted by telsono on Monday, October 3, 2011 5:51 PM

Did the Japanes buy any Vickers 6 tonners? The Russian T-26 and Polish 7TP are based upon that vehicle and had the Carden-Lloyd suspension. Jadar sells the suspension as a resin aftermarket set. The tracks look alot like those on the 7TP. The track was also common with the T-26.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 3, 2011 2:40 PM

wbill76

It's got a Carden-Lloyd style suspension, that's where you would have to start. Similar suspensions seen on Russian T26 and Italian Carro-Amato tanks as the Carden-Lloyd design was sold/licensed to several different countries between the wars. Everything else (hull included) would probably have to be scratch-built. 

Thanks...I think I could scratch most of it---just wan't sure what suspension that was...sorta loses some of the appeal with it not being a Japanese one... 

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Posted by Londo on Monday, October 3, 2011 1:59 PM

I think I can live without on more expensive box...

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, October 3, 2011 1:02 PM

It's got a Carden-Lloyd style suspension, that's where you would have to start. Similar suspensions seen on Russian T26 and Italian Carro-Amato tanks as the Carden-Lloyd design was sold/licensed to several different countries between the wars. Everything else (hull included) would probably have to be scratch-built. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 3, 2011 7:25 AM

psstoff995's lbro

Awesome!  Thanks...

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Saturday, October 1, 2011 11:24 AM
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Posted by dood_dood on Friday, September 30, 2011 1:53 PM

I'm pumped about this -  I love the weird ones!

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 30, 2011 9:19 AM

Manstein's revenge

 Gamera:

Well, I'm not quite as cheap as von Hammer but I'm close. Still I went ahead and pre-ordered one since it is limited run and I'm slightly baka about anything Japanese. 

I'll see about posting photos of the pontoon parts if anyone wants to see them.

Manny: So is this not the tank you're refering to? When I posted it before you didn't give me a yea or nay:

http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab85/Tempest977/Etc/DSCN0050.jpg

 

Any MOJO out there who can ID the basis for this "Swiiss-army-knife" of a tank will be greatly appreciated...

The photo is from Gordon L. Rottman & Akira Takizawa's 'World War II Japanese Tank Tactics from Osprey's Elite series.

The caption reads: 'Another capture from 2nd Tank Div on Luzon: an "SS" armored engineer vehicle of the division's Engineer Unit. The forks on the bow are for plowing up AT mines, and could also tear breaches in barbed wire and dense vegetation.'

Not sure where I got the idea it was a one of a kind vehicle- it's not mentioned in the caption. No mention of the vehicle is in the text and I've never seen it anywhere else including the large Polish book I have on the subject of Japanese AFVs.

Not sure what the running gear is on the tank, thought it was a Type 89 at first but it's not. Sorry, I didn't bring my other books with me to work and the power supply on my home computer went out so I'll have to post next Monday. The Japanese did import varoius foreign tanks including British and French before the war so it might not even be based on a Japanese hull.

 

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Posted by IBuild148 on Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:58 PM

Doesn't float my boat!

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:44 PM

TheWildChild

do you remember if the gun was on two railroad tracks or one? if it was over $1000 and with a box that huge it had to be the dora.

I don't recall the photo on the kit box but the box for the extra cost aluminum barrel was roughly 1 foot long, the box for the aluminum breech was almost 1 foot long, so I presume the kit was the Dora railway gun in 1/35th scale.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:22 PM

Gamera

Well, I'm not quite as cheap as von Hammer but I'm close. Still I went ahead and pre-ordered one since it is limited run and I'm slightly baka about anything Japanese. 

I'll see about posting photos of the pontoon parts if anyone wants to see them.

Manny: So is this not the tank you're refering to? When I posted it before you didn't give me a yea or nay:

http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab85/Tempest977/Etc/DSCN0050.jpg

Any MOJO out there who can ID the basis for this "Swiiss-army-knife" of a tank will be greatly appreciated...

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Posted by TheWildChild on Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:38 PM

do you remember if the gun was on two railroad tracks or one? if it was over $1000 and with a box that huge it had to be the dora.

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:33 PM

TheWildChild

 

 Sprue-ce Goose:

 

 

 Cadet Chuck:

That's almost as weird as the gigantic German railroad cannon I saw on the cover of Squadron's catalog a few months back!  Not for me, definitely.

 

 

I saw that 1/35th scale kit in it's huge box at my LHS last weekend for $1,050  with separate aluminum barrel and breech available at extra cost.

Don't know the price of the aluminum detail parts or whether they require seam removal.....

 

 

is that a Dora railroad gun or just a leopold railroad gun? if its the Dora in 1/35 that would be enormous!

I don't recall the specific gun, only that the box was roughly 15 inches deep by at least  3 feet long by roughly 20 inches high and dwarfed every other model kit box in the store.

