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Pin Wash B4 or After Weathering?

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Pin Wash B4 or After Weathering?
Posted by Chrisk-k on Monday, September 2, 2013 2:46 PM

The subject says it all. I've applied pin washes before general weathering. However, the effect of pin washes is not noticeable after weathering. So I wonder if I should apply pin washes after weathering.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, September 2, 2013 4:01 PM

Before,you want it to have a subtle effect,I would think it might be too stark applied over everything else.

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Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, September 2, 2013 4:56 PM

It depends on what you are looking to achieve.  For "general" purposes I would say a good deep color before hand will start you along with good contrast.  However, after laying down weathering layers, don't go too stark.  Apply pin washes just a couple shades darker than the area you are applying it to so that you get a subtle effect.

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:23 PM

It really depends on your comfort level, but I can tell you this--modelers who look for a "pat" method of weathering--you know; 1. paint, 2. add filters, 3. pinwashes, 4, add pigments, and so on and so on--are missing the point. Weathering is not a destination, it's a journey where the destination arrives without you knowing it. Kinda like where Jeremiah Johnson finds that place along the river and decides that "We'll live here"--you know it when you get there, But sometimes you can't "get there" with a map; you have to break a few branches to find the promised land.

I pinwash at least twice--the first time for definition over the base coat, and then a second, or even third pass to really add shadows and definition. You have to make exaggerated definition in 1/35 scale in order to simulate the way that light falls on a real vehicle-the so-called "Scale Effect". Add some early, and then always keep the possibility open for adding more later. When you put down pigments or even an airbrushed dust coat, you'll lose some that definition you had the first time. Don't be afraid to go in there for a second pass, or even more if you think it could use it. Take your time, weather in layers, and don't be in a hurry to get something done. That's the secret to modelling magic.

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:59 PM

                                  http://thisboardrocks.com/forum/images/smilies/N1amenHL2.GIF

   Precisely the way I see it.

Half the fun is "getting there".

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, September 4, 2013 6:27 AM

Well Chris,what do think ? Any thoughts ?

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