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Panzer III Barbarossa Paint Scheme

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Panzer III Barbarossa Paint Scheme
Posted by Tankster on Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:26 PM

I'm finishing up on Dragon's Panzer III Model J #6543 and I've come to a crossroads as to how to paint it.  The instructions call for Dark Yellow over the Panzer Grey but the box art on the side of the box has the tank as overall Panzer Grey. 

My question is were Panzers in Barbarossa painted in the overspray type like the DAK?  This maybe too general a question but I thought I'd ask so someone more knowledgeable could steer me in the right direction.

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, August 25, 2013 7:25 PM

i would think just panzer gray but you coulf probably load up with 5 gal cans and ectra spare tracks

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Posted by Tankster on Sunday, August 25, 2013 7:35 PM

It would be more plausible to assume that since this was early on in the war when supplies were more abundant.  I have plenty of Panzer Dark Grey so I think I'll just use that.  I've tried finding some reference pics of the vehicle in the guide but to no avail.

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Posted by modeler#1 on Monday, August 26, 2013 12:09 AM

most of the tanks in russia were painted gray,

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, August 26, 2013 12:37 AM

At the opening of Babarossa, it would be safe to have everything in panzer Gray. Later as losses mounted and equipment meant for Africa was diverted to Russia as attrition replacements, tropical colors could be found there. Not Dark Yellow in 1941, but  Gelbbraun RAL 8000 Graugrun RAL 7008 in 1941 could be found in Russia.

 

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, August 26, 2013 12:40 AM

Tankster

I've tried finding some reference pics of the vehicle in the guide but to no avail.......

Barbarossa?

Here 'ya go..........        http://www.coolscrapsdigital.com/forum/images/smilies/smileys602210/cool_faces_point_down_050904.gif

http://www.asisbiz.com/Battles/Barbarossa/images/German-Panzer-PzKpfw-III-tank-red-633-supported-by-German-Infranty-advances-slowly-forward-01.jpg

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Tankster on Monday, August 26, 2013 8:19 PM

Thanks for the help.  I'm thinking this is where artistic interpretation is gonna come into play.  I think the dark grey with dark yellow overspray will do nicely.  :)

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, August 26, 2013 10:23 PM

Dark Yellow was still a couple of years away during Babarossa. That color most likely is Gelbbraun RAL 8000. One of the colors used in Africa.

 

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, August 26, 2013 10:42 PM

It's up to you Tankster...... http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/marie01_08/Smileys%20and%20Stuff/bth_AnimatedQuestionMarkSmiley.gif

Depending on how and how much you weather it, the actual correct shade won't matter that much.

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Tankster on Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:10 AM

Heres's what I have so far...  This is Vallejo Model Air Panzer Dark Grey and VMA Dark Yellow.

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Posted by modeler#1 on Tuesday, August 27, 2013 11:45 AM

Very Nice!

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Posted by f8sader on Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:55 PM

Most excellent clean paint work!  Thanks for listing the kit (and it's number)!  Has it received a wash in the photos posted or is it the lighting or the colors really make the detail pop?

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:11 AM

Nice, http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/smily/damn.gifNice.

  I Love it.

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Tankster on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:18 AM

f8sader

Most excellent clean paint work!  Thanks for listing the kit (and it's number)!  Has it received a wash in the photos posted or is it the lighting or the colors really make the detail pop?

I hadn't in that pic.  I had just painted and posted before I left for work.  Last night I gave it a pin wash Testors dark brown "Rubber' and drybrushed it a lightened Panzer Grey so the details really pop now :)  Decals are on, I just gotta finish up 'dirtying up' the running gear and I painted all the tools and wooden parts on it as well. 

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:58 PM

That looks great---there was a period in Russia where Dark Grey and Dark Yellow were overlapped, and used for camo. There's a few Tigers in that scheme as well.

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:15 PM

Very nice representation of the camo pattern, give it the perfect 'dappled' look. Beer

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Posted by EBergerud on Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:58 AM

DM,

You sure that photo is from 1941?

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:42 PM

EBergerud

DM,

You sure that photo is from 1941?

 It's not. The misleading part may be the original thread title referencing 'Barbarossa'. The pic that DM provided is from mid-late 1942 given the model of Pz III it shows. Wink

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Posted by f8sader on Thursday, September 5, 2013 9:26 PM

Thanks for the response.  Any updates?

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:31 PM

 

wbill76

EBergerud

DM,

You sure that photo is from 1941?

 It's not. The misleading part may be the original thread title referencing 'Barbarossa'. The pic that DM provided is from mid-late 1942 given the model of Pz III it shows. Wink


 Sorryhttp://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/expressifs/timide/timidite.gif I wasn't very vigilant here after seeing that finely painted panzer III.

 Click on  the picture below to see how I came to the conclusion on the coloring.

                                     http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd489/SonelSA/finger-pointing-down-animation-gif_zpscc84fece.gif

http://www.asisbiz.com/Battles/Barbarossa/images/German-self-propelled-artillery-Sturmgeschutz-StuG-III-tank-02.jpg

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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