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another rarity
Posted by rudedog on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 2:48 PM

Once agin I'm in search of a hard to find kit. This one is a G-506 WWII Chevrolet 1&1/2 ton 4&4 . It's basically the same as a Duece & a half, minus one rear axle. I do remember seeing a resin kit of one about 15-20 years ago,But can't recall he Mfgr. I wish I'd have grabbed it. From what I've read, it was used mostly by he Navy & both Stateside & the Pacific.If anyone has an Idea [ or even has one,complete & unbuilt ] where to look,I'd be thankful.No luck on-line or e-bay. Thank You. keith R.

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Posted by Moparlover64 on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 4:21 PM

www.kitformservices.com they've got a lot of military models

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 5:06 PM

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 7:26 PM

or are you thinking of this kit?

 

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:24 PM

stikpusher

or are you thinking of this kit?

 

 

  

 

Nope, those are all 1 1/2 ton Dodge 6x6 trucks (G507).

He is talking about the 1 1/2 ton 4x4 Chevy truck, G506.  It was basically a CCKW 353 (G508) 2 1/2 ton 6x6 truck with a shorter bed and single rear axle.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:31 PM

That's a new type to me... I was only aware of the Dodge 1 1/2 ton type... Nice to learn something new. I wonder how hard it would be to take a standard Deuce and cut it down to this 1 1/2 ton type... 

 

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Posted by T26E4 on Wednesday, September 20, 2017 9:59 PM

Doable. Rear drive wheels would have to go from 8 to 4. SOme changes to interior -- also sides above the fenders are different. I've built a wood-slatted cargo compartment before out of lots of Evergreen. The recommended donor kit would be the Italeri/Testors GMC Water truck (because it has the right cab).  

You'd want to download this too: https://archive.org/details/TM9-805

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, September 23, 2017 11:33 PM

If I recall rightly, the 353s were largely AAF mounts.

USN typically used IH & Ford.

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Posted by Moparlover64 on Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:36 AM

The army also used 70's Powerwagon pickups usually in motor pools engineer units along with Chevy blazers CUKV for hauling gear and usually the NCOs claimed them and put the rest if us. In deuce and halfs 5ton dumps and 916s that was the 80's

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, September 24, 2017 5:29 PM

Moparlover64
The army also used 70's Powerwagon pickups usually in motor pools engineer units along with Chevy blazers CUKV for hauling gear and usually the NCOs claimed them and put the rest if us. In deuce and halfs 5ton dumps and 916s that was the 80's

Yes, they were  known as a CUCV (Civilian Utility Cargo Vehicle).  The Dodges were first generation and the Chevys were the second generation CUCV.  They were used as off the shelf, cheap intrum vehicles to fill the hole when M151A2 1/4 tons were used up and the HMMWV wasn't fielded yet.

M882 Dodge

M1008 Chevy

M1009 Chevy Blazer

 

Both the M1008 and M1009 CUCVs are available in 1/35 as resin kits from MiniMan Factory.

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, September 24, 2017 7:15 PM

HeavyArty

Yes, they were  known as a CUCV (Civilian Utility Cargo Vehicle).  The Dodges were first generation and the Chevys were the second generation CUCV.  They were used as off the shelf, cheap intrum vehicles to fill the hole when M151A2 1/4 tons were used up and the HMMWV wasn't fielded yet.

CUCV stood for Commercial Utility Cargo Vehicle, not Civilian.

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Posted by ridleusmc on Monday, September 25, 2017 10:53 PM

What? 

No Fords?  

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Posted by Lodni Kranazon on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 2:30 AM
Maybe this is what you are searching for? https://www.scalemates.com/kits/948407-masters-productions-35013-chevy-4x4-1-1-2-ton-cargo-truck

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:54 AM

ridleusmc

What? 

No Fords?  

 

Ford made like a quarter million WW2 Jeeps. Ford designed and made the "Jeep" of the 1960s-80s, the M151/A1/A2, which was also produced by Willys as well.

http://fordmotorhistory.com/factories/richmond/ford_jeeps.php

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 11:04 AM

Why didn't the Pentagon just keep buying Mutts?

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 12:15 PM

Rollover risk at high speeds, not suitable for highway use, but great for the field. The CUCVs were useful for guard units traveling between armories and military bases. They were configured into ambulances, maintenance contact trucks, signal huts. Jeeps were more of a front line field use vehicle.

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, October 06, 2017 7:16 PM

HeavyArty

 

 
Moparlover64
The army also used 70's Powerwagon pickups usually in motor pools engineer units along with Chevy blazers CUKV for hauling gear and usually the NCOs claimed them and put the rest if us. In deuce and halfs 5ton dumps and 916s that was the 80's

 

Yes, they were  known as a CUCV (Civilian Utility Cargo Vehicle).  The Dodges were first generation and the Chevys were the second generation CUCV.  They were used as off the shelf, cheap intrum vehicles to fill the hole when M151A2 1/4 tons were used up and the HMMWV wasn't fielded yet.

M882 Dodge

M1008 Chevy

M1009 Chevy Blazer

 

Both the M1008 and M1009 CUCVs are available in 1/35 as resin kits from MiniMan Factory.

 

 

Yes and no. Originally the army was looking for replacements from the fleet of 1 1/2 ton vehicles which had died out of the system. They were working on a replacement and with Chrysler geting bankrupcy bail out it was decided to buy the M880 series of trucks hopefully solving two problems.

They were M880s were DOGS. No power, very bad gas mileage and poor quality. Once all the emission controls were removed from the gas engine, nothing functioned properly. They fit a need but their poor construction lead to their demise. As such they were replaced by the Chevy version M1008/M1009.

Initially the M880s and then the M1008/9 were issued to front line units but were not army capable off road vehicles. Soon the ultimate replacement arrived as the M998 HMMWV. The HMMWV replace the M1008/9 in front line units. It also replaced the M151 A1/2 and a host of other vehicles like the Gamma Goat.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, October 07, 2017 9:10 PM

GMorrison
Why didn't the Pentagon just keep buying Mutts?

GMorrison
Why didn't the Pentagon just keep buying Mutts?


Previous "jeeps" had relatively solid axels on traditional semi-eliptical springs.  You could drive those pretty hard on road or off, the vehicle generally had enough "feel" to tell you when you were getting into trouble,

The MUTT series introduced "A" frame semi-independant suspension.  This gave a very good ride on or off road.  However, there were a number of incidents where tire blowouts at highways speeds caused ugly rolllovers at speed. 

Radius arms were added bac from the ends of the suspension arms to the frame, but that never really fixed the rollover problem.  (Neither did stenciling "MAX SPEED 45 MPH" on the dash--after all every 19y/o Sp/4 is invincible.)

Military also determined that 1/4 ton of off-road capacity really wasn't enough anymore.  So, that put a kibosh on that size of vehicle.

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