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Looking for a Zimmerit kit for a jagd panther OR alternatives

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Posted by CBennett on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 3:56 PM

Men no biggie on Hobby Depot I guess in or out of business found the same thing elsewhere for same price so unless the local place can "special order" it I will just get it there thanks.

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Posted by CBennett on Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:26 PM

is this place even in business anymore?? Tried to order the kit and says they cant take paypal then I tried to email them and the email came back returned....anyplace else have a Zimmerit kit Cavalier or Atak for the same $$$

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Posted by CBennett on Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:36 PM

My kid wants me to put "battle damage" on it like it had been in battle so id seen a lot of it scraped off and such on various tanks and now looking at a few with some 'battle damage" lol.

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Posted by kettenkopf on Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:00 AM

One more thing, remember Zimmerit was never perfect, and got geat to hell in combat use.

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Posted by kettenkopf on Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:55 AM

I'm currently building the old DML Jagdpanther Early Version (picked up for $20 from a friend).  A word of advice, find as many reference pictures as you can.  I found several styles of Zimmerit, as well of pictures of vehicles without, I just don't remember the sites.  I went with a variation of the waffle pattern as shown in the pictures, with alternating horizontal and vertical grooves in each square.  A lot of work, but an interesting finish.  I used Squadron Green Putty thinned with Testor's Liquid Cement (in black bottle with metal applicator).    For a patterning tool, a wooden coffee stirrer cut to approx 4mm width with a chisel edge was my weapon of choice.  Work in small (bout 1" square) areas at a time. A lot of work and time, but worth it in the end.  By the way this was my first attempt at Zimmerit.  Good luck and keep trying new things.

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Posted by CBennett on Friday, December 30, 2011 3:24 PM

I think I finally found a reasonable version that will be around $25 to my door and its for the Dragon kit. that said if for some reason the didnt have it I will remember the Mil put stuff i found a MIG tool that makes the "pattern" for $8

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Posted by CBennett on Friday, December 30, 2011 3:22 PM

Thanks..I also see they make a "generic" version that you can "cut to fit"..so if I cant find one thats also a option. but yes $17 is fine it was just the one id seen was like $20+15 shipping lol....that just seemed a but out of sorts to me.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 30, 2011 1:22 PM

I am not sure if you got it from a private seller, but you deffinatly got a bargain. If you buy the Zimm for $30, the combined price is still less that the kit alone in most places. It's £46 over here, about $70.

As for doing your own, Miliput white is a good option. And it is easy to to. And if you do small areas at a time, if you mess it up you can remove it befor eit hardens and start again. I find the hardest part is getting it on thin enough.

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Posted by detailfreak on Friday, December 30, 2011 11:31 AM

                                     Depot Hobbies 17.95 plus shipping. Still under what your Jag retails for. Just make sure the set ,if you buy ,is for the Dragon as I used one for the Tamiya and it is slightly different.

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Posted by CBennett on Friday, December 30, 2011 10:46 AM

Yeah I saw them but I was balking a bit at adding $30 to the kit(which i bought for $20 on Ebay)....Im just one of those people that have a hard time paying more for a applique type aesthetic thing than I did the entire model :) . I believe the ones on Ebay were around $20 which is fine id pay that...but I think the shipping was almost or around $15 ......and thats a LOT to ship what can probably be shipped for $5 or less.

Ok on the "do it yourself" route what are guys using to do it yourself...I dont really want to go this route as a first build in over 20 years but im also not gonna pay $30 for a Zim kit either..I dont plan on doing many $50 +(base cost) models lol.

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Posted by detailfreak on Friday, December 30, 2011 7:39 AM

                                 Theres two ATAK sets on the evil-bay,didnt see any cavalier sets.Or EDUARD.

 

                                                            Greg"Detailfreak"RowleyYes

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Posted by JohanT on Friday, December 30, 2011 5:03 AM

I am in the same position CBennett, I have Dragons # 6458 in the stash and its been sitting there grining at me for two years now asking me to make up my mind on the Zimmerit.

I recon that if I could get my hands on a mantlet with the bolt detail that would at least save me from blushing to badly Embarrassed

Anyway, here is the real deal if you decide to go for it, this is from the Imperial War museum in London.



Very Best Regards
Johan 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, December 30, 2011 2:37 AM

Dragon also do a late model kit which is also very nice, and a smart kit.

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/DN6393

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Posted by satch_ip on Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:32 PM

I've got the Jagd Tiger kit 6051.  I bought it at an show and it came with aftermarket Zim and a barrel.  Also just picked up the Porsche with Zim on Dragons Xmas sales.  It is SWEET!

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Posted by CBennett on Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:38 PM

yeah I read up a bit and I guess its down to buy/find a kit or attempt to do it myself.....I noticed there were too many changes to be a later model.

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:13 PM

The exhaust and grills are different as well. I believe Cavalier makes a set.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:52 PM

To build it as a late model at the very least you need a different barrel and mantlet. And of the top of my head there are other differences.

I believe there are other companies that do AM Zimm. But doing you own really isn't that hard. there are a number of options, mine is Miliput white white.

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Looking for a Zimmerit kit for a jagd panther OR alternatives
Posted by CBennett on Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:49 PM

Ive got the Dragon Early (smart kit) Jagd Panther..and the one thing I noticed  was its 1 glaring lack of Zimmerit...didnt think much of it at first as when I got it i guess i didnt really realize it was a "early" version I just figured it may have been a later production model at the time they stopped using it to save time and such as I know at some point(done no research on exact dates though) they did stop using it. Question i have is I can do 1 of 2 or 3 things.

 

1. Build it as a "later" model sans the Zimmerit ...Is there really any difference in the early and late models except the Zimmerit??(i dont know) and if so what??

2. Get a Atak Zimmerit kit of which I know they exist but im having trouble finding it here in the USA...all the sites I search that actually have these are in the UK ,Poland or Australia ...so this makes a realtively inexpensive kit a quite expensive one because the shipping is almost as much as the kit is at these places!(or can you recommend a place to get this that the shipping isnt as much as the kit??)

3. I know you can try to replicate the Zimmerit look and try to "hand do it" ...that said thats the least likely as this is gonna be my first armor kit in almost 20-25+ years.....and im going for a more "realistic" look than i was worried about back when I was 14-18 years old now that im 42 :) .

4. Any other alternatives you can think of??

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