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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, May 20, 2012 6:00 AM

Wow,fantastic work and detail on such a small scale

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  • From: imperial beach, ca
Posted by malone duke on Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:32 AM

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I sincerely apologize fellas....  I havent been on for a while...  too many huge disasters going on on the home front, one being finding out that the house i've been renting was forclosed on several months ago...  so yeah... a shake and bake move...  but through it all i still was able to keep a decent frame of mind...   and hobbying is such a relief...  really guys...  it was nice to know that at somepoint i could regain my slim connection here...  where i live there is just no hobby network other than this with which to share my progress within the hobby...  i plan to be more proactive to posting in the near future but tonight at least i can shoot out some pics...  sorry they are so far from the last ones... i wanted to do a true wip, but...  it's still not done...  i have to do something else to the tracks...  and the crane isnt done weathering...  and yes i added the crane...  if you can see it in these pics its very rickity at best...  not the best engineering on dragons part...  but none the less it looks cool as crap...  i was going to do a diorama with ammo loading but now my smaller place has me reassessing alot of ideas...  but as i said in earlier posts that this was more of a test run than a show winner...  i think i'm doing ok...  one thing though, i didnt lightening the base boat and camo...  after filtering everything is too dark i think...  let me know so i can adjust my painting...  also... i'm a veteran of the drybrushing craze...  so my chips and scratches may seem overboard but the way i figure at this point in the war the germans had an anything goes approach to their equipment just like the russians did a year back...  hence on most mid to late war german vehicles i feel overboard is ok... guys let me know what ya think...  all  comments are accepted...  i'm using this one for the constructive criticism...  also i had to leave off the little ambush scheme triangles that were suggested in the dragon painting instructions...  i feel this is ok, cause i'm sure they werent on the tank for the entire service life...  sorry for the long diatribe....  here are some pics...[View:/themes/fsm/utility/Photobucket:550:0]

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Monday, April 9, 2012 11:13 AM

Ditto to the others' comments regarding the PE work here. Very sharp. Yes

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  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Bodge on Monday, April 9, 2012 8:14 AM

Wow those details are something else. mind boggling work.Bow Down

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, April 8, 2012 6:29 PM

WOW, that's cool with all the PE on it! It's amazing, all that detail!

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  • From: imperial beach, ca
Posted by malone duke on Sunday, April 8, 2012 4:07 PM

another small update...  got everything on cept the fenders and shrouds on exhaust...  [View:/themes/fsm/utility/Uploaded from the Photobucket Android App:550:0][View:/themes/fsm/utility/Uploaded from the Photobucket Android App:550:0][View:/themes/fsm/utility/Uploaded from the Photobucket Android App:550:0][View:/themes/fsm/utility/Uploaded from the Photobucket Android App:550:0][View:/themes/fsm/utility/Uploaded from the Photobucket Android App:550:0]

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, April 6, 2012 1:04 PM

Not all Dragon kits come with rubber band tracks (DS or vinyl). Some come with link & length like the Porsche Tiger I mentioned above as well as subsequent Armor Pro releases of the Elefant.

On modern armor with side skirts like the Challenger, Abrams, Bradley and paper panzers like the Maus and E-100, the DS/vinyl one piece tracks make assembly much easier than trying to deal with miniscule individual tracks links that would be mostly covered over and out of sight.

As far as the diecast metal hulls go, Dragon has (had) just a handful of kits with the diecast hulls before they got smart and went to all plastic. From memory, it was the Panther series (G early, G late, F, Observation G, and Jagdpanzer), the Sturmtiger, and USMC Amtrac.

Subsequent releases of the Panther, Jagdpanzer and Amtrac were all plastic with new kit numbers.

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Posted by the doog on Friday, April 6, 2012 12:25 PM

I steer completely clear of any 'Metal" hulls. Who needs the heartbreak when you put your heart into a piece of Art?

These Dragon kits are nice, but I curse them for the rubber band tracks--I don't care how detailed they can cast them now, the floppiness and sometimes poor-fit of them make them maddeningly "1980's"-ish.They also take a toll on your glue joints over time. If I use them, I always use epoxy cement to buttress the area where the idlers/sprockets attach.

I sometimes will buy a second Revell kit just to get the indy link tracks so I can make a decent model. I hate doing it, but I can't stand rubber bands tracks!

 

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, April 6, 2012 11:52 AM

1/72 ? That's a good looking kit and a nice job so far

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, April 6, 2012 7:41 AM

malone duke

i havent comse across any with the metal tubs yet either. i'll have to watch out. i have a few of these in the stash and i've put together the early tiger kit. that one was alot better than this on.  i will say monly disappointments so far have been the molded on equipment and some chunky detail. but overall fun kits. i just figured if these companies would put as much attention as they do in 1/72 aircraft they could get alot more customers in this scale. the eduard set has made it alot better though. but on my next one i will be replacing the tool handles. the flat effect isnt working for me.

The metal kits with molded on tools belie the kit's true original purpose; to be sold as preassembled diecast display pieces. They just offered the display models in kit form to get a foot into the market. Their subsequent purpose-designed construction kits are much better than their earlier "unassembled" display model.

I believe their first dozen 1/72 scale models were not designed strictly as kits, but as display pieces. Their Porsche Tiger and T-34 series were the real first "kits" designed to be built rather than unassembled display models in kit form. After the "Dirty Dozen", the rest of the kits in their 1/72 scale line are pretty darn good. Although every once in a while there is a hiccup, normally surrounding the vinyl tracks or misaligned drive sprocket teeth.

