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Putting a tank in your tiger; Turrets syndrome

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Putting a tank in your tiger; Turrets syndrome
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 3:36 AM
Well, ladies and gentlemen, the quest continues..

Its been quiet on the Western front, almost too quiet. But we have been able to progress on the big cat.

For once things are looking up. So far I haven't gone and done something to completely ruin a perfectly good kit, but don't worry, there's still plenty of time to live up to my reputation.

To progress on the whole I needed to get the interiour of the turret done. I started by sitting at my desk sulking with my face in my hands crying. When I snapped out if it, I tastefully decorated the interiour with 'Ammocans by Chris (tm)', then waved my airbrush manacingly at it. I shamefully coated everything with tamiya's German grey. I have no regrets. Once that stopped evaporating solvents, I added a little salt here and there. No pepper. Once that had set I accosted the turret with some Tamiya flat white. I am not sorry. After that appeared dry, I rubbed off the salt and admired my handywork. I then painted the various bit 'n bobs (tm) dotted around the turret with Tamiya field grey, (which looks oddly green to me, but hey, what do I know?) and some flat black where applicable. Once that was done doing the drying boogie, I gave it a black oil wash and drybrushed with titanium white oil on the black bits and deep naples yellow oil on the green (sod it, its green to me, no matter what anyone says..). The oil gave me a much nicer drybrush than any acryllic or enamel ever could have. I still have no regrets. The rust was next. I have no idea whether it rusts or not in there, but I can imagine it can get pretty damp and moist in there, so I dotted tiny amounts of burnt sienna oils on various exposed grey bits and used a brush moist with turpentine to spread and blend the rust. I generally brushed from top to bottom once, which gave me good results. After all that commotion I decided to cover all my hard work with pastel dust. I used a mixture of dark brown, black and white on the breech, and a mixture of brown and yellow on the rest of the interiour.

I'm happy..

here are the pics:







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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 4:23 AM
Looking really, really good! More please!

Is it the Academy Kit?

I agree, Field Grey is as green as grass.

Matt
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 4:25 AM
No! Its the Italeri kit..

Couldn't afford the Academy kit, so I bought the Academy kits value in AM bits. Makes sense, eh?
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  • From: Dahlonega, Georgia
Posted by lizardqing on Monday, March 22, 2004 4:29 AM
As I said before Micheal looks great. Glad "my" new line of ammo cans worked out, they should be hitting the shelves in all the LHS sometime soon. Big Smile [:D] Look forward to seeing something under the turret.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 4:33 AM
All I have to do is live with the fact that I'll never ever see it after the turret roof gets attached.. Sigh [sigh]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 6:19 AM
Not only does war belong in a museum, so does that piece! Looks like it was salvaged from a Russian Steppe in '46. First reaction was of course, 'I hope he does put the roof on'. I'm sighing right along with you. Great Job.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 6:24 AM
Looking good, Michael!

Can't wait to see the rest of this beast Tongue [:P]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 6:36 AM
Forgot a piccy:

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Posted by wildwilliam on Monday, March 22, 2004 6:49 AM
Michael,
Beautiful! amazing work.

i had a scary moment when i looked at the first picture.
i am so used to looking 'up' into the turret from the bottom, w/ the turret top on,
that i thought that's what i was looking at. which would mean all of the rust was going 'up' instead of down.
but fortunately, i was confused!

it really is a shame to cover this up.
great job!

ed.
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, March 22, 2004 8:48 AM
Looks great!
Just leave the hatches open, and you'll be able to see plenty.

Anybody climbing into that rusty kitty better get a tetanus shot first!
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 9:20 AM
Looks great Michael! More! More!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 4:04 PM
Thanks for the kind words all.. Fingers crossed I don't stuff the rest up.
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  • From: Ft. Sill, OK
Posted by beav on Monday, March 22, 2004 4:40 PM
well, if you can do that, make a complete alternate turret top-out of plexiglass, add in some lights, and wire it all up!, then you can see your work or show it off!, or you can have the top removable

"First to Fire!"

