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German AFV Tools
Posted by Moff on Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:55 PM

As many of you know, I'm planning on building Trumpeter's 12.8cm PaK 44 Waffentrager for the 1946 GB. I've been searching for some aftermarket stuff to spruce up the kit, and I've begun looking into AFV tools. Here are my questions: 

  1. Why are there different types/styles of tools (shovels for instance) on different vehicles? 
  2. What style of tools do you think would go best with a Waffentrager? 

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Posted by Ixion on Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:20 AM

German AFV tools evolved during the war. Different shovels, pry bars, sledge hammers, wire cutters, fire extinguishers, S-hooks to C-hooks, they all changed. Aftermarket model tool sets seem to be divided into either early or late model designs. Obviously, a paper Panzer project would use a late war set.

These look nice;

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Posted by Moff on Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:30 AM

Wow, thanks for going out of your way to find this set for me! If I can find a place to purchase these, I'll definitely get this set. 

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Posted by T26E4 on Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:28 AM

Alliance Modelworks is can be found on Amazon.  LW35051 for $17

 

Tamiya 35185 might be easier to obtain (all injection plastic) -- Tamiya items have wide distributorship.

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, December 31, 2015 11:11 AM

Moff

As many of you know, I'm planning on building Trumpeter's 12.8cm PaK 44 Waffentrager for the 1946 GB.

 

MOff, whatever you choose to get, PLEASE post your updates and photos here in the Armor forum and NOT just in the Group Builds. Your project and the projects of your fellow GB participants will most likely never be seen over there by most of the Armor forum members who would appreciate it most.

Many people, myself included, do not like to trudge through the drudgery or dozens upon dozens of posts that have nothing to do with your specific build or posts that include updates on planes, ships, etc, Tongue Tied This is one of the most frustrating aspects of Group Builds--how they deny the photos and logs of the build and the completed photos. Please consider this in the future, and participate HERE in Armor, just as you have posted a question here to help you THERE. Smile

Personally, myself, I would appreciate this, and I know many other would too.Beer

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, December 31, 2015 11:24 AM

Moff, does the Trump kit not include the tools.

 

Karl, i am trying to encourage that in the GB. I am not allowing cross overs and have have asked that instead the builders consider doing a build in the relevant forum as well as the GB. I will certainly be doing that with both of my builds, one of which is the E-100 jagdpanzer, so plenty of heavy metal for you there. Wink

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Posted by P mitch on Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:30 PM

As your doing a "paper" panzer I'd be tempted to mix up the tools. For the prototypes they would I'm sure have just used anything they could find so if you have any in the spares box use them as well.

On the E-100 I built one a while back and its a big girl! Hope you have the room for it. I dont have a picture of the finished but here is the hull next to a King Tiger

Its a nice kit and I swapped out the barrel for a metal one which looks huge even in 1/35

Phil

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, December 31, 2015 1:38 PM

P mitch

As your doing a "paper" panzer I'd be tempted to mix up the tools. For the prototypes they would I'm sure have just used anything they could find so if you have any in the spares box use them as well.

On the E-100 I built one a while back and its a big girl! Hope you have the room for it. I dont have a picture of the finished but here is the hull next to a King Tiger

Its a nice kit and I swapped out the barrel for a metal one which looks huge even in 1/35

Phil

 

O ye, i have noticed its on the large size. Still trying to decide on a dio. What barrel did you use for it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by P mitch on Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:45 PM

Bish

I used the one for the 17cm Kanone Geschutzwagen Tiger but just the end piece not the full length, I looked at that but it would be insane that long. The muzzle is a perfect match I think.

I have the Trumpeter kit of the 17cm Kanone Geschutzwagen Tiger and that is a complete beast! I've built the Friul tracks and the weight of them alone is insane. At the same time as building the E-100 I put the lower hull for the Kanone Tiger next to it

Its the lower one here!!!