Dragon set the bar with their fairly comprehensive Sherman series.

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, April 6, 2012 2:05 AM

It looks great as I can not tell if it is really 1/72!  Looking forward to see how it comes out... Beer

Andy

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:20 PM

Sharp work on the braille PE. I can't even master it in 1/35, so I'm more impressed with 1/72.

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 Eric 

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  • From: imperial beach, ca
Posted by malone duke on Thursday, April 5, 2012 4:26 PM

sorry tigerman. didnt catch your post in time.  the light is puttied over cause the eduard set provides a stand for it. and yes there is a travel lock. i should have a couple more pics in a bit.  the putty in the back corner by the roof is to cover a hole that i suppose would have been for a command antenae? otherwise all the others are to cover my booboos from not using a new blade when i cut off all the details.  i plan to attempt to bend the exhaust covers this evening. im not looking forward to it. i just cant get the hang of getting my curves right...  also if anyone could answer this ?  the barrel has a ring on the end that arent in any photos. so far i just filled the ring in and sanded it down. does anyone think i shouldve cut it off at that point instead?  either way i might just leave it. i kinda think it looks cool with the super long gun even if it aint right.

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  • From: imperial beach, ca
Posted by malone duke on Thursday, April 5, 2012 3:51 PM

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some more progress.  the shovel looks like total crap, hopefully i'll be able to do something with it once it's primed...  [View:/themes/fsm/utility/Uploaded from the Photobucket Android App:550:0]

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  • From: imperial beach, ca
Posted by malone duke on Thursday, April 5, 2012 3:01 PM

sorry tigerman. didnt catch your post in time.  the light is puttied over cause the eduard set provides a stand for it. and yes there is a travel lock. i should have a couple more pics in a bit.  the putty in the back corner by the roof is to cover a hole that i suppose would have been for a command antenae? otherwise all the others are to cover my booboos from not using a new blade when i cut off all the details.  i plan to attempt to bend the exhaust covers this evening. im not looking forward to it. i just cant get the hang of getting my curves right...  also if anyone could answer this ?  the barrel has a ring on the end that arent in any photos. so far i just filled the ring in and sanded it down. does anyone think i shouldve cut it off at that point instead?  either way i might just leave it. i kinda think it looks cool with the super long gun even if it aint right.

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    April 2011
  • From: imperial beach, ca
Posted by malone duke on Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:44 PM

i havent comse across any with the metal tubs yet either. i'll have to watch out. i have a few of these in the stash and i've put together the early tiger kit. that one was alot better than this on.  i will say monly disappointments so far have been the molded on equipment and some chunky detail. but overall fun kits. i just figured if these companies would put as much attention as they do in 1/72 aircraft they could get alot more customers in this scale. the eduard set has made it alot better though. but on my next one i will be replacing the tool handles. the flat effect isnt working for me.

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    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:37 PM

Curious as to why you puttied over where the notek light would be intstalled?

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 Eric 

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, April 5, 2012 9:57 AM

For more information and some photos (but not of my kit), look at this post in Missing Lynx's Braille Scale forum called "Shame on Dragon".

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47210/thread/1331065866/Shame+on+Dragon

The front of my Panther G hull is deteriorating very much like the photo of the rear of Panther hull. You can see it starting to deform and slowly pull apart. This kit is sitting inches away from much older kits including a Matchbox Comet and Esci Abrams that are at least double the age of my Dragon Panther.

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  • From: Illinois: Hive of Scum and Villany
Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:48 AM

Rob Gronovius

Dragon, more so than others, you need to be careful before buying their 1/72 scale kits. Some are terrible and some of the kits with diecast metal hulls have begun to deteriorate and crumble. It's been the subject of various Braille scale forums.

Many thanks for the warning !

I'll definitely check reviews first.

Hadn't heard of the diecast metal  hulls.

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, April 5, 2012 6:17 AM

Dragon, more so than others, you need to be careful before buying their 1/72 scale kits. Some are terrible and some of the kits with diecast metal hulls have begun to deteriorate and crumble. It's been the subject of various Braille scale forums. Personally, I have two of their diecast metal hulled kits built, both around the same time, almost 10 years ago. The Sturmtiger is just fine, but the Panther G's front hull has begun to separate and crumble. Both sit in a locked display cabinet within inches from one another, neither one has been missed with or handled.

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  • From: Illinois: Hive of Scum and Villany
Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:40 PM

Looks very nice.Cool

I've been told the 1/72 Dragon armor kits are currently the best in that scale but have only seen completed kits.

Helps a lot to see a Dragon kit partially assembled.Big Smile

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  • From: imperial beach, ca
dragon jagdtiger 1/72
Posted by malone duke on Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:02 PM

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what's up guys.  Taking little breaks in between working on my pz 3 over in group builds and playing around with this little guy.  has been ok so far. i'm also adding eduard's photoetch set to it. which has been real fun dealing with tiniest parts ever.  but i have been able to better my skills at glue control on this one. i'm forcing my self to think smaller with this one and i'm hoping i'll get alot cleaner with my 1/35 builds.  she's pretty rough right now. i'm in the middle of all the clean up at this point. comments are always welcome...[View:/themes/fsm/utility/Uploaded from the Photobucket Android App:550:0]

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