Steven

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 5:22 PM
ooooooooooo
ahhhhhhhh
lookin good!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 5:42 PM
Very nice stuff!! I love the weathering. Just curious as to which AM bits you are using. Very nice though.
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Posted by RAF120 on Monday, March 22, 2004 5:46 PM
Michael That looks awesome. I like the rust and the salt thing, I'm going to try that some where.
Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?
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  • From: Southern Maine
Posted by spector822002 on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:02 AM
Yea that really is kool , it does look like the interior of an old combat weary tiger1 . The rust streaks are a very nice touch!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:18 AM
Once again, thanks for the kind words all.

Edog, the after market bits are the Aber detail and fender sets for the Italeri Tiger E/H1 and a Jordi Rubio barrel. The interiour has only a smattering of spare parts, kit parts and some sprue. The gun sight is a pair sprue lengths, a 1:72 german towing clasp and a section of PE fret. No real AM bits there, just a nifty paint job, which is easier than it looks.
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  • From: Kent, England
Posted by nmayhew on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:20 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ShermanFirefly

ooooooooooo
ahhhhhhhh
lookin good!


Laugh [(-D]
...and my sentiments exactly!!
great looking interior!Cool [8D]
regards,
nick
Kind regards, Nicholas
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Posted by shermanfreak on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:53 AM
Very nice Michael.
You have used that salt technique in ways that I never even considered. You have made that interior look exceptional !!!
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:30 AM
What is the preferred type of salt? Regular table salt, sea salt, Kosher or a mix? Epsom salts, perhaps?

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:32 AM
Just table salt, Subfixer.. Allegedly popcorn salt for smaller scales works good too..

Thanks for the kind words, Robert. Though credit where credit's due, Chris (Lizardqing2) enspired me to use the salt technique again after seeing his Marder III.
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  • From: Kent, England
Posted by nmayhew on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by subfixer

What is the preferred type of salt? Regular table salt, sea salt, Kosher or a mix? Epsom salts, perhaps?


ok, on a serious note regarding types of salt (Laugh [(-D]), i used large crystal sea salt - the type you put in the big salt/pepper mill type thingies - on my p-40 for the pearl harbour group build (wingy thingy[:0]) and whilst the results were good, they could have been improved by using a finer grain salt.
i would suggest therefore, regular table salt.
regards,
nick
ps i can't believe i just wrote that!! sounds more like a cooking forum!!Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]
Kind regards, Nicholas
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Posted by spector822002 on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:36 PM
Ok sorry to be a complete bonehead here , but what does the salt do ? Add texture? Just wondering , I have myself learned a trick or 2 from LQ2 he finds some pretty crafty stuff !Cool [8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:40 PM
Oh so nice!!! Looks great man.... Hope to see the rest of the kitty soon...
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:44 PM
Its one of the best methods to weather paint, Spector822002.. First you lay down a base coat of (in this case) German grey. If you were doing a, for example, Japanese WWII aircraft, you would be using aluminium... After the base coat is dry you then use a little water to attch plain table salt to the area's you want to have weathered paint. This would be walkways, hand grabs.. Basically everywhere the vehicle is manhandled or subjected to abuse in general. Once the salt had had time to dry, you then add the top coat of colour. This is in my tigers turret white. After this is dry, rub off the salt, slightly using it as an abrasive. This way you'll end up removing realistic chunks of paint very easily.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:47 PM
Thanks EX18B.. And congrats on the retirement! Thanks for keeping the world safe for almost as long as I've been alive.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 5:54 AM
Fantastic job on the interior although..................................................Would there have been so much rust?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:28 AM
No idea.. I'm guessing that it would end up pretty damp in there with five guys sweating it out in combat and condensation forming overnight... Doesn't really matter.. I think it looks good.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:59 AM
Hey michael,

I am stealing your rust idea. What an easy way of applying it! I think it looks right, too.

Matt
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