Phil 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:49 PM

Thanks Phil. I was woundering if it was that barrel, but thought it was a bit long.

And wow, your not wrong, that thing is damn huge.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Moff on Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:15 PM

the doog

 

 
Moff

As many of you know, I'm planning on building Trumpeter's 12.8cm PaK 44 Waffentrager for the 1946 GB.

 

 

 

MOff, whatever you choose to get, PLEASE post your updates and photos here in the Armor forum and NOT just in the Group Builds. Your project and the projects of your fellow GB participants will most likely never be seen over there by most of the Armor forum members who would appreciate it most.

 

Many people, myself included, do not like to trudge through the drudgery or dozens upon dozens of posts that have nothing to do with your specific build or posts that include updates on planes, ships, etc, Tongue Tied This is one of the most frustrating aspects of Group Builds--how they deny the photos and logs of the build and the completed photos. Please consider this in the future, and participate HERE in Armor, just as you have posted a question here to help you THERE. Smile

Personally, myself, I would appreciate this, and I know many other would too.Beer

 

Got it! I'll be sure to do that. 

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:16 PM

Bish

Moff, does the Trump kit not include the tools.

 

Karl, i am trying to encourage that in the GB. I am not allowing cross overs and have have asked that instead the builders consider doing a build in the relevant forum as well as the GB. I will certainly be doing that with both of my builds, one of which is the E-100 jagdpanzer, so plenty of heavy metal for you there. Wink

 

Good man, Bish! Thank you for doing that. I hope that people follow the recommendation. YesBeerBeer

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Posted by Moff on Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:20 PM

Bish

Moff, does the Trump kit not include the tools.

 

Bish, the Trumpeter kit does not include tools. Even if it did, I'm starting to become very picky about molding. I've got some gift cards to blow anyway. 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:21 PM

Moff
 
Bish

Moff, does the Trump kit not include the tools.

 

 

 

Bish, the Trumpeter kit does not include tools. Even if it did, I'm starting to become very picky about molding. I've got some gift cards to blow anyway. 

 

 

Ok, thats interesting. Going to have to check my E-100 now.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Moff on Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:39 PM

Bish

 

 
Moff
 
Bish

Moff, does the Trump kit not include the tools.

 

 

 

Bish, the Trumpeter kit does not include tools. Even if it did, I'm starting to become very picky about molding. I've got some gift cards to blow anyway. 

 

 

 

 

Ok, thats interesting. Going to have to check my E-100 now.

 

I'm currently a big fan of a Youtube modeler named Adam Mann, who's very much a rivet counter, so maybe it's wearing off on me. One of his big pet peeves is bad tool clasp molding. 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:44 PM

Moff
 
Bish

 

 
Moff
 
Bish

Moff, does the Trump kit not include the tools.

 

 

 

Bish, the Trumpeter kit does not include tools. Even if it did, I'm starting to become very picky about molding. I've got some gift cards to blow anyway. 

 

 

 

 

Ok, thats interesting. Going to have to check my E-100 now.

 

 

 

I'm currently a big fan of a Youtube modeler named Adam Mann, who's very much a rivet counter, so maybe it's wearing off on me. One of his big pet peeves is bad tool clasp molding. 

 

 

I do tend to replace all mine with PE ones, thoguh they can be fiddily to use. I have a couple of sets of Aber ones for German vehicles i rather like.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:44 PM

Thanks, Moff; I know that many here would appreciate it!

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:55 PM

the doog
 
Bish

Moff, does the Trump kit not include the tools.

 

Karl, i am trying to encourage that in the GB. I am not allowing cross overs and have have asked that instead the builders consider doing a build in the relevant forum as well as the GB. I will certainly be doing that with both of my builds, one of which is the E-100 jagdpanzer, so plenty of heavy metal for you there. Wink

 

 

 

Good man, Bish! Thank you for doing that. I hope that people follow the recommendation. YesBeerBeer

 

 

Only thinking of you buddy Wink

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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