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Posted by TheWildChild on Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:26 PM

Sprue-ce Goose

 Cadet Chuck:

That's almost as weird as the gigantic German railroad cannon I saw on the cover of Squadron's catalog a few months back!  Not for me, definitely.

 

I saw that 1/35th scale kit in it's huge box at my LHS last weekend for $1,050  with separate aluminum barrel and breech available at extra cost.

Don't know the price of the aluminum detail parts or whether they require seam removal.....

is that a Dora railroad gun or just a leopold railroad gun? if its the Dora in 1/35 that would be enormous!

1/35 XM77  "Sledgehammer", 1964 Chevy Impala Derby Car

Whats next? Aircraft for Ground Attack Group Build

"I dont just tackle to make a play, I tackle to break your will." -Ray Lewis

"In the end, we're all just chalk lines on the concrete, drawn only to be washed away"- 5 Finger Death Punch

"Ahh, my old enemy.......STAIRS"- Po, Kung Fu Panda

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:51 PM

I'll see if I can hunt up the reference book, I don't remember the name now. I do remember this was the only photo of the vehicle. The caption called it a one of a kind engineering vehicle used for clearing mines and brush. I'll try to get more information posted tomorrow.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:26 PM

Gamera

Well, I'm not quite as cheap as von Hammer but I'm close. Still I went ahead and pre-ordered one since it is limited run and I'm slightly baka about anything Japanese. 

I'll see about posting photos of the pontoon parts if anyone wants to see them.

Manny: So is this not the tank you're refering to? When I posted it before you didn't give me a yea or nay:

http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab85/Tempest977/Etc/DSCN0050.jpg

Oh---wow.  I do think that is it.  Sorry, I didn't see your last posting of this.  Any more pics of this?  What does the reference caption call it???

That could be a cool project... 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:14 AM

Well, I'm not quite as cheap as von Hammer but I'm close. Still I went ahead and pre-ordered one since it is limited run and I'm slightly baka about anything Japanese. 

I'll see about posting photos of the pontoon parts if anyone wants to see them.

Manny: So is this not the tank you're refering to? When I posted it before you didn't give me a yea or nay:

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:58 PM

I think I was the first to ask if constructors kit came with the pontoons.

So yes. I want to float its pontoons (or something Manny would say) Stick out tongue

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:05 PM

Yes, I want one. Hopefully around the holidays.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:51 PM

Manstein's revenge

I remember when I first joined the Forum there was a pic of a Japanese tank that was modified to be an engineering tank---I wanted to build that so bad but didn't save the pic...looked like the basis for it may have been this type...looked like a swiss army knife tank!

Any help on this pic would be greatly appreciated...

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:17 AM

the doog

Not for me...

Too angular and.....weird!

Is it a tank? Is it a boat??? It's so angular & weird I'd actually probably give it a "yes", if I built armour. (I see $70 below?.... I doubt I'd throw that much $ at a kit to be honest)

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Posted by jetmodeler on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:01 AM

No...

 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:31 AM

At first look ..................no .

But its probably one of those ugly ducklings that will grow on me . So maybe .................yes .

But i dont know .

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 26, 2011 9:02 PM

Rob Gronovius

 Mansteins revenge:

 Rob Gronovius:

It was the topic of conversation a couple of weeks ago during Constructor's build photos:
/forums/t/141143.aspx

I placed a pre-order when I posted the link.

 

Yep, but this one has floats!!! I remember when I first joined the Forum there was a pic of a Japanese tank that was modified to be an engineering tank---I wanted to build that so bad but didn't save the pic...looked like the basis for it may have been this type...looked like a swiss army knife tank!

 

Yes, I know.

I know you know...

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Posted by Robert92562 on Monday, September 26, 2011 8:29 PM

no

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Posted by BaBill212 on Monday, September 26, 2011 8:01 PM

$70-ish would be a bit too much for me Manny.....      not that it doesn't look unique or well made.      The tag and the subject just wouldn't float-my-boat (so to speak)....   but, that is just my opinion

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, September 26, 2011 7:57 PM

Definately YES.

Anything new or more unique is fine with me.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, September 26, 2011 6:49 PM

Mansteins revenge

 Rob Gronovius:

It was the topic of conversation a couple of weeks ago during Constructor's build photos:
/forums/t/141143.aspx

I placed a pre-order when I posted the link.

 

Yep, but this one has floats!!! I remember when I first joined the Forum there was a pic of a Japanese tank that was modified to be an engineering tank---I wanted to build that so bad but didn't save the pic...looked like the basis for it may have been this type...looked like a swiss army knife tank!

Yes, I know. Check the first post of the second page, one made by me. I posted the link and the CyberHobby poster of the one with floats and I pre-ordered it (Sept 16th).

The post devolved into a discussion about the cost of the kit ($70+), but I figured it was well within the range of what I paid for when I first discovered Fine Molds IJA tank kits. And probably a better kit.

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