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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, August 15, 2013 5:42 PM

Looks good but I have to give doog the big DITTO for looking up scratchmod.  Nothing short of amazing.  he hangs in the Moldelers Social Club.  There is even a section just for burn outs (tank, not the molders) and rusters.

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    July 2009
  • From: lafayette la
Posted by 40.mm on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:20 PM

Thank you all for your responses . When i picked up this kit some 8 or 9 years ago( if memory serves me correctly and it usually dosent ) i did not have this infernal contraption or access to the internet .

What a wonderful tool for research, now i see the course of action that must be taken !

! Doff the chains(what was i thinking ?)

2 More smoke and soot

3 Battle damage the fenders

4 Remove the rubber on some of the road wheels (surely they would have burnt off )

5 add ammo belt for the machine  gun

Doog  you are right about Scratchmod, he is a master of exemplary quality !

  Again thank you all for your input on this humble subject ...

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:30 PM

US tanks have been using APFSDS (aka "sabot") since the early 1980s as the primary anti-tank ammunition. APFSDS stands for Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot. I was stuck with the nickname 'Sabot" for over two decades. Spin produced by rifling is inefficient and is why the main gun is a smoothbore 120mm.

It is basically a depleted uranium dart that travels at Mach 5 with a relatively flat trajectory. Goes in one side of the tank with a itty bitty hole and the resulting overpressure, spalling and fireball disintegrate the interior of the tank. It exits the tank with a small hole as well. You often can't tell it's been hit so "double servicing" or shooting it again is the norm unless the first hit was visually catastrophic; i.e. produced a huge fireball or popped the turret off.

HEAT rounds can be defeated by reactive armor and are generally used against softskins, light armored vehicles and helicopters.

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  • From: Kincheloe Michigan
Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:57 PM

sure would have thought a HEAT round would have left a somewhat larger hole. And the sooting should be darker since it would have been a very violent fire.

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:11 PM

Second photo, along the grunt rail, aft of the green turret marking appears to be the entry point.

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  • From: Kincheloe Michigan
Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, August 11, 2013 11:24 AM

umm if the tank is destroyed where is the entry hole for the round that killed it?

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:57 AM

I agree with the tow chains; those things look like something a ship would use to weigh anchor. It would take a half dozen men to handle a chain that size.

As far as the burned out hull, remember, less is often more. I've climbed on a few destroyed tanks, but none had been very badly burned.

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    October 2005
  • From: Warwick, RI
Posted by Kolschey on Saturday, August 10, 2013 6:02 AM

Quite promising so far!

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 9, 2013 9:38 AM

Cool! As someone still trying to figure out how to do a convincing knocked-out vehicle please keep us posted on what you decide to do.

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  • From: On my kitchen counter top somewhere in central North Carolina.
Posted by disastermaster on Friday, August 9, 2013 2:23 AM

I like it too. 

Now, unchain that beast.....

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  • From: Puebla, Mexico
Posted by garzonh on Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:25 PM

Definitely needs a lot more damage, weathering, burned...

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, August 8, 2013 5:24 PM

Yeah, lose those big, out-scale chains. And look up a guy named "scratchmod"--there's no finer renderer of burnt-out, rusty hulks. He's a master.

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Posted by T26E4 on Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:41 PM

I'd omit the "tow chains" as well.  They haven't been part of a tank's inventory for about 70 years.  Too unreliable: dangerous.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:28 PM

I like it... but would suggest way more burn area...

 

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