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1/35 Italeri Tiger I (World of Tanks)

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, September 01, 2017 8:57 PM

Sounds like my years of playing World of Warcaft. Too many idiots anymore. Just sucks all the fun right out of it.

I've got Monday off so I'll have an extra day for painting this baby up. I'm going to start with a very near black and modulate my way down the scale till I get a nice and dark grey with a few highlighted areas on the top for variation.

After that I've got an idea how to paint the white tiger stripes to make it look like worn white wash.

I think a base may be necessary on this build. A mud and snow scene would be appropriate I think. ;)

what do you guys think?

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 01, 2017 10:26 PM

Sounds like a good plan. This is a "fun" kit, so have fun with the finish. Weathering can be a blast!

 

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Posted by DasBeav on Saturday, September 02, 2017 4:32 AM

November 3rd....if anyone cares.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, September 02, 2017 11:40 AM

M. Brindos

Sounds like my years of playing World of Warcaft. Too many idiots anymore. Just sucks all the fun right out of it.

I've played World of Warcraft for 11 years now, although on and off the past few years. I understand your statement going back to vanilla. In 2006 a friend of mine gave me a gift of the first game. When I started, I didn't know there were PvP and PvE realms. He didn't quest, he just did battlegrounds and played for hours so going beyond level 19 was not in his routine.

In my first year, bored high level players (level 60 at the time) would kill all low level players and NPCs making it impossible to quest. I actually started three different toons and would log off of one when they raided that rookie area and go to the next one. Then they caught on and would show up at the other race's rookie area. I stopped playing for a while and my friend asked why. When I told him, he directed me to PvE realms where you could learn to play without being fodder for max level players.

Once you leave the PvP realms, playing was quite peaceful. Every once in a while, I go back to my original realm. They still play that juvenile style of play where max level characters raid lower rookie levels. My last trip there was over a year ago and the number of players in Stormwind was 16. In my regular realm, a medium population realm, there are hundreds.

During the Cataclysm expansion, they had an "iron man" challenge, to level a character from 1 to 90 using only grey or white items, no professions beyond first aid and a death meant you had to start over. I made it with my third attempt, a night elf rogue. My previous attempts with a human paladin and night elf hunter were unsuccessful.

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Saturday, September 02, 2017 12:03 PM

Wow, Rob. You've convinced me beyond all doubt, that I'm thrilled I never got involved in WoT. What a bunch of gobbltygook. It's another entire language and sounds more like D&D than a war game.

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Posted by myles on Saturday, September 02, 2017 1:37 PM

stikpusher

Looks like a Tiger. Although the smoke grenade launchers and the exhaust guards are for the mufflers are for the initial production type and not this later type. 

 

This could be a late war hybrid tank,as thay used different pieces of all tiger tank parts to make a functional tiger as there was a shortage of all parts at the late stages of the war.

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, September 02, 2017 9:44 PM

M1GarandFan

Wow, Rob. You've convinced me beyond all doubt, that I'm thrilled I never got involved in WoT. What a bunch of gobbltygook. It's another entire language and sounds more like D&D than a war game.

 

I'm not familiar with the machinations of World of Tanks, but in the World of Warcraft, there are different servers for different styles of play. PvE or player vs. environment, are worlds where you can't even target enemy players unless they come into the opposite faction's cities and/or attack NPCs.

NPCs are non-player characters which are in game AI people that are vendors, guards, quest givers, etc. They are vital to actually playing the game by sending players on various tasks or are the target of the task. For instance, a farmer may ask you to kill the leader of a gang and get back something they took (or someone). You then have to kill a bunch of bad guy NPCs to kill their leader and rescue the person or retrieve the stolen item.

In a PvP world, an enemy high level player can kill all these folks (and you) and literally make it impossible to play in that area. At least until their moms make them get off the computer or they get bored. Waiting for lower level players characters to re-spawn is called "camping" and is bad form, but done frequently on PvP worlds.

