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D.B. FACTORY PAINT
Posted by ps1scw on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Hello, I was interested in learning how D.B. painted Panthers at the end of the war. Would they have altered the proceedure for the Panther F? Does anyone have a 4 side drawing of the distinctive D.B. paint work? Thank you in advance.
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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 7:09 PM

What's DB?

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Posted by Ixion on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 7:44 PM

Daimler-Benz Panther G's had a distinct, hard-edged, factory-applied camouflage from Sept. 1944 until the end of the war. Here is an example; 

I don't have an 4-view color plate, although some sources indicate the best available color plates of late DB Panthers is found in Duel in the Mist, Vol I.  The position of the Balkenkreuz behind the wire-cutter / fire extinguisher mounts and the barely visible spare road wheel bracket on the turret side, along with the distinct (albeit with some variation) camouflage, are identifying marks of a late DB Panther G.

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by ps1scw on Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:41 AM

Thank you!  I was thinking that as Daimler Benz had the Panther F turrets, possible hulls, that early production would have been painted as those vehicles they were transitioning from.  Duel in the Mist Vol 1.  deals mainly with Army Group Peiper correct?  As my last name is Piper, I should probably have that anyway :)

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Posted by Ixion on Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:34 AM

We know for certain that Ausf F hulls were in the production line at DB at the end of the war. Photos of the ruined factory show the hulls with the guide rails for the newly-designed sliding driver's hatch plainly visible.

Although, as Jentz has stated, all Panthers issued to the last unit were still Ausf G. However, he continues;

"Therefore, if a few Panther Ausf F had been successfully completed, they would have been issued on 20 through 23 April 1945 to the II./ Panzer-Regiment 2 for the immediate employment in defense of the Berlin area."

Personally, I doubt this happened, for if any Ausf F actually made it into combat, there would certainly be one sitting in Kubinka today, or at least a record of one. There is no way the Soviets would have passed up examining the final culmination of German tank design.

Here is the publisher's review of Duel in the Mist, the book includes color profiles of the various factory applied color schemes.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/78968/message/1172813397/Duel+in+the+Mist

Additional information;

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/thread/1233789169/Dragon+Panther+F+question

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  • From: Michigan
Posted by ps1scw on Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:08 AM

Thank you everyone

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