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After acrylics?
Posted by Leddy on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:05 AM

After using Tamiya acrylics on my RSO I am ready to do a wash.  Should this be an oil wash?  What should I use to mix with the oil paint?  what should I put over the acrylic paint to protect it from the oil wash?  Is the wash done before putting an Archer dry transfer on? 

Thanks,

Leddy

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Posted by mbrman on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:47 AM

I always do filters and washes after all markings are applied to ensure they get weathering treatment also.  After paint I seal with Vallejo clear gloss, apply markings, then apply Vallejo clear satin.  I use oil paints for washes and filters and mix with turpenoid, which is very low odor.  Make sure you let your blob of oil paint sit on a piece of cardboard for a while in order to get rid of the linseed oil carrier before mixing your wash or filter.  HTH.

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Posted by New Hampshire on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:14 PM

I don't use any clear coats.  Base coat with my Tamiya's, add decals, coat generously with micro sol in multiple applications.  This pretty much melts the decals right onto the matte base coat.  I almost never have any silvering problems.  I then do my oil washes and filters using Oderless Mineral Spirits.  Never had a problem with it eating the base coat, decals, nor the washes migrating underneath the decals.  If I were to use enamel thinners and enamel paints for washes (which I don't) THEN I might consider a clearcoat. 

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:38 PM

I've used oils thinned with "odourless solvent" directly over Tamiya acrylic without any issues.

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Posted by Misty on Thursday, November 28, 2013 2:52 AM

"Make sure you let your blob of oil paint sit on a piece of cardboard for a while in order to get rid of the linseed oil carrier before mixing your wash or filter"

you learn something every day!! thanks!!

+1 for odourless thinners, i use normal stuff once (you will only do it once, believe me!!) and it ruined the paintwork

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Posted by Leddy on Friday, November 29, 2013 4:06 PM

Would AK washes  work over Tamiya paints as a  weathering  wash without  a protective coat?

Thanks,

Leddy

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Posted by mbrman on Friday, November 29, 2013 5:23 PM

Maybe...try and find out.  I've heard AK products are hot, in that they will affect paints they're used on.  Also, why pay the price for pre-made washes when you can make the exact same thing yourself for about 25 cents v. 5 dollars?  

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Saturday, November 30, 2013 11:38 PM

I make my oil washes by mixing Mona Lisa Odorless Paint Thinner (i.e., mineral spirits) and W&N or MIG oil paints.  I've applied oil washes directly over Tamiya acrylics. ZERO PROBLEM.

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Posted by Tankster on Thursday, December 5, 2013 11:13 AM

I make my oil washes with Odorless mineral spirits and the basic Testors paints in weathering colors ( rubber, black, rust, etc) since they're only $1.50 a bottle.  I always lay down a coat of Future because it protects the surface and makes wiping away any overwash easier its also easier to do streaking effects on a gloss surface like for rust or grease.  And it gives a nice surface for the decals as well.  

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, December 6, 2013 7:18 AM

The acrylics act as a barrier when using solvent type washes. If using a water based wash you need a enamel barrier coat. I make my own washes out of artists oils and Pure Gum Spirits Turpentine from Lowes or Home Depot and I get the same effect as in those expensive washes in the small bottles for tons of less $.

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