In a PvE world, the enemy can still attack NPCs (usually called "grieving"), but can't attack you. But they normally don't go after rookie areas just to spoil the fun like they do in PvP worlds.

I've seen a few WoT forums where they think they know tanks and tank tactics. But they know them as well as I know sword fighting and archery from playing Warcraft.

Warcraft has a third style of world where people on the world attempt to mimic their in game character's racial traits and speech. These are called "role playing" worlds. If you play a dwarf or an elf, you try to talk and act like one in game.

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Sunday, September 03, 2017 7:09 AM

Thanks for that overview. I obviously was confused over the difference between WoW and WoT. Some of those acronyms are as bad as the U.S. government's, but thanks for the explaination. Still glad I'm not wasting my time there. I'd rather waste it here and building armor! ;-)

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, September 04, 2017 12:04 AM

It's not a waste of time if you're having fun and playing in moderation. When I started getting higher level characters, extremely difficult raids (an in game area where a group must go and fight a very hard NPC called a "boss") could take hours to set up and hours to complete. Four or more hours was not uncommon and required 5 to 25 players depending on the level.

Problem was that in order to get good at a raid, you had to do them, but if you did poorly, you'd get booted from the raid. It was a Catch-22. I stopped raiding because they were very time intensive.

I did find that it cut into my modeling time, but I would play for maybe 30 minutes to an hour at a time, often when waiting for something to dry or set.

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Posted by DasBeav on Monday, September 04, 2017 4:52 AM

I will just stick to playing CoD, MoH, Halo, and a little Madden. Going online with WoW and WoT and getting called a "Noob" by a 12 year old would be soul crushing.

Returning hijacked thread back to you, Mr. Brindos.Smile

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, September 04, 2017 2:23 PM

Well happy labor day! 

My one day 1:1 project is nearly complete on day three, so I haven't even sprayed any primer yet. :(

I'll likely find some time later this afternoon or next weekend. Bummer, 'cuz I was hoping to have the first layers of paint on by now lol.

I wish you all a happy Labor Day! :D

- Mike Brindos

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, September 04, 2017 2:41 PM

Rob,

I started off in vanilla as well. I still have a toon stuck at level 16 at the crossroads On a PvP sever. Just getting that far with the daily asshat raids padding their PvP kills was frustrating.

I made my best progression in Panda getting all the way through the raid ladder on heroic. Got my legendary and my title.

Ive not played much in this newest xpac. They're literally just giving legendaries away now. There's no sense of accomplishment in that.

Heck they're even dropping them as random loot!

So I'll see if the challenge comes back in the next xpac.

Not much time for it these days anyways lol.

- Mike Brindos

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Monday, September 04, 2017 4:19 PM

This one is coming along nicely!  Im definitely going to use your method of track installation for my next build.  Looks like it makes painting/weathering so much easier!

Chad

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, September 04, 2017 5:33 PM

This is the first time I've done it this way, so I guess we're going to find out if weathering is easier, eh? Lol

My strategy with the tracks is to paint the tracks and wheels in a custom dark steel enamel I made up years ago for such applications. I'll then spray some of the modulated greys over the centers of the wheels and see how that works out as a base for the weathering.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Monday, September 04, 2017 7:01 PM

DasBeav

I will just stick to playing CoD, MoH, Halo, and a little Madden. Going online with WoW and WoT and getting called a "Noob" by a 12 year old would be soul crushing.

Returning hijacked thread back to you, Mr. Brindos.Smile

 

 

Too bad he didn't play Delta Force 2 in PC version a good few years ago. The squad I belonged to would send him home crying. LOL!!!

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, September 05, 2017 8:45 AM

I got the primer on yesterday. Sorry, no pictures yet - it's all black now, no biggie.

Hopefully more to show later.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, September 05, 2017 12:49 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

 

 
DasBeav

I will just stick to playing CoD, MoH, Halo, and a little Madden. Going online with WoW and WoT and getting called a "Noob" by a 12 year old would be soul crushing.

