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DML armor gives me grief and headaches

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DML armor gives me grief and headaches
Posted by Reaper420 on Wednesday, August 19, 2015 2:59 PM

The thread title says it all. Between the horrible directions and the unecessary amount of sub assemblies, I sometimes want to throw in the towel on certain kits, then throw the kit out. Now while DML kits have great detail, the fit of the parts is less than perfect sometimes and it's often in places that make filling and sanding very difficult. Also in my opinion, if Dragon put as much into their directions as they did their kits, they would be doing pretty good. And their supposed "smart kits", they don't seem all that much different than the normal kits, being that they still have a ton of parts and sub assemblies. All that being said, I still buy them though and for the most part enjoy the build!Stick out tongue

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  • From: Tumwater, WA.
Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, August 19, 2015 3:11 PM

Agreed. But they are simple in comparison to an AFV Club kit. At least AFVC kits have decent instructions and I say that even after finding a few errors in mine lol.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by T26E4 on Wednesday, August 19, 2015 3:14 PM

Like most companies they have their good and their bad.  I've been working on their M7 Priest howitzer motor carriage.  It's a FANTASTIC kit. 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 19, 2015 3:18 PM

I find Dragon to be hit and mss as far as the instructions go. Some of them would make brain surgery easy in comparison, especially those with multipul oprions, but other are just a dream to use. The two Panther kits i have built recently were a dream.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, August 19, 2015 3:21 PM

I look at it as though they exist in their own reality, with their own rules.

I'd rather build a Cyberhobby ISU 152 that the Tamiya one on account of the end result, even though I had to go and open up most of the holes in the hull for the various fittings.

But wow, the detail. It's a challenge for sure.

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Posted by LonCray on Friday, August 21, 2015 8:42 AM

It's almost like you have to know which designers at Dragon did each particular kit.  Like, I'd buy any Dragon kit that had the same design team as their M1 Panther/M1A1/M1A2 kits, while anything from the team that did the M103 kit should be avoided like the plague.  Is there any way to get that information?

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Posted by waynec on Friday, August 21, 2015 9:54 AM

i have a 1/350 DRAGON GEARING DD (from hell). at least in the ships they seem to overcomplicate things, the twin 20mm were 7 parts plus a couple of pe pieces each.

looking over my builds i don't think i have built any 1/35 DRAGON armor though i have some in the stash. i will be starting their OTS ATOMIC CANNON and have some other OTS armor. the JAGDTIGER was fun to build though there were some pe hooks i ignored.

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Posted by the doog on Friday, August 21, 2015 12:47 PM

You're singing an old song, lol.

Everyone knows the words to this one...Big Smile

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Posted by waynec on Friday, August 21, 2015 9:37 PM

the doog

You're singing an old song, lol.

Everyone knows the words to this one...Big Smile

 

and yet we never learn and still sing it.

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  • From: Armpit of NY
Posted by MJames70 on Saturday, August 22, 2015 12:23 PM

LonCray

It's almost like you have to know which designers at Dragon did each particular kit.  Like, I'd buy any Dragon kit that had the same design team as their M1 Panther/M1A1/M1A2 kits, while anything from the team that did the M103 kit should be avoided like the plague.  Is there any way to get that information?

 

Well, the M103 kits were technically 'Black Label' series kits by Dragon. The 'Black Label' branding in particular seems to equate highly with a half hearted, half a**ed effort on a subject, for full price. I'm sure Dragon's take on it is - Shut up and be glad you got an injection kit at all. So what if it's riddled with errors and inaccuracies...

 

In short, until you've had a chance to check out other's opinions and research on the internet, I'd avoid buying Black Label Dragon stuff sight unseen. It's a shame, as there is a M103A2 at a reserve center maybe an hour away from me. But I'm not sure I can deal with the mess of a kit is worth it. 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:07 PM

Yea,they are tough sometimes with the instructions,but they are worth the effort.

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