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Alan, Maquette, Heller, Zvezda, and those ilk

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Alan, Maquette, Heller, Zvezda, and those ilk
Posted by CarnivourousDonut on Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:28 PM

I know many of these makers had "humble" beginnings, but have any of them improved yet? I keep seeing some interesting kits from them, but having been burned before (granted, this was some years ago) I am reluctant to try again...

Let's rattle the cage, crack the machine. Let 'em know who you are, shine to be seen.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:35 PM

I only have experience from that list, in armor, with Heller, and only a couple of kits. Certainly build able, and a subject that no one else kits. I don't think they've had a kit in a long time.

Zvezda in other subjects like ships and aircraft have been selling a lot of stuff recently that is derived from pretty basic sources like eastern Express, old Novo/ ex-Frog.

All of those types of kits take a lot of work, but if you pride yourself in overcoming obstacles, and find a subject you like, it's hard to say no to any model.

One model company that is back, and I still do not like at all, is Lindberg.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:21 PM

Zvezda and Heller have improved their kits as time went on. The other two, no. I don't think either one of those companies has put out a new tooled kit of their own in well over 10 years.

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:37 PM

GMorrison

One model company that is back, and I still do not like at all, is Lindberg.

Actually, the company name of Lindberg is no longer owned as an independent company but as part of a group of names owned by Round2Models:
whose business model appears to be that of re-issuing and sometimes updating old kits- not an uncommon practice when high kit collector prices indicate sufficient demand to warrant the expenditure of producing re-pops of old kits.
Revell seems to be doing very well re-issuing old Monogram , Revell and Renwal kits.
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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:49 PM

Thats true, and their website has a lot of interesting stuff. I recently bought both the Lindberg President Wilson, and the "Q ship".

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, April 2, 2015 11:10 AM

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Posted by Real G on Thursday, April 2, 2015 2:16 PM

Zvezda has really improved over the years.  I have their T-90 kit, and although according to the experts it is "fatally flawed" by having a too tall hull, the molding and detail are superb.  Their new IL-62 airliner is also a beauty, as I have had a peek into a friend's kit.  They seem to focus more on aircraft than armor, which may explain their re-boxing of other manufacturer's kits.

Heller seems to be stuck in the past, as I have not seen a recent tool kit from them.  Their Leclerc from the 1990s was a turd!  To be fair, I built the 105mm AMX-13 back in 1980, and thought it was a good kit with the exception of the stiff rubber band tracks and crappy figures.  Too bad Heller can't reinvigorate themselves like Airfix, and focus on unique cool French stuff.

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Posted by CarnivourousDonut on Thursday, April 2, 2015 9:09 PM

Thank you. Being an amateur, I need kits that are relatively easy to build (Tamiya) with good detail (Dragon has the detail thing down pat but the sea of parts...)

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Posted by Real G on Thursday, April 2, 2015 9:22 PM

Yes, you really can't go wrong with Tamiya.  Even their old doggy kits are easy to build.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, April 2, 2015 9:54 PM

Heller came out with some wheeled French APCs. The VAB 4x4 and VAB 6x6 that are probably their newest tooled armor kits. Although I would estimate both if those to be probably nearing the 10 year mark on release date now.

Zvezda also modified some of the older Dragon Soviet wheeled vehicle kits. The tires are better than the original Dragon soft rubber ones that would split after a few months. And they put some later turrets on the BTR kit(s).

But for engineering ease of assembly in armor you really can't beat Tamiya. But also have a look at Italeri's older 1/35 armor kits too. Their Sherman's, Panzers ( I, IV& 38T), Crusaders, and

M13/40 & Semovente kits are all good builds. As is their jeep in all it's various guises...

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, April 2, 2015 10:50 PM

I think the first armor kit I built (2.0 phase not counting all that Renwal stuff) was the Italeri Panzer 4. A really nice model.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, April 2, 2015 11:28 PM

Yes, the Italeri Panzer IV family has held their age quite well. Beautifully detailed kits straight OOB. Get some Academy indy link tracks and you still have a great bargain priced kit.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Real G on Friday, April 3, 2015 1:55 PM

My first 2.0 armor kit was the Tamiya M-3 Lee.  I had never heard of Tamiya nor knew what an M-3 was, but dad filled me in on the Lee.  The packaging, kit and instructions told me all I needed to know what Tamiya was all about.  I was hooked.  I also stretched my first sprue antenna with this kit (with dad's help of course, what with matches and fire being involved).  That was back in 1976!

I also agree that Italeri's Panzer IV series was great for its time.  The part breakdown was very fine, more so than Tamiya.  As a small kid though, Italeri's hard, brittle plastic made the old "twist & snap" method of part removal impractical.  I think that was one of the reasons that prompted me to start using cutters.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, April 3, 2015 9:55 PM

Lol, my first 1/35th armour kit was that same Italeri Panzer IV (F,F2, and G version I think) back somewhere around '86-'87.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by gjw on Sunday, April 5, 2015 11:24 AM
I have had one experience with maquette which was the t 34 model 1940. At first it looked Like a mess but the kit was fairly good. From what I read though, the consistency of quality is fairly inconsistent.Buy at your own risk.
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Posted by Panzerwerk on Monday, April 6, 2015 6:55 PM

I am building the Alan Waffentrager , and its a nightmare , go to be one of the worst kits I have ever built , nothing fits , more filler then plastic , but I am going to do my best .

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Posted by qcarr on Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:18 PM

I chose the Lindberg "M-46 Patton" (more appropriately known as "M46 Patton") as my re-introduction to the hobby because of its low skill level requirement. Yes, it may be simple, but I definitely got a refresher course on cleaning up flash, mold lines, ejector marks, and filling in gaps with putty!

The kit is definitely NOT 1/35 (more like 1/32 or larger since it's a re-issue of an old motorized kit), not historically accurate, and not great. That all being said, it's not horrible either and I enjoyed building it. If I could do it over again, I'd buy the CyberHobby M46 instead.

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