Returning hijacked thread back to you, Mr. Brindos.Smile

 

 

 

 

Too bad he didn't play Delta Force 2 in PC version a good few years ago. The squad I belonged to would send him home crying. LOL!!!

 

Loved Delta Force and also played the heck out of Fighter Ace, which got me building WW2 fighters. Stopped with delta when there were too many cheats running around invisible knifing folks.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 05, 2017 3:56 PM

Looking forward to the photos!

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, September 09, 2017 11:28 PM

Well here's one. It's just a base color, which looked darker indoors. So I'm going to throw some other shades of grey on it. I'm going to try to keep it random and then add some modulation and hope it turns out crazy, but cool.

So here's hoping it turns out.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 11, 2017 12:08 PM

Looks good so far. If you go with washes etc they'll add a little more colour variation to the grey. 

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:04 AM

I'm going to add a black oil wash later. I think it will help unify the overall color tone once I finish painting.

Remember, my goal is to use the grey tones to mimic the black stripes of a Siberian tiger. The color has to be dark but not pure black because the Germans didn't ever use black on their armor. 

This is a challenge to mimic reality with a little fantasy. That's why I think I'm attracted to the idea.

I don't know yet if I'll get it right.

- Mike Brindos

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:46 AM

It looks good, I know it is incorrect, but as a kid, almost all German tank toys and kits were grey, so this looks "right", for lack of a better term!

BTW, the WoW Corrupted Blood incident was 12 years ago today.
http://www.wowhead.com/news=271722/this-week-in-wow-history-chris-metzen-retires-zulgurub-opens-corrupted-blood-inc#comments

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Posted by ManCityFan on Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:25 PM

Looks good so far.  As long as your son thinks it looks cool, you will have done a fine job.  I'm sure you will pull this off.

D

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:35 PM

I think I know what I'm doing lol. But for the effect I'm going to try it has to be darker.

12 years already?! I never got past level 16 back then. The barrens was a war zone! Lol!

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:37 PM

ManCityFan

Looks good so far.  As long as your son thinks it looks cool, you will have done a fine job.  I'm sure you will pull this off.

D

 

im sure he'll like it, it's his idea lol. Thanks for the confidence boost!  :D

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:24 PM

My crazy modulation doesn't look bad at all. I've just sprayed a coat of Testors dull cote in preparation of adding the black oil wash. That should darken it up really well. :)

Any thoughts? Questions? :)

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:17 PM

I like it- looks pretty darn good! Yes

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:46 PM

Thanks Gamera! I like it so far.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, September 18, 2017 7:57 AM

I thinned some artists oil paint with Testors enamel thinner and it ate into and crinkled the paint a bit. I think it will actually work with the effects I'm trying to reproduce so I'm actually okay with that.

I'll get some pictures up later. I haven't taken any yet and the thinner need a lot of time to evaporate before I can do anything with the oil anyways.

I'm kinda excited to see how this effect turns out. :)

Pictures and progress report to come. ;)

 

Edit: I forgot to mention that I applied the oil wash over a flat coat. For those of you who don't know that means the oil wash won't completely buff out of the paint. Leaving the tones much darker than the original color. If I had used the wash over a gloss coat the wash would pretty much just wipe off without affecting the original color much, but staying in the cracks and crevices.

Since I want this color close to black, but not black, I used the dull coat so much of the color will change to a darker almost black but still show my color variances underneath.

I could also have used a black filter to almost the same effect, but them a pin wash would've been necessary to fill in the cracks, crevices, and recesses.

So the choices I've made should land me in the same area with one application instead of two. The crinkled paint should also lend me an extra effect, that is if it doesn't settle back down without issues. 

I guess I'll know once I get home from work tonight. :)

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 18, 2017 11:33 AM

Mike: Did you put an acrylic down before the oils/enamel? It should have protected the paint from the crinkling effect. In any case looking forward to seeing the photos when you get more done with her